Bulls waive Jaden Ivey after remark about NBA's pride month
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The Chicago Bulls have waived guard Jaden Ivey following videos he posted where his rant about religion and other topics led to him calling out the NBA for celebrating Pride Month.
The Bulls announced the move on Monday, saying it was due to conduct detrimental to the team.
Ivey’s video calling out the league was posted on Monday morning, as he said it was "unrighteousness" that the NBA would celebrate Pride Month.
Ivey has been posting similar videos with rants in recent weeks, while the 24-year-old has noted in the past he deals with depression.
"The world can proclaim LGBTQ, right?" Ivey said in his latest video. "They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA. They proclaim it. They show it to the world. They say, ‘Come join us for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness.’ They proclaim it. They proclaim it on the billboards. They proclaim in the streets. Unrighteousness. So, how is it that one can’t speak righteousness? Who are they to say that this man is crazy?"
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@coolstanley
what are your personal thoughts?
What happened to free speech and religious freedom.
You can do and say what you like but when you try to force it upon someone then there is problems.
Sports leagues/teams should stick to sports. It is unfortunate this young man got waived for expressing his right to free speech. As pdoidoi said above when professional sports organizations try to force feed people ideas they may not believe in in a religious or moral context you will have problems. I hope this young man lands on his feet with another team.
Seems to me only that the kid needs some help quick for his depression, is it diagnosed?
I'm sure what the league and the Bulls did to him did not help one bit but may have really added to his depression.
Nothing happened to them. Both concepts apply only to the government. The Bulls are completely within their rights to get rid of somebody they deem to be a negative.
He trashed his team, the league and the support which is offered for those people who wish to accept it. The NBA and the Bulls didn't do anything out of the ordinary other than being aware of a person who allowed his personal beliefs to interfere with his professional commitment.
Other athletes have come out in support of Jaden Ivey
Treyvehon Henderson sent a Bible verse, among others.
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If the Bulls don't want Christians on the team, then there shouldn't be any Christians in the stands. The Bulls should get sued into oblivion. So much for freedom of religion and freedom of speech! This is a clear case of religious discrimination by the NBA and the Chicago Bulls.
It happened to Tim Tebow. The NFL and the public treated him like a pariah for his public profession of faith.
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Would they have acted the same way if he was a muslim ?
I doubt it very much.
They brought him in and literally warned their own media that Ivey would "preach" during interviews. Ivey would ask Bulls reporters if they "fornicated before marriage" - but they kept him around. It's just nonsense to think they "don't want Christians on the team".
For what, exactly? Can you cite a law or violation of his contract?
Did somebody stop Ivey from saying what he wanted? Is he being stopped from exercising his religion?
Please explain how.
Ah yes, noted pariah Tim Tebow who was signed by FIVE different NFL teams. Sure, he was blocked from the NFL because of his faith, not his 47% completion percentage and unwillingness to change positions.
Maybe Christians are just tired of people trying to throw their beliefs down their throats. The Bulls might be getting sued for violating his first amendment rights. Its not like he gave these statements on their dime. He said those things during his free time(unlike Kaepernick).
NBA is a league of intolerance and hate. The players' union should be on this crap. The NBA will suspend or fire someone for criticizing the Communist Chinese. The union won't seek up about the Ivey situation because they're run by communists who hate religion... and won't speak up on behalf of those who criticize the Communist Chinese... because the union knows that Communist Chinese money is very important to the players' wealth.
Covid , liquor stores OPEN .
Churches CLOSED .
It's gonna slowly get worse .
But we already know this .
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When in Rome…
I value my time here too much to weigh in on politics (though I certainly would like to)
that being said, as far as athletes and politics go, shut up and dribble. that goes for actors/actresses/musicians/artists etc. I do not care what they "stand" for. I am only interested in them for the entertainment they provide.
to add, we do have free speech here in America. however, that speech does not always come without consequences. You are free to libel or slander someone, but you will pay in civil court. you are free to scream fire in a crowded theatre (that is not on fire), but you may/will face legal consequences if anyone gets hurt or killed because of it. You are free to express your political/religious thoughts and feelings in a public way while at work, but you may just get fired because of it.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I read once about WW 2. There was a cited phrase in a story "Loose Lips Sink Ships". In this case the "ship" may be your job may apply.
I have no problem with anyone believing in what they believe in, everyone has a right to like or dislike anything when it comes to social, political and religious matters however when your at work or are representing a team that your under contract for its best to keep your mouth shut.
Politics and religion don't have any place in sports the way I see it, including these idiots that thank Jesus for having a good game or winning because Jesus most likely does not care about outcomes in sporting events
"most likely"
We should most likely be grateful to not be engaged in this discussion while sharing space on a commercial flight.
Why
shades open or shades closed?
Why do you think a private organization has any obligation in regard to the First Amendment? Do you know what the 1st even says?
Being a Christian - including one that insults the faith of his mother and under which he was raised - isn't a free pass to be a jerk. Or someone that lies to his employer:
Ivey told the Bulls that Jesus had healed his knee and was ready to return. The Bulls gave him an MRI, found his knee was nowhere near healed, and shut him down for the year.
I agree, but this seems to not apply to players who have liberal views. Lebron always gets to say what he wants politically. Or coaches like Gregg Popovich and Steve Kerr. Not a word from teams, or the league whenever they spout their rhetoric.
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what precious ignorance.
In other words, you have nothing insightful to add, like always.
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"You can't teach a rock how to dance."
Spencer Hawes. Opposed the North Carolina transgender bathroom bill, supported Trump, not a word from the NBA.
Says the simple bot.
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Didn't hear bout that one. But that's like a 90-10 issue in his favor...so
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I think Vrabel said it best when responding to a question about what Henderson said about Ivey's stupidity. Henderson also being an absolute moron wanted to come out and support him and Vrabel... New England's answer to what a Dad should look like and say... encouraged education. Even Vrabel gets it.
Clearly his appeal to populism fell flat, leaving him vulnerable to consequences.
Apparently, Barkley was vocal and upset about it.
Llamas and alpacas are camels. They aren't like camels, or related. They are camels. When was anyone going to tell me this?! How long had Bill Nye been holding out on us?
What exact reason was given for him to be let go???
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
the NBA fan/viewership breakdown currently has:
42% identify as Democrats
45% as Independent
10% as Republican
These numbers are estimates, but it does align with well-documented reasons such as:
I would expect the NBA to bias towards more social inclusivity. As the NBA is structured a a joint-venture partnership with the member teams it would be expected, and required, for member teams to operate in the collective best financial interest of the league as a whole.
So when there's a player on a team who's making statements which might offend a disproportionate number of your fans and they don't offset that negative value in other ways... the outcome appears as expected.
And he took a shot at MJ so.. like... know your role...
Explains why the NBA don't have a heterosexual night
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"conduct detrimental to the team"
Jaden Ivey will receive full salary after being waived by Bulls: Sources - The Athletic https://share.google/c85npV4Z9rNr39nXo
This hurts the Bulls more than Ivey, the kid is going to get paid and not have to be there for anything
His agent will get him to apologize in the off season so he can get on with another team I'm sure.
AKA "I don't like your example disproving my false statement".
What did you prove? He retired almost 10 years ago.
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"conduct detrimental to the team" > @coolstanley said:
They said nothing to him. MJ is famously conservative - nobody says anything to him.
Bottom line: Ivey was a turd to be around and the Bulls got tired of him. Not his religion. You think he's the only Christian on their roster?
People shouldn't get fired for preaching the Bible in THEIR free time. Christian persecution at its finest.
I'm sure if Ivey was a Muslim, he wouldn't had got let go.
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Alas, he didn't confine it to his free time. He also lied to his employer about his health, which you continue to ignore.
This is awesome. More please.
Turbulence.
I 100% support you but I feel like you need to stand up and do something about this.
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You mean they're gonna suck even more than they have all season?
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Maybe he will get lucky and get a team that supports him for his rights and not to go against his beliefs.
Would it be a different story with the Bulls or NBA if he was or is muslim.
😂😂😂
Even more so when your job is a heavily public one.
when you are a public figure, you dont get the luxury of "free" time. just part of what Jayden signed up for when he put his name on that $10,100,000.00 contract.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Not if it don't meet the narrative.
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Aren’t you supposed to turn the other cheek or something? I don’t recall any verses in Proverbs about whining on a Sports forum.