Here’s one that came to mind for me yesterday: business strike/circulation strike
I'm not saying you're wrong, but to me there is maybe a subtle difference.
I think of "business strike" as sort of a method of manufacture for things like mint sets, blue pack Ikes, etc. which were not intended for circulation.
But of course it can also be used for circulation coins. But I'm not sure I'd use "circulation strike" for mint sets or uncirculated Ikes.
Minor point, if at all.
I think that’s a good point and I like that distinction.
I use circulation strike for "mint sets". It's modifying the type of strike not the purpose of the coin. Otherwise, medals, NCLT, bullion etc aren't circulation strikes and, in the case of medals they aren't business strikes either. It ends up being very restrictive and also makes it seem like there are two different methods for producing mint set coins and bags and rolls of the same coin.
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@ProofCollection said:
1. Rub/weaar
2. Original/Toned (although I will argue that the original mint surfaces did not have toning so it is a bit of a misnomer).
Ever hear of secondary toning? That's not original.
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To describe words appearing on a coin: Legend / Inscription. Though there is a technical distinction here: "legends" go around the edge of a coin, while "inscriptions" go across it. Thus, on the obverse of a Lincoln cent, "In God we trust" is a legend, while "Liberty" is an inscription.
Milling / Reeding: the vertical stripes placed evenly on a coin's edge, historically to prevent clipping.
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If those grades are used interchangeably, I’ll gladly sell you a huge quantity of AU58 coins for (below) MS62 prices. Yes, some AU58’s are worth MS62 money but the two grades are used distinctly, not interchangeably.
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If those grades are used interchangeably, I’ll gladly sell you a huge quantity of AU58 coins for (below) MS62 prices. Yes, some AU58’s are worth MS62 money but the two grades are used distinctly, not interchangeably.
You should send those AU58s in for grading. I don't see enough MS62s to satisfy my demand for them.
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If those grades are used interchangeably, I’ll gladly sell you a huge quantity of AU58 coins for (below) MS62 prices. Yes, some AU58’s are worth MS62 money but the two grades are used distinctly, not interchangeably.
I think he's saying that many 62s have a little rub and are therefore technically 58s.
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If those grades are used interchangeably, I’ll gladly sell you a huge quantity of AU58 coins for (below) MS62 prices. Yes, some AU58’s are worth MS62 money but the two grades are used distinctly, not interchangeably.
I think he's saying that many 62s have a little rub and are therefore technically 58s.
Even if so, it’s beside the point and doesn’t make the two grades interchangeable.
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Okay 👌 Fair enough 😉
How about skin?
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Closer, but while others might disagree, I still don’t think so. “Skin” can be smooth, but “crust” can’t. 😉
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And Blank
How about Surface/Skin
Blank/Planchet Two completely different things but people interchange them.
Buffalo/Indian Head
Winged Liberty/Mercury
Corrosion/ED
Machine Doubling/ Mechanical Doubling
"minor abrasion visible only with strong magnification"/gash
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There’s always a surface but the same can’t be said for a skin.
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Rub/Cabinet Friction. Maybe?
These aren't actually identical
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Dark side/ foreign
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As is FDC (Fleur de coin)
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I use circulation strike for "mint sets". It's modifying the type of strike not the purpose of the coin. Otherwise, medals, NCLT, bullion etc aren't circulation strikes and, in the case of medals they aren't business strikes either. It ends up being very restrictive and also makes it seem like there are two different methods for producing mint set coins and bags and rolls of the same coin.
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"A favorite here….cent/penny…"
A "cent is a base 10" (American)
"A penny is a base 12" (British)
yes/No?
Countermark / counterpunch / counterstamp (nouns, verbs, adjectives) are interchanged inaccurately in some descriptions.
From the 1970s:
“Average Circulated” / AG
yes and no
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And sometimes pup (pick up point)
I think so.
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Raw / uncertified/ unslabbed / ungraded
Certified / slabbed / graded
You, sir, are absolutely correct.
When I read the OP, I saw the 'interchangeable' part. But, I missed the 'mean (exactly) the same thing' part.
Thanks for the 'clarification/correction'.
Also "contemporary" and "bogus"
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Box/Opium Dollar
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PQ / all the money.
Cull / junk box.
Gem BU / 65
Junk silver / melting pot recruits
Brilliant white / super PQ
Rainbow toner / auc high
Spotted cull / low end
Wash / Washington qtr
Display of Gem Franks / BU Franklin Half Roll
Keeper Coin / sell only if get all the money
Tarnished / toner
Spurious...
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Full steps, head, bell lines, torch, bands and others/FULL STRIKE! When will they learn?
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Ever hear of secondary toning? That's not original.
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MS62/AU58.
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To describe words appearing on a coin: Legend / Inscription. Though there is a technical distinction here: "legends" go around the edge of a coin, while "inscriptions" go across it. Thus, on the obverse of a Lincoln cent, "In God we trust" is a legend, while "Liberty" is an inscription.
Milling / Reeding: the vertical stripes placed evenly on a coin's edge, historically to prevent clipping.
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Apparently I have been awarded the DPOTD twice.
^^^ I didn’t know that. It seems like something we should have learned in scouting.
If those grades are used interchangeably, I’ll gladly sell you a huge quantity of AU58 coins for (below) MS62 prices. Yes, some AU58’s are worth MS62 money but the two grades are used distinctly, not interchangeably.
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Circulated (circulation) /wild
You should send those AU58s in for grading. I don't see enough MS62s to satisfy my demand for them.
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I think he's saying that many 62s have a little rub and are therefore technically 58s.
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Even if so, it’s beside the point and doesn’t make the two grades interchangeable.
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BU rub/MS 62
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Statue of Liberty.......
Crown/Tiara
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I mistook that dot for a star when I first saw it.
slicker/PO 1
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That ain’t no battle. ^^^
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specimen/example
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quarter (dollar)/two bits
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20 cent piece/double dime
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Mercury/ Winged Liberty Head
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