My PCI side project is half way finished...

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Meltdown
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I'm waiting on a BST 64PL Morgan right now and there is a local PNNA show coming up next weekend where I hope to find one or two more...



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  • TennesseeDave
    TennesseeDave Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I love the toning produced by those holders.

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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great project!
    It would be fun to do this with SEGS too.

    (That PCI box is rare too.)

  • seanq
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    What is the theme of the side project, simply a type set in the old PCI holders or something more specific? Asking because I know I have a few of those laying around and would love to contribute.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • Meltdown
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    @seanq said:
    What is the theme of the side project, simply a type set in the old PCI holders or something more specific? Asking because I know I have a few of those laying around and would love to contribute.

    Sean Reynolds

    Not much. Just coins that appeal to me and accurately graded... Color from the old holders is a plus too...

  • MrEureka
    MrEureka Posts: 24,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Those PCI holders were originally designed, produced and used by Hallmark. Hallmark, for those who don’t know it, was a completely legitimate grading firm, formed by Lee Bellisario and a handful of prominent partners, including QDB. Unfortunately, they got no support in the marketplace and quickly failed. Which I mention because I’m imagining what would have happened if Hallmark had gotten traction, slabbed millions of coins, and then had this same issue with the coins toning in the holders. :o

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  • MEJ7070
    MEJ7070 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @TennesseeDave said:
    I love the toning produced by those holders.

    Yeah either those holders produce some wicked toning or someone had no respect for Ricko’s idea of “100% White”

  • Project Numismatics
    Project Numismatics Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I’ve had some where the toning went from attractive to terminal - just kept getting darker and darker. Curious what others’ experience has been?

  • RedRocket
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    @MrEureka said:
    Those PCI holders were originally designed, produced and used by Hallmark. Hallmark, for those who don’t know it, was a completely legitimate grading firm, formed by Lee Bellisario and a handful of prominent partners, including QDB. Unfortunately, they got no support in the marketplace and quickly failed. Which I mention because I’m imagining what would have happened if Hallmark had gotten traction, slabbed millions of coins, and then had this same issue with the coins toning in the holders. :o

    This is an interesting observation.
    I've seen many Hallmark slabs and none (of what I have witnessed) had the coins tone the way PCI coins do and did.
    I don't suppose it is the inserts or the slab itself?

  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Connecticoin
    Connecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice Franklin! As much as it is cool to keep them in the old PCI holder, I would be tempted to get it into a PCGS holder to stop the toning from going terminal.

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  • hummingbird_coins
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    @Connecticoin said:
    Nice Franklin! As much as it is cool to keep them in the old PCI holder, I would be tempted to get it into a PCGS holder to stop the toning from going terminal.

    I would be worried that it would receive a QC designation.

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  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The slabs themselves are in great shape, which is nice to see.

    Either you selected them that way, or the slabs are harder/more scratch resistant, or they were handled less often being a "lesser" brand.

    PCI was going out on a limb with the "100% White" designation on the SE. 😆

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very impressive

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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @JBK said:

    PCI was going out on a limb with the "100% White" designation on the SE. 😆

    I'm sure it was white when PCI received it for grading.

  • JBK
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    @RedRocket said:

    @JBK said:

    PCI was going out on a limb with the "100% White" designation on the SE. 😆

    I'm sure it was white when PCI received it for grading.

    Yes, I'm sure it was. But putting that in the label is tempting fate, between toning and milk spots.

  • RedRocket
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    @JBK said:

    @RedRocket said:

    @JBK said:

    PCI was going out on a limb with the "100% White" designation on the SE. 😆

    I'm sure it was white when PCI received it for grading.

    Yes, I'm sure it was. But putting that in the label is tempting fate, between toning and milk spots.

    Agree.
    I suppose it is one reason why NGC abandoned doing so early on with their "W" designation.

  • Meltdown
    Meltdown Posts: 9,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2026 5:12AM
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    I found a few more this weekend to add to the box project.
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  • coinkat
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    PCI did grade some World Coins back in the day that had a blue around the top section of the slab that identifies the coin and grade. I suspect these older holders are much tougher to find than the more typical US PCI slabs.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • RedRocket
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    @coinkat said:
    PCI did grade some World Coins back in the day that had a blue around the top section of the slab that identifies the coin and grade. I suspect these older holders are much tougher to find than the more typical US PCI slabs.

    And the "signed" signature slabs (autopen) of Rick Tomaska and Statton are also of a better collectability.

  • Meltdown
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    @RedRocket said:

    @coinkat said:
    PCI did grade some World Coins back in the day that had a blue around the top section of the slab that identifies the coin and grade. I suspect these older holders are much tougher to find than the more typical US PCI slabs.

    And the "signed" signature slabs (autopen) of Rick Tomaska and Statton are also of a better collectability.

    better for who?

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