GTG Lincoln cents: 1909s vdb, 1914d, and 1922 no d
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I just picked up a Lincoln cent collection through a trade and my plan is to sell them.
The collection included the following with what I think could be the grades in ( ).
1909s vdb (vf35?)
1914d (f15?)
1922 no d weak reverse (G4)
I think the 1909s vdb and the 1914d should be graded. Do you agree?
Would you get any of these graded?
What grade would you give?
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1909s vdb
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1914d
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1922 no d weak reverse
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I'd say your grades for the '09S and '14D are accurate. Maybe up a notch on the '09.
I think slabbing them isn't necessary [depending on your target audience]: I would prefer these coins raw.
The reverse of the 14-D [rim at 8 o'clock] appears odd [looks silvery].
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I think you are close if not correct.
The weak 1922 reverse is difficult to grade (perhaps that fits into Mark's thread on "hardest coin to grade".
IMO I think these coins should always be graded even if details because there's so much doubt around legitimacy.
And Im someone who gets really grouchy about how everyone wants to slab everything these days.
SVDB-VF
14D-F
22noD-G
You should get them graded if wanting to sell. Authenticity needs to be established. I think they are all genuine but you are looking at wanting $1500 or more total for these three pieces so spending 10% of that amount for authentication/encapsulation is a wise thing to do imo. Absorb the cost of certification into your sell prices and you should be just fine moneywise.
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I don’t mean to rain on your parade, but for some reason the S mintmark on the 1909 S VDB, looks a little off to me. Does anyone else think so? In my experience, the S is more compressed down. The one that is shown is spread open and I’m not so sure it is not a counterfeit piece. While I’m no expert, it just doesn’t have the correct shape or look to an original piece. Anyone else notice this too or am I way off base?
I think it's Position #3 with the S about halfway under the 0 in the date...
https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/5217/Counterfeit-1909-S-VDB-Lincoln-Cents/
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My grades:
09 - VF20 maybe 25
14D - F15
22 - G04 maybe 06
I would have the 09 and 14D graded/certified, I have not been following these, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong; but I do not think PCGS will certify the weak reverse 22 no D coins any longer. If I am correct there is no point in sending that coin in.
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The 1922 is Die Pair #3, which comes in both a “Faint D” and a “No D” state. It may be too worn to say which it is. See my book.
This reverse is the most heavily worn reverse in the 1922 Cent universe. Even on Mint State coins the reverse has the detail of a Fair-2 coin. The coins must be graded from the obverse, which is at least a VG with a shot at Fine.
No need to slab, they’re all good as posted. Proceed with sale or trade if that be your intention.
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Agree with Henway, the 22 looks like a 10 or 12 to me. PCGS would probably certify it as #3110 (Weak D), but if you can wait, they may re-vamp the varieties to reflect the DeLorey book.
No comment on the grades, as I agree with what has already been stated, but does anyone else see the heart shape around the date on the 14-D, or is it just me and my 56 year old eyes?
Me, I would probably opt to get these graded for authentication purposes (I prefer raw).
I believe this is incorrect, here is an excerpt from an old post in 2019 when PCGS eliminated the weak D designation.
"The following is what I was told about this variety on February 09, 2019: "Our policy on this variety is now as follows: We will grade no “new” coins this designation (or PCGS spec number) but will honor the designation on all existing coins in PCGS holders."
Here is a link to the thread where this was posted.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1014831/ok-heather-why-was-the-1922-no-d-weak-reverse-deleted-from-the-lincoln-sets/p1
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I believe PCGS eliminated the 1922 No D, Weak Reverse (#2540), which they now lump into the "Weak D" category (#3110), which is exactly what Heather said in the thread you linked. I actually had one graded last November under the Weak D (#3110) category.