They’re garbanzo beans. I’ll sell common date MS70 ASEs for the same as raw Eagles. Still a hard sell. They take up too much room for serious stackers.
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@DesertCoin said:
They’re garbanzo beans. I’ll sell common date MS70 ASEs for the same as raw Eagles. Still a hard sell. They take up too much room for serious stackers.
Just curious. Do you buy at the same price, regardless whether the common date ASE is slabbed or raw?
@pmh1nic said:
Few stackers are going to pay extra for a slabbed bullion coin.
NEW stackers will for the reasons I previosly pointed out
I've been involved in numismatics and stacking for over 25 years. Any new stacker that spends a minimum amount of time getting educated on stacking will NOT pay a premium for slabbed bullion coins. A very simple Google search on the subject will recommend not buying slabbed bullion coins...
"Most silver stackers should avoid buying slabbed (graded) bullion coins, as the high premiums for third-party grading (like NGC or PCGS) negate the goal of acquiring the maximum silver weight for the lowest cost."
Again, buy from a reputable dealer and have some idea of how to test bullion coins. The grades 70, 69, 68 on a slab mean nothing to a stacker with minimal knowledge of efficient stacking. The only silver stacker that buys graded coins is an uneducated stacker.
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If that was entirely true, there wouldn't be a premium for any common Silver Eagles compared to other forms of 999 silver.
But people do pay a little higher prices for silver in certain forms, and "slabbed" bullion is one of those forms.
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Please provide one date and grade where a slabbed bullion coin is sold at a consistent premium.
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I just looked on eBay to see what ordinary 2026 Silver Eagles are selling for.
Two of the links did not work. The one that did work was for a proof coin. Stackers aren't stacking proof coins.
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Two of the links did not work. The one that did work was for a proof coin. Stackers aren't stacking proof coins.
Search on eBay in the Coins & Paper Money category (Show only "Sold Items") using this:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The results of that search will show all the recently-sold 2026 Silver Eagle listings that are not graded 69 or 70. You have to scroll through the results and ignore some listings and note the sales prices for ordinary singles. Most recent sales are about $80 to $95.
This search will show recent sales of MS69 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS69
Recent sales are about $85 to $105.
This search will show recent sales of MS70 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS70
Recent sales are about $110 to $125.
@DesertCoin said:
They’re garbanzo beans. I’ll sell common date MS70 ASEs for the same as raw Eagles. Still a hard sell. They take up too much room for serious stackers.
Just curious. Do you buy at the same price, regardless whether the common date ASE is slabbed or raw?
Yes. Buy and sell. I do not have time, space, or energy to try and sell them for more on eBay. After fees the extra premium is not worth messing with when I can sell them out the door at the same price as unslabbed.
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@DesertCoin said:
They’re garbanzo beans. I’ll sell common date MS70 ASEs for the same as raw Eagles. Still a hard sell. They take up too much room for serious stackers.
Gold bullion is where certfication/grade make a big difference
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Two of the links did not work. The one that did work was for a proof coin. Stackers aren't stacking proof coins.
Search on eBay in the Coins & Paper Money category (Show only "Sold Items") using this:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The results of that search will show all the recently-sold 2026 Silver Eagle listings that are not graded 69 or 70. You have to scroll through the results and ignore some listings and note the sales prices for ordinary singles. Most recent sales are about $80 to $95.
This search will show recent sales of MS69 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS69
Recent sales are about $85 to $105.
This search will show recent sales of MS70 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS70
Recent sales are about $110 to $125.
Did as you said and what came up were proof coins sold for $200 to over $500. I VERY seriously doubt this are coins purchased for part of a stack.
What is precious metal stacking...
"Precious metal stacking is the systematic, long-term accumulation of physical precious metals—primarily silver or gold coins, bars, and rounds—to build wealth, hedge against inflation, and diversify portfolios. Unlike collecting, stacking focuses on acquiring the highest metal weight for the lowest cost, rather than numismatic..."
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metalquality metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
fixed it for ya
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Two of the links did not work. The one that did work was for a proof coin. Stackers aren't stacking proof coins.
Search on eBay in the Coins & Paper Money category (Show only "Sold Items") using this:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The results of that search will show all the recently-sold 2026 Silver Eagle listings that are not graded 69 or 70. You have to scroll through the results and ignore some listings and note the sales prices for ordinary singles. Most recent sales are about $80 to $95.
This search will show recent sales of MS69 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS69
Recent sales are about $85 to $105.
This search will show recent sales of MS70 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS70
Recent sales are about $110 to $125.
Did as you said and what came up were proof coins sold for $200 to over $500. I VERY seriously doubt this are coins purchased for part of a stack.
What is precious metal stacking...
"Precious metal stacking is the systematic, long-term accumulation of physical precious metals—primarily silver or gold coins, bars, and rounds—to build wealth, hedge against inflation, and diversify portfolios. Unlike collecting, stacking focuses on acquiring the highest metal weight for the lowest cost, rather than numismatic..."
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
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You must not have done the search correctly.
If you do this search, listings with MS69, MS70, PR69, and/or PR70 in the title will NOT show up in the results:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The minus sign ("-") preceeding a term will exclude listings that have that term in the title.
I did that same search just now and there were only a few graded coins (proof or otherwise) in the search results.
Some sellers use "PF" or "Proof" instead of "PR". So this search is even more exclusive:
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metalquality metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metalquality metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
fixed it for ya
You didn't fix it, you compounded an error by repeating the misguided error that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan.
Does quality matter? Yes. That means coins in BU condition not slabbed. No informed stacker is going to pay an extra $100+ ($500 is insane) if their intent is to get the most metal for their dollar. Yes, you want BU coins that aren't marred but you can easily do that buying from a good dealer without paying the extra cost of slabbing a coin. Any 65 or 66 coin is going to get you as much as a slabbed 69 or 70 in the stacking community. Folks paying those prices aren't either paying that extra $100+ aren't doing it for stacking purchases. If they are they are foolish when it comes to the purpose of stacking. I have tubes full of coins that would probably grade 69, maybe some 70, that were purchase at spot plus a few dollars.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
Two of the links did not work. The one that did work was for a proof coin. Stackers aren't stacking proof coins.
Search on eBay in the Coins & Paper Money category (Show only "Sold Items") using this:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The results of that search will show all the recently-sold 2026 Silver Eagle listings that are not graded 69 or 70. You have to scroll through the results and ignore some listings and note the sales prices for ordinary singles. Most recent sales are about $80 to $95.
This search will show recent sales of MS69 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS69
Recent sales are about $85 to $105.
This search will show recent sales of MS70 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS70
Recent sales are about $110 to $125.
Did as you said and what came up were proof coins sold for $200 to over $500. I VERY seriously doubt this are coins purchased for part of a stack.
What is precious metal stacking...
"Precious metal stacking is the systematic, long-term accumulation of physical precious metals—primarily silver or gold coins, bars, and rounds—to build wealth, hedge against inflation, and diversify portfolios. Unlike collecting, stacking focuses on acquiring the highest metal weight for the lowest cost, rather than numismatic..."
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
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You must not have done the search correctly.
If you do this search, listings with MS69, MS70, PR69, and/or PR70 in the title will NOT show up in the results:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The minus sign ("-") preceeding a term will exclude listings that have that term in the title.
I did that same search just now and there were only a few graded coins (proof or otherwise) in the search results.
Some sellers use "PF" or "Proof" instead of "PR". So this search is even more exclusive:
What was the range of prices sold did you found for those 69 ~ 70 coins slabbed coins?
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
I just check MS-70's slabbed coins sold since the start of the month. The prices were $108 to $133 for slabbed MS-70 coins. Spot has been around $73 ~ $78 over that time period. SD Bullion is selling BU 2026 ASE's for $90. Hero Bullion is selling them for $84. In my mind it's crazy to buy a slabbed MS-70 coins for $108 when you can get a close to perfect coin for $84.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
You didn't fix it, you compounded an error by repeating the misguided error that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan.
Please, show where I said "that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan." You must have attended the Redneck school of misquoting others.
Does quality matter? Yes. That means coins in BU condition not slabbed. No informed stacker is going to pay an extra $100+ ($500 is insane) if their intent is to get the most metal for their dollar. Yes, you want BU coins that aren't marred but you can easily do that buying from a good dealer without paying the extra cost of slabbing a coin. Any 65 or 66 coin is going to get you as much as a slabbed 69 or 70 in the stacking community. Folks paying those prices aren't either paying that extra $100+ aren't doing it for stacking purchases. If they are they are foolish when it comes to the purpose of stacking. I have tubes full of coins that would probably grade 69, maybe some 70, that were purchase at spot plus a few dollars.
You know, there are also stackers that are willing to pay a small premium for a chunk of gold that has been certified to actually be gold. Not only do they seek the peace of mind, they know that they can sell that piece of mind upon resell. Hop on ebay and list a raw ounce gold eagle and another in an MS69 slab for a small premium and see which one sells first. I know, I have been doing it for twenty years.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
You know, there are also stackers that are willing to pay a small premium for a chunk of gold that has been certified to actually be gold.
Your comment reminds of a post I made a year or two ago. There is a company (link here) that authenticates and slabs bullion coins. They also grade the coins on a 10-point scale. I guess there is enough demand for this service to keep them in business.
I've never seen one of their slabbed products, but I just glanced at their website and see that they plan to be at the FUN show in Florida. If someone on this thread attends FUN and sees their product, maybe they can comment here on their impressions.
You didn't fix it, you compounded an error by repeating the misguided error that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan.
Please, show where I said "that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan." You must have attended the Redneck school of misquoting others.
Does quality matter? Yes. That means coins in BU condition not slabbed. No informed stacker is going to pay an extra $100+ ($500 is insane) if their intent is to get the most metal for their dollar. Yes, you want BU coins that aren't marred but you can easily do that buying from a good dealer without paying the extra cost of slabbing a coin. Any 65 or 66 coin is going to get you as much as a slabbed 69 or 70 in the stacking community. Folks paying those prices aren't either paying that extra $100+ aren't doing it for stacking purchases. If they are they are foolish when it comes to the purpose of stacking. I have tubes full of coins that would probably grade 69, maybe some 70, that were purchase at spot plus a few dollars.
You know, there are also stackers that are willing to pay a small premium for a chunk of gold that has been certified to actually be gold. Not only do they seek the peace of mind, they know that they can sell that piece of mind upon resell. Hop on ebay and list a raw ounce gold eagle and another in an MS69 slab for a small premium and see which one sells first. I know, I have been doing it for twenty years.
"list a raw ounce gold eagle and another in an MS69 slab for a small premium"
I think gold is in a different category. Spending 3% to get a $5,000 bullion gold coin authenticate is much wiser than spending 50% ~ $100 to get a silver bullion going validated.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
We had this same debate a decade ago where folk were paying 25-50% (or higher) premiums. Some said only fools would pay premiums for common stuff and they were fervently rebutted by others. Seems markets have a way of getting the final rebuttal.
@RedneckHB said:
We had this same debate a decade ago where folk were paying 25-50% (or higher) premiums. Some said only fools would pay premiums for common stuff and they were fervently rebutted by others. Seems markets have a way of getting the final rebuttal.
premiums for raw bullion are not the topic of the tread and are different than those for authenticated bullion
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
You didn't fix it, you compounded an error by repeating the misguided error that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan.
Please, show where I said "that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan." You must have attended the Redneck school of misquoting others.
Does quality matter? Yes. That means coins in BU condition not slabbed. No informed stacker is going to pay an extra $100+ ($500 is insane) if their intent is to get the most metal for their dollar. Yes, you want BU coins that aren't marred but you can easily do that buying from a good dealer without paying the extra cost of slabbing a coin. Any 65 or 66 coin is going to get you as much as a slabbed 69 or 70 in the stacking community. Folks paying those prices aren't either paying that extra $100+ aren't doing it for stacking purchases. If they are they are foolish when it comes to the purpose of stacking. I have tubes full of coins that would probably grade 69, maybe some 70, that were purchase at spot plus a few dollars.
You know, there are also stackers that are willing to pay a small premium for a chunk of gold that has been certified to actually be gold. Not only do they seek the peace of mind, they know that they can sell that piece of mind upon resell. Hop on ebay and list a raw ounce gold eagle and another in an MS69 slab for a small premium and see which one sells first. I know, I have been doing it for twenty years.
Let's not conflate stacking silver with stacking gold. Even if I stacked slabbed gold (I don't) it would make more sense to pay what would be a small premium to get a one ounce GAE slabbed versus a one ounce SAE. The slab fee for a SAE is a significant portion of it's value versus a GAE.
The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice is it possible for an empire to rise without His aid? Benjamin Franklin
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They’re garbanzo beans. I’ll sell common date MS70 ASEs for the same as raw Eagles. Still a hard sell. They take up too much room for serious stackers.
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Just curious. Do you buy at the same price, regardless whether the common date ASE is slabbed or raw?
Two of the links did not work. The one that did work was for a proof coin. Stackers aren't stacking proof coins.
Search on eBay in the Coins & Paper Money category (Show only "Sold Items") using this:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The results of that search will show all the recently-sold 2026 Silver Eagle listings that are not graded 69 or 70. You have to scroll through the results and ignore some listings and note the sales prices for ordinary singles. Most recent sales are about $80 to $95.
This search will show recent sales of MS69 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS69
Recent sales are about $85 to $105.
This search will show recent sales of MS70 graded Silver Eagles:
2026 Silver Eagle MS70
Recent sales are about $110 to $125.
Yes. Buy and sell. I do not have time, space, or energy to try and sell them for more on eBay. After fees the extra premium is not worth messing with when I can sell them out the door at the same price as unslabbed.
“Land of the free because of the brave”
“Saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone”
In Deo solo confidimus
Member since 2026
Successful BST transactions with: Ted 1, JWP, bigjpst, Vetter, nickelsciolist,
Gold bullion is where certfication/grade make a big difference
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Did as you said and what came up were proof coins sold for $200 to over $500. I VERY seriously doubt this are coins purchased for part of a stack.
What is precious metal stacking...
"Precious metal stacking is the systematic, long-term accumulation of physical precious metals—primarily silver or gold coins, bars, and rounds—to build wealth, hedge against inflation, and diversify portfolios. Unlike collecting, stacking focuses on acquiring the highest metal weight for the lowest cost, rather than numismatic..."
Folks can stack whatever they want but the traditional means of stacking is getting the most metal for the lowest cost. You don't do that by paying $200 ~ $500 of slabbed proof coins.
fixed it for ya
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
.
You must not have done the search correctly.
If you do this search, listings with MS69, MS70, PR69, and/or PR70 in the title will NOT show up in the results:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70
The minus sign ("-") preceeding a term will exclude listings that have that term in the title.
I did that same search just now and there were only a few graded coins (proof or otherwise) in the search results.
Some sellers use "PF" or "Proof" instead of "PR". So this search is even more exclusive:
2026 Silver Eagle -MS69 -MS70 -PR69 -PR70 -PF69 -PF70 -proof
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You didn't fix it, you compounded an error by repeating the misguided error that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan.
Does quality matter? Yes. That means coins in BU condition not slabbed. No informed stacker is going to pay an extra $100+ ($500 is insane) if their intent is to get the most metal for their dollar. Yes, you want BU coins that aren't marred but you can easily do that buying from a good dealer without paying the extra cost of slabbing a coin. Any 65 or 66 coin is going to get you as much as a slabbed 69 or 70 in the stacking community. Folks paying those prices aren't either paying that extra $100+ aren't doing it for stacking purchases. If they are they are foolish when it comes to the purpose of stacking. I have tubes full of coins that would probably grade 69, maybe some 70, that were purchase at spot plus a few dollars.
What was the range of prices sold did you found for those 69 ~ 70 coins slabbed coins?
I just check MS-70's slabbed coins sold since the start of the month. The prices were $108 to $133 for slabbed MS-70 coins. Spot has been around $73 ~ $78 over that time period. SD Bullion is selling BU 2026 ASE's for $90. Hero Bullion is selling them for $84. In my mind it's crazy to buy a slabbed MS-70 coins for $108 when you can get a close to perfect coin for $84.
Please, show where I said "that buying slabbed coins for double, triple or more of spot is a wise stacking plan." You must have attended the Redneck school of misquoting others.
You know, there are also stackers that are willing to pay a small premium for a chunk of gold that has been certified to actually be gold. Not only do they seek the peace of mind, they know that they can sell that piece of mind upon resell. Hop on ebay and list a raw ounce gold eagle and another in an MS69 slab for a small premium and see which one sells first. I know, I have been doing it for twenty years.
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Your comment reminds of a post I made a year or two ago. There is a company (link here) that authenticates and slabs bullion coins. They also grade the coins on a 10-point scale. I guess there is enough demand for this service to keep them in business.
I've never seen one of their slabbed products, but I just glanced at their website and see that they plan to be at the FUN show in Florida. If someone on this thread attends FUN and sees their product, maybe they can comment here on their impressions.
"list a raw ounce gold eagle and another in an MS69 slab for a small premium"
I think gold is in a different category. Spending 3% to get a $5,000 bullion gold coin authenticate is much wiser than spending 50% ~ $100 to get a silver bullion going validated.
We had this same debate a decade ago where folk were paying 25-50% (or higher) premiums. Some said only fools would pay premiums for common stuff and they were fervently rebutted by others. Seems markets have a way of getting the final rebuttal.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
premiums for raw bullion are not the topic of the tread and are different than those for authenticated bullion
When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.
Let's not conflate stacking silver with stacking gold. Even if I stacked slabbed gold (I don't) it would make more sense to pay what would be a small premium to get a one ounce GAE slabbed versus a one ounce SAE. The slab fee for a SAE is a significant portion of it's value versus a GAE.