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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, how about we throw half dime a bone to prove us wrong...

    Look! A real photograph of a real coin taken at the P-Mint!

    Treasurer and acting Director McNally leaving their mark on the $50k Omega last cent struck...
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  • CM1CM1 Posts: 41 ✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:
    As a photographer, it is my opinion that those images are rendered by a computer. No cameras were involved in their creation.

    but if you had the 1804 coin in hand, do you think you could capture images close to the rendering ? I think you could.
    it would be fun trying anyway.

  • CM1CM1 Posts: 41 ✭✭✭

    in my opinion those images are probably rendered. just my opinion. but I see marks inside the rim and reflections on the stars. I guess that doesn’t mean much these days.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CM1 said:

    in my opinion those images are probably rendered. just my opinion. but I see marks inside the rim and reflections on the stars. I guess that doesn’t mean much these days.

    @CM1 said:

    in my opinion those images are probably rendered. just my opinion. but I see marks inside the rim and reflections on the stars. I guess that doesn’t mean much these days.

    That image is a computer generated/rendered image.

    It is like night and day vs a genuine photo of a gold coin.
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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rc5280 said:
    Well, how about we throw half dime a bone to prove us wrong...

    Look! A real photograph of a real coin taken at the P-Mint!

    Treasurer and acting Director McNally leaving their mark on the $50k Omega last cent struck...
    .

    Robots

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CM1 said:

    @FlyingAl said:
    As a photographer, it is my opinion that those images are rendered by a computer. No cameras were involved in their creation.

    but if you had the 1804 coin in hand, do you think you could capture images close to the rendering ? I think you could.
    it would be fun trying anyway.

    No. I don’t think they would even get close to the renderings.

  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭✭

    The mint should stop using AI and go back to charicatures, like they did with George H W Bush and Ronald Reagan

    “When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
  • CM1CM1 Posts: 41 ✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2026 5:31PM

    I’m not sure if the 1804 images were taken with a camera or not. but since I don’t have an 1804 right now to photograph I decided to see if I can get close to the USM 2025 Buffalo image (rendering) . my photo looks bad but wanted to see if I could get close. of course the shadows, colors etc.. are not a match.

    USM rendering

    mine

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CM1 said:
    I’m not sure if the 1804 images were taken with a camera or not. but since I don’t have an 1804 right now to photograph I decided to see if I can get close to the USM 2025 Buffalo image (rendering) . my photo looks bad but wanted to see if I could get close. of course the shadows, colors etc.. are not a match.

    USM rendering

    mine



    Pretty close

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can hardly wait - get them in graded holders / CACG, PCGS.

    Investor
  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CM1 said:

    USM rendering

    mine


    If yours was posted on the mint website a couple of posters would swear that it is not a photograph. Well done!

    There are product photos that look suspiciously like photographs as well.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the 2026 SemiQ Proof Gold Buffalo "Mint Picture" Hahaha...

    They really nailed this one, everything is so realistic lol...
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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CM1 said:

    in my opinion those images are probably rendered. just my opinion. but I see marks inside the rim and reflections on the stars. I guess that doesn’t mean much these days.

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    In my opinion, that is an actual photograph of an actual (physical) coin.

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2026 4:53AM

    I just went to the US Mint web site.
    The very first product I looked at (chosen at random), is a real photo of an actual coin.
    The image was likely "photo-shopped" to some extent. But note the tiny irregularities at the inside edge of the rim (see arrows, and right-click on the image to "Open Image in New Tab" and then view that new tab to see at full resolution):

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Rc5280 said:
    "Nobody here has claimed every mint product is photographed for what is posted on the sales website, only that some are."

    If memory serves, you claimed that some images are based on a photograph with no supporting evidence.

    I have claimed that all images are not based on a photo, but instead rendered artificially, and I don't have supporting evidence either.

    However, If you take a closer look, scale a rendered image(some are off) vs a real photo or an in-hand product, or perhaps even use some common sense, maybe you'll reconsider?

    You seem to be the one making a mountain/hill to die on while simultaneously digging a hole to fall into.

    But I could be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time :)

    Agree. No one has yet found a SINGLE example of a real photograph and I've looked at well over 100 of them.

    And I slightly resent the implication, not from you, that I've provided no evidence for my assertion. I've provided over 100 examples of renderings and have found no actual photos. Yet I'm told that my assertion has no evidence while the counter- assertion requires only a SINGLE example, and no one has found one. It is the counter- assertion that has zero evidence.

    It would be very hard to definitively prove there are no photographs without reviewing all of them. Why Mr. Nickel has found none is either laziness or proof that photographs are a scarce as actual Bigfoot creatures.

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    I believe you are wrong.
    There are multiple actual photographs of current US Mint products on their web site.
    See my prior post, above.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Rc5280 said:
    "Nobody here has claimed every mint product is photographed for what is posted on the sales website, only that some are."

    If memory serves, you claimed that some images are based on a photograph with no supporting evidence.

    I have claimed that all images are not based on a photo, but instead rendered artificially, and I don't have supporting evidence either.

    However, If you take a closer look, scale a rendered image(some are off) vs a real photo or an in-hand product, or perhaps even use some common sense, maybe you'll reconsider?

    You seem to be the one making a mountain/hill to die on while simultaneously digging a hole to fall into.

    But I could be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time :)

    Agree. No one has yet found a SINGLE example of a real photograph and I've looked at well over 100 of them.

    And I slightly resent the implication, not from you, that I've provided no evidence for my assertion. I've provided over 100 examples of renderings and have found no actual photos. Yet I'm told that my assertion has no evidence while the counter- assertion requires only a SINGLE example, and no one has found one. It is the counter- assertion that has zero evidence.

    It would be very hard to definitively prove there are no photographs without reviewing all of them. Why Mr. Nickel has found none is either laziness or proof that photographs are a scarce as actual Bigfoot creatures.

    .

    I believe you are wrong.
    There are multiple actual photographs of current US Mint products on their web site.
    See my prior post, above.

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    Possible, but I don't think it's definitive. The supposition is reasonable. However, I went back to done purely AI renderings I did as jokes, and they do have random defects.




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  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If all the pictures on the mint website are faked, then why haven't they put up the fake pictures for the comic coins, the peace dollars, the morgan dollars, and all the commemoratives? Or are they waiting to strike some before actually photographing them?

  • MrBearMrBear Posts: 404 ✭✭✭

    @HalfDime said:
    If all the pictures on the mint website are faked, then why haven't they put up the fake pictures for the comic coins, the peace dollars, the morgan dollars, and all the commemoratives? Or are they waiting to strike some before actually photographing them?

    I’d guess it’s either because Marketing hasnt been given the models yet, or they don’t want to put some of the later items on the website until it gets closer to “go time”

    Occasionally successful coin collector.

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