"ATTENTION" Unopened Mint Roll Collectors Of The 2000-P Sacagawea Dollars
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Not just mint rolls. DUNBAR, LOOMIS or any other after market rolls with all BU's inside like these. Why you're not opening them I don't know.
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Get your glasses or loupes. If your rolls have obverse enders, look for this pimple die marker. If it's there, it's a wounded/speared eagle.
Why would you look for that rather than at the eagles?
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I have more questions. First, and foremost, what is the point?
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People collect these unopened rolls without opening them. If it's a rev. on the ender, look at the eagle. If it's an obv. on the end, look for this die marker.........it's a speared eagle.
Why would the whole roll be speared eagles? What if there's just one and it's in the middle?
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You don't want to sell an unopened mint roll of 2000-P's Sacagawea Dollars on eBay for 40 or 50 bucks of their are speared eagles inside.
See my previous post. What if there is only one and it's in the middle?
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I'm not saying the whole roll would be speared eagles. If there's one in the middle, you wouldn't know until you opened it.
That's why I say open them up. But there are collectors out there that just keep them unopened.
EDIT: Also if there is one in the middle, that coin could easily be a 66 or 67. If so, that's a $400, $500 or $600 roll you have there.
"Why would the Speared Eagle need to be on the ends or in the middle? What if it was the second, or even the third coin in. Then what would you do?"
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Please show us where he stated that the whole roll would be speared eagles.
He's simply giving an obverse die diagnostic.
So, if someone is going to take your advice and “open them up”, back to my original question - why look for a little pimple than at the eagle?
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Since you asked, he wrote:
" You don't want to sell an unopened mint roll of 2000-P's Sacagawea Dollars on eBay for 40 or 50 bucks of their are speared eagles inside." (Sic)
If you were opening the rolls, you wouldn't be selling unopened rolls. And if you opened the roll, the speared eagle would be easier to see than the small dot. The diagnostic is useless for the coins "inside".
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That's why I started this thread. As I mentioned, there are people that don't open them up. This obv. die marker is an indicator (without opening it up), telling you the obv. ender is or isn't a speared eagle and what "might" be inside.
EDIT: I don't know, I could be wrong but I don't believe I've ever heard of this 2000-P Speared Eagle die marker mentioned before. I've looked at all me speared eagles, they all have it.
Like the die marker on the obv. of all the enhanced tail feather Cheerios dollars.
It is often asked:
"How many Cheerios 2000 dollars have been located out of rolls?"
Although Red is referred to as a "Forum Coin Prophet" by many members here, he mildly disagrees yet is flattered by this assessment. His answer to the above question is:
"None."
I'll open my rolls someday...maybe when I retire.
I'm going to be a little upset if I've been sitting on a mule, but if I'm recently retired then the timing will be great.
...c'mon, there's a chance!
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Sure enough, the raised dot is there.
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Thanks for sharing the die characteristic on the obverse of the wounded eagle. It’s nice to learn
other pick up points on varieties. Not that I’ve ever searched for that one. I’m more of a cheerio guy.
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He wrote from the point of view of a roll collector. You don’t open your rolls. Thanks for the diagnostic.
At least one actually.
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What’s die marker is on the Cheerios dollar out of curiosity?
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Red strongly and uniquivitably disagrees.
https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/collector-finds-three-sacagawea-cheerios-dollars.html
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What is`a speared eagle coin worth in average unc grade ?
Two sold recently on eBay for under $25.00, I did’t look at shipping.
Die marker, originally identified by @CaptHenway , is pictured here.
LINK
Slabbed 64s are $150 to make $200 for a PCGS 64
Edited to add: it's an interesting question how much money one loses by opening the rolls given that lose coins are basically face value.
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Not a roll question, but a sealed Cheerios coin(s) question...
Does anyone know any die markers for the 2000 P Wide AM cent?
There was talk in a thread some time ago about trying to get a double attribution of a Cheerios Cent/Wide AM.
I don't remember anyone ever posting one that got the double attribution.
I remember someone mentioning there is a die marker on the obverse for the 2000 P Wide AM
I've got some packaged Cheerios cents to check if anyone knows what that die marker is.
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Probably $35.00 in this case—
I found two PCGS MS64 speared eagle sacs without any designation on the holder once.
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Thanks for sharing!
That's a quarter roll
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Well, that's a different matter altogether. Congrats
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@DesertCoin
You stated "located in rolls"
This collector located two in boxes and a single example in circulation (not in a roll):
"Joppa, Maryland, collector Cliff Long told Coin World that he had the unparalleled luck of finding three of the Cheerios dollars, two during the 2000 promotional period and one recently from general circulation."
If you are going to correct RED you should do so with a bit of accuracy and truth telling.
Disappointed with DC,
Red
Paid $45.00, if he found nada, worth ten. (Unless he sells single quarters).
I just searched a box of cents that I should have sold on eBay for at least $50.00. I found naught. That exercise cost me at least $25.00 and you .002¢ dividend payment.
Stupid waste of a thread...
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“While en route to Newark International Airport in New Jersey to board their flight to Spain, Cliff decided to stop at a local bank to pick up two more rolls of small dollars. In one of those rolls, he discovered his third Cheerios dollar. ANACS has authenticated and graded that example About Uncirculated 55.”
If you are going to correct Desert Coin you should do so with a greater level of accuracy and only after having read the whole article.
Severely disappointed with RR,
DC
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I kind of agree, OP was telegraphic and posters didn’t read carefully.
Red is turning Red.
Although Red is about to tell you that he meant mint-wrapped rolls.
Aside from Red saving Red's face, were any ever found in mint-wrapped rolls?
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He should never have opened a quarter roll looking for a speared eagle dollar.
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Red apologizes to @DesertCoin
Desert Coin was correct and RED was most definitely wrong.
I should have "red" the complete article and thus wouldn't have been so certain in my (proven now to be incorrect) position.
Red will seek penance from Desert Coin and will not be so hasty to correct him or anyone else on the boards.
A lesson learned and one not to be forgotten.
Sincerely,
R. Rocket
Not to my knowledge. However it’s not impossible. And there may well be less well publicized examples of roll funds that I didn’t find in a quick google search.
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Apologies accepted.
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It is my understanding that not all dollars found in Cheerios boxes had the pattern reverse, so the new/standard reverse was already appearing at that early date. Therefore, I'd be surprised if any pattern reverse dollars were left at the mint to go into rolls if they didn't even have enough to fill the Cheerios contract.
First thing I think of doing when on my way to the airport to fly overseas is pick up rolls of $1 coins to search.:)
“While en route to Newark International Airport in New Jersey to board their flight to Spain, Cliff decided to stop at a local bank to pick up two more rolls of small dollars. "
.> @vintagebanks said:
You want to have as much metal as possible at the airport.
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The trip had been funded by the sale of a Cheerios dollar
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Correct, although the theory is that the non-pattern reverses were sent later as replacements for defective coins/packaging.
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Should be looking for the spear, not the marker. The marker might indicate that the variety is there, or that could be a marker that was on a working die -- So that other non-variety coins also have the marker. It would seem to be incumbent on a person to open the roll to verify.
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