@tradedollarnut said:
“Grading and judging the three coins in my OP, based by the images provided by Heritage -- although high quality -- is futile unless you actually have the coins in hand.”
Not if you know what you’re looking for - they aren’t proofs where hairlines are paramount and impossible to evaluate from an image
Ok. Pick three other similar coins in the same holder/grade from the same era. One no sticker, one with green and one with gold - but don’t show which is which. Let us try to rank them
@tradedollarnut said:
Ok. Pick three other similar coins in the same holder/grade from the same era. One no sticker, one with green and one with gold - but don’t show which is which. Let us try to rank them
With stickers, the holder generation shouldn't matter, assuming the unstickered one isn't selected because it is a mistake. The auction dates need to be close to each other to keep photo quality similar.
Okay, this should be interesting. I'm going to present you with two sets of Buffalo nickels in two different posts. Guess the grade and which one has no sticker, which one has a green sticker, and which one has a gold sticker. If someone can correctly do this by these online images, I'll be very impressed. I would fail.
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The wild card here is the unstickered coin. Did it fail or was a sticker never attempted?
For the 38-Ds, I like the second one best. The first one is lit too low. It exaggerates the marks that weren't struck out of the planchet, but if I'm counting marks, I still think it has the most. The third one is nice, but has a big spot at 1:00, so I'll say it didn't sticker at 66, the first one got a green sticker, and the second one a gold sticker.
For the 31-Ss, the second one has the best strike. It has spots, but they're pretty minor and probably OK for a sticker below MS65, so I'll say it's 64 with a green sticker. I'll give the bottom one with the most flash a gold sticker and the top one no sticker.
I agree with @Catbert and TDN. I don’t need to see the Coins in hand, but I do need good quality pictures. I can make an accurate evaluation of an MS coin from good pictures. And yes, I have seen Coins with OGH and/or CAC stickers that I did not like. That’s another reason why pictures are imperative.
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@Proofmorgan said:
I know in my mind and I think in the mind of other collectors, any higher end coin without a sticker at a venue or dealer with a reasonable audience, has already been tried. There is just too much money on the table to not send it. Unless, like others have said, it is absolutely fresh.
Personal example:
Purchased a fresh rattler 1798 $5 AU55 from a small estate auction. It brought $42k. I sent to CAC and it was denied. I auctioned it through Stacks at a major sale and it realized $28k. (Buyer dipped it and got it into 61 CAC and sold for $108k….still sour about that)
It’s difficult to compete with the crack out artists who excel in chemistry.
@tradedollarnut and @messydesk, you came close, but it's difficult to do solely with online images.
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First disclaimer: all six of these coins were auctioned through Heritage. So all should have high quality images (just as the three coins in my OP).
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For the 1938-D Buffalo nickels, the order from top to bottom is Gold, Green, no sticker.
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The no sticker coin is one I own. A coin I hadn't sent to CAC since purchased. The "big spot at 1:00" that @messydesk noted is nothing more than a light halo reflection in the image. It doesn't exist on the coin.
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Here are the coins in their holders:
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You were both correct with the 1931-S Buffalo nickels being graded MS64, although one is an MS63 with a Gold sticker, so technically an MS64 or better.
. @tradedollarnut, you were correct that the top coin is the one with a Gold sticker. @messydesk, you were correct that the middle coin is the one with the Green sticker.
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The 1931-S Buffalo nickel has a CAC population of only four Gold stickered coins: an AU58, an MS63, and two MS65's. The top coin in this set is the coin I wrote about in my previous post. It is my coin, an MS63:
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"I can give you a good example. I purchased a better-date MS63 Buffalo nickel in an OGH from Heritage a few years ago. Studying the images online, it looked like a honestly graded, attractive coin, but nothing special. Others viewing and bidding on it must have thought the same because I won it for a really good price. When it arrived in the mail and I had it in hand, I was blown away. The coin was stunningly beautiful! It was the opposite of the stories you hear about online dating, where in the online photo the person is gorgeous, but when seen in person, he or she is just average. I later submitted this Buffalo nickel to CAC for stickering and it was given a gold sticker. So CAC thought the same as me when they had the coin in hand."
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The online images do not do this coin justice, which was the point of my earlier post. This coin has iridescent toning in the fields and the luster just pops. Again, the image posted here is the Heritage image from 2019, when the coin was purchased, before I submitted it to CAC and it received a Gold sticker. It's a beauty, which you would never know by the high quality online images.
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Interesting exercise. The reverse might have helped, but the assumption I made was that the obverse reflected the quality of the reverse faithfully and there were no surprises one way or the other on the other side.
Interesting exercise. The reverse might have helped, but the assumption I made was that the obverse reflected the quality of the reverse faithfully and there were no surprises one way or the other on the other side.
The images of the reverses look very much like the obverses -- similar quality images. As I mentioned, all six of these coins were auctioned through Heritage. It's easy to sort by date and grade and even show only those coins with CAC stickers. So you can go to their auction archives to look up the coins and check out the reverses.
@Proofmorgan said:
Purchased a fresh rattler 1798 $5 AU55 from a small estate auction. It brought $42k. I sent to CAC and it was >denied. I auctioned it through Stacks at a major sale and it realized $28k. (Buyer dipped it and got it into 61 CAC >and sold for $108k….still sour about that)
Just curious...how much time elapsed between your original purchase and the sale at Stacks ? And then when re-sold as an MS-61 ?
Going back to my OP about the value of old holders with a CAC gold sticker, this 1936 MS65 Buffalo closed at GC on Sunday.
It sold for $606, with BP. A significant premium over the $60 Greysheet price.
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I believe oldglory and Mark are considering slightly different points. I agree fully (I do a database of all CAC-Gold sold and unsold (eBay) in all denominations, looking for averages, trends, and any justifications for the CAC-Gold prices achieved), with the inferred point of oldglory and the direct point from Mark Yes . . . solid higher grade PCGS coins (without any CAC) DO sell for less than lower-grade CAC-Golds (all other variables being equal).
I am believing oldglory was considering the CAC-Gold pricing bubble . . . and Mark quite cogently proved that quite often, the CAC-Gold premium vastly eclipses what the grade differential might be if we imagine a 1.5 (or 2, or more) point upgrade.
Interesting thoughts from two superb posters . . . . . . . I hope I am not putting words or thoughts into their mouths.
Drunner
(edited to add -- database for 'unsolds' applies to all across the country, not just eBay)
@DRUNNER said:
I believe oldglory and Mark are considering slightly different points. I agree fully (I do a database of all CAC-Gold sold and unsold (eBay) in all denominations, looking for averages, trends, and any justifications for the CAC-Gold prices achieved), with the inferred point of oldglory and the direct point from Mark Yes . . . solid higher grade PCGS coins (without any CAC) DO sell for less than lower-grade CAC-Golds (all other variables being equal).
I am believing oldglory was considering the CAC-Gold pricing bubble . . . and Mark quite cogently proved that quite often, the CAC-Gold premium vastly eclipses what the grade differential might be if we imagine a 1.5 (or 2, or more) point upgrade.
Interesting thoughts from two superb posters . . . . . . . I hope I am not putting words or thoughts into their mouths.
Drunner
(edited to add -- database for 'unsolds' applies to all across the country, not just eBay)
Your absolutely right, and so is Mark, I'm just thinking that I could sell it for $675 probably.
@DRUNNER said:
I believe oldglory and Mark are considering slightly different points. I agree fully (I do a database of all CAC-Gold sold and unsold (eBay) in all denominations, looking for averages, trends, and any justifications for the CAC-Gold prices achieved), with the inferred point of oldglory and the direct point from Mark Yes . . . solid higher grade PCGS coins (without any CAC) DO sell for less than lower-grade CAC-Golds (all other variables being equal).
I am believing oldglory was considering the CAC-Gold pricing bubble . . . and Mark quite cogently proved that quite often, the CAC-Gold premium vastly eclipses what the grade differential might be if we imagine a 1.5 (or 2, or more) point upgrade.
Interesting thoughts from two superb posters . . . . . . . I hope I am not putting words or thoughts into their mouths.
Drunner
(edited to add -- database for 'unsolds' applies to all across the country, not just eBay)
For quite a few years now, I too have been tracking coins with CAC gold stickers when I see them on auction sights: primarily Heritage and GC. CAC gold stikered coins consistently bring a premium. For expensive and rare coins the premium is there, but maybe not much more than a coin graded one or two points higher. But for coins with a value of four figures or less, the premium they bring can be six to ten times over Greysheet. Especially when the coin is encapsulated in an old holder. Hence the reason for my OP
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Here are a couple other examples from past Heritage auctions:
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@bammbamm . . . superb and quite definitive information. I will at some point in the future perhaps start a thread regarding the perceived CAC-Gold premiums. Your very succinct point above on the Heritage auctions drives home some critical info.
Yes 42k to 28k a big loss. Interesting that next guy dipping it then get $108 k (he scored big time).
While I do CACG I discontinued stickered material inventory class awhile back. The op auc (stickered coins) analysis a real good one. My question - can you get that money on the bourse or from your bourse table? Or is your confidence level there for that low? Was the $108k sale auction or private sale?
@DRUNNER said: @bammbamm . . . superb and quite definitive information. I will at some point in the future perhaps start a thread regarding the perceived CAC-Gold premiums. Your very succinct point above on the Heritage auctions drives home some critical info.
Thanks . . . . .
Drunner
Glad I could provide some useful information that helps in your research.
Did anyone consider the possibility that the chronological sequence in which these were sold could have influenced ever-increasing realized values? It would be interesting to repeat the exercise with the coins closing in reverse order during the sale.
@TallahasseeCoinClub said:
Did anyone consider the possibility that the chronological sequence in which these were sold could have influenced ever-increasing realized values? It would be interesting to repeat the exercise with the coins closing in reverse order during the sale.
Is that possible? Yes. Is it likely? No.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Regarding the 38-D Buff and gold CAC stickers, as many know, these are not rare and are made all the time given the extensive mintage. Of the 787 gold stickered buffs in all years/mints, 402 of them (51%) are 38-D not including D/D or D/S varieties. I would wager that great majority of these are in OGH or rattlers.
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@Catbert said:
Regarding the 38-D Buff and gold CAC stickers, as many know, these are not rare and are made all the wtime given the extensive mintage. Of the 787 gold stickered buffs in all years/mints, 402 of them (51%) are 38-D not including D/D or D/S varieties. I would wager that great majority of these are in OGH or rattlers.
While I agree with the point of this post, regretfully, I must take issue with the “all the time” portion of it.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Catbert said:
Regarding the 38-D Buff and gold CAC stickers, as many know, these are not rare and are made all the time given the extensive mintage. Of the 787 gold stickered buffs in all years/mints, 402 of them (51%) are 38-D not including D/D or D/S varieties. I would wager that great majority of these are in OGH or rattlers.
Yes, the 1938-D Buffalo has the highest population of green and gold stickers in the Buffalo series, and yet they still sell for significant premiums over coins without a CAC sticker.
At the end of the day, they are all the same grade of MS66. If I were looking at these three at the auction, I would bid on which one appeals to ME, not the opinion of another. To each their own, but I'll never see the justification in drastic premium.
Same coin with a green sticker means it’s nice but no upgrade probably. Sure, it will fetch a premium over an ordinary 66 due to the old holder and sticker - but as much of a premium? My personal opinion is no on that.
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There is no way I have your ability to grade; however, if I could get a PCGS green sticker into a CACG +, I'd be a happy camper. It's not financial; but, confirming I'm able to pick out really nice coins.
And I don’t necessarily disagree with you all I’m saying is a green sticker on a beautiful old holder coin limits the value in my mind and in many buyers mind
At least a green sticker means it does not have PVC.
It depends on where you are at in the grading scale imo. For classic coins, very few in 66, yet alone in 67, ever receive a gold. Unless previously green beaned in a higher-grade holder.
@Morgan13 said:
I have 2 Morgans in OGH that I would really like to send to CAC I just dont have anyone to submit them for me.
I will eventually find somebody.
I sent four Morgans in OGH's in my most recent submission. Just saw the results: three received green stickers, one failed.
Yeah, you have to submit stickering submissions through an authorized dealer or a Legacy member.
Took me a while to find someone also.
@Morgan13 said:
I have 2 Morgans in OGH that I would really like to send to CAC I just dont have anyone to submit them for me.
I will eventually find somebody.
@Catbert said:
Regarding the 38-D Buff and gold CAC stickers, as many know, these are not rare and are made all the wtime given the extensive mintage. Of the 787 gold stickered buffs in all years/mints, 402 of them (51%) are 38-D not including D/D or D/S varieties. I would wager that great majority of these are in OGH or rattlers.
While I agree with the point of this post, regretfully, I must take issue with the “all the time” portion of it.
Believe it or not, Mark, I thought about editing my post right after it was posted to say “frequently” instead since I knew you’d point it out, but I decided it wasn’t worth the trouble.
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@Catbert said:
Regarding the 38-D Buff and gold CAC stickers, as many know, these are not rare and are made all the wtime given the extensive mintage. Of the 787 gold stickered buffs in all years/mints, 402 of them (51%) are 38-D not including D/D or D/S varieties. I would wager that great majority of these are in OGH or rattlers.
While I agree with the point of this post, regretfully, I must take issue with the “all the time” portion of it.
Believe it or not, Mark, I thought about editing my post right after it was posted to say “frequently” instead since I knew you’d point it out, but I decided it wasn’t worth the trouble.
I believe you. You’re a very brave man for standing pat. 😀
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Did you check the PCGS and NGC sites for any authorized dealers in your area? I’m sure that quite a few of them are also authorized CAC dealers. Perhaps there is one nearby who could assist you.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Did you check the PCGS and NGC sites for any authorized dealers in your area? I’m sure that quite a few of them are also authorized CAC dealers. Perhaps there is one nearby who could assist you.
I will do that Mark. I didnt know there is a list. Ill look it up and see if I can find someone I am comfortable enough to trust.
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Did you check the PCGS and NGC sites for any authorized dealers in your area? I’m sure that quite a few of them are also authorized CAC dealers. Perhaps there is one nearby who could assist you.
I will do that Mark. I didnt know there is a list. Ill look it up and see if I can find someone I am comfortable enough to trust.
Here’s a link for the PCGS list: https://www.pcgs.com/dealers
First, enter your zip code or address into the “Location” box near the top of the page and click on “Search”. The page that comes up has a slide bar which allows you to adjust the number of miles within your area you’d like to search for nearby dealers.
Let me know if you have any questions either here or by private message and I’ll try to help.
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Sorry, I don't agree.
Ok. Pick three other similar coins in the same holder/grade from the same era. One no sticker, one with green and one with gold - but don’t show which is which. Let us try to rank them
With stickers, the holder generation shouldn't matter, assuming the unstickered one isn't selected because it is a mistake. The auction dates need to be close to each other to keep photo quality similar.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Okay, this should be interesting. I'm going to present you with two sets of Buffalo nickels in two different posts. Guess the grade and which one has no sticker, which one has a green sticker, and which one has a gold sticker. If someone can correctly do this by these online images, I'll be very impressed. I would fail.
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And here is the second set:
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Silver is definitely easier than nickel. But I’ll play:
No, gold, green 65
Gold, no, green 64
The wild card here is the unstickered coin. Did it fail or was a sticker never attempted?
For the 38-Ds, I like the second one best. The first one is lit too low. It exaggerates the marks that weren't struck out of the planchet, but if I'm counting marks, I still think it has the most. The third one is nice, but has a big spot at 1:00, so I'll say it didn't sticker at 66, the first one got a green sticker, and the second one a gold sticker.
For the 31-Ss, the second one has the best strike. It has spots, but they're pretty minor and probably OK for a sticker below MS65, so I'll say it's 64 with a green sticker. I'll give the bottom one with the most flash a gold sticker and the top one no sticker.
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The issue with the game is that, especially for low value buffs, the “no sticker” may not have ever been to cac.
I agree with @Catbert and TDN. I don’t need to see the Coins in hand, but I do need good quality pictures. I can make an accurate evaluation of an MS coin from good pictures. And yes, I have seen Coins with OGH and/or CAC stickers that I did not like. That’s another reason why pictures are imperative.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
It’s difficult to compete with the crack out artists who excel in chemistry.
That could most definitely be the case, including with the coin in my OP.
That is definitely an unknown question.
@tradedollarnut and @messydesk, you came close, but it's difficult to do solely with online images.
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First disclaimer: all six of these coins were auctioned through Heritage. So all should have high quality images (just as the three coins in my OP).
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For the 1938-D Buffalo nickels, the order from top to bottom is Gold, Green, no sticker.
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The no sticker coin is one I own. A coin I hadn't sent to CAC since purchased. The "big spot at 1:00" that @messydesk noted is nothing more than a light halo reflection in the image. It doesn't exist on the coin.
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Here are the coins in their holders:
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Seeing both sides would have been helpful. Shrug
You were both correct with the 1931-S Buffalo nickels being graded MS64, although one is an MS63 with a Gold sticker, so technically an MS64 or better.
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@tradedollarnut, you were correct that the top coin is the one with a Gold sticker.
@messydesk, you were correct that the middle coin is the one with the Green sticker.
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The 1931-S Buffalo nickel has a CAC population of only four Gold stickered coins: an AU58, an MS63, and two MS65's. The top coin in this set is the coin I wrote about in my previous post. It is my coin, an MS63:
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"I can give you a good example. I purchased a better-date MS63 Buffalo nickel in an OGH from Heritage a few years ago. Studying the images online, it looked like a honestly graded, attractive coin, but nothing special. Others viewing and bidding on it must have thought the same because I won it for a really good price. When it arrived in the mail and I had it in hand, I was blown away. The coin was stunningly beautiful! It was the opposite of the stories you hear about online dating, where in the online photo the person is gorgeous, but when seen in person, he or she is just average. I later submitted this Buffalo nickel to CAC for stickering and it was given a gold sticker. So CAC thought the same as me when they had the coin in hand."
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The online images do not do this coin justice, which was the point of my earlier post. This coin has iridescent toning in the fields and the luster just pops. Again, the image posted here is the Heritage image from 2019, when the coin was purchased, before I submitted it to CAC and it received a Gold sticker. It's a beauty, which you would never know by the high quality online images.
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Interesting exercise. The reverse might have helped, but the assumption I made was that the obverse reflected the quality of the reverse faithfully and there were no surprises one way or the other on the other side.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
The images of the reverses look very much like the obverses -- similar quality images. As I mentioned, all six of these coins were auctioned through Heritage. It's easy to sort by date and grade and even show only those coins with CAC stickers. So you can go to their auction archives to look up the coins and check out the reverses.
Just curious...how much time elapsed between your original purchase and the sale at Stacks ? And then when re-sold as an MS-61 ?
Going back to my OP about the value of old holders with a CAC gold sticker, this 1936 MS65 Buffalo closed at GC on Sunday.
It sold for $606, with BP. A significant premium over the $60 Greysheet price.
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Seems low to be honest
Micah Langford - https://www.oldglorycoinsandcurrency.com/
Low, based upon what? Are you aware of other sales at significantly higher prices?
The $606 price was higher than what this PCGS MS67 brought:
1936 5C MS67 CACG. Mintage 119,001,420. (PCGS# 3977)
Auction 60473 | Lot: 50088 | Aug 11, 2025
Sold For: $564.00
And more than this CACG MS67 sold for:
936 5C MS67 CACG. Mintage 119,001,420. (PCGS# 3977)
Auction 60473 | Lot: 50088 | Aug 11, 2025
Sold For: $564.00
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I believe oldglory and Mark are considering slightly different points. I agree fully (I do a database of all CAC-Gold sold and unsold (eBay) in all denominations, looking for averages, trends, and any justifications for the CAC-Gold prices achieved), with the inferred point of oldglory and the direct point from Mark Yes . . . solid higher grade PCGS coins (without any CAC) DO sell for less than lower-grade CAC-Golds (all other variables being equal).
I am believing oldglory was considering the CAC-Gold pricing bubble . . . and Mark quite cogently proved that quite often, the CAC-Gold premium vastly eclipses what the grade differential might be if we imagine a 1.5 (or 2, or more) point upgrade.
Interesting thoughts from two superb posters . . . . . . . I hope I am not putting words or thoughts into their mouths.
Drunner
(edited to add -- database for 'unsolds' applies to all across the country, not just eBay)
Your absolutely right, and so is Mark, I'm just thinking that I could sell it for $675 probably.
Micah Langford - https://www.oldglorycoinsandcurrency.com/
For quite a few years now, I too have been tracking coins with CAC gold stickers when I see them on auction sights: primarily Heritage and GC. CAC gold stikered coins consistently bring a premium. For expensive and rare coins the premium is there, but maybe not much more than a coin graded one or two points higher. But for coins with a value of four figures or less, the premium they bring can be six to ten times over Greysheet. Especially when the coin is encapsulated in an old holder. Hence the reason for my OP
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Here are a couple other examples from past Heritage auctions:
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@bammbamm . . . superb and quite definitive information. I will at some point in the future perhaps start a thread regarding the perceived CAC-Gold premiums. Your very succinct point above on the Heritage auctions drives home some critical info.
Thanks . . . . .
Drunner
Yes 42k to 28k a big loss. Interesting that next guy dipping it then get $108 k (he scored big time).
While I do CACG I discontinued stickered material inventory class awhile back. The op auc (stickered coins) analysis a real good one. My question - can you get that money on the bourse or from your bourse table? Or is your confidence level there for that low? Was the $108k sale auction or private sale?
Glad I could provide some useful information that helps in your research.
Did anyone consider the possibility that the chronological sequence in which these were sold could have influenced ever-increasing realized values? It would be interesting to repeat the exercise with the coins closing in reverse order during the sale.
Official PCGS account of:
www.TallahasseeCoinClub.com
@Proofmorgan
Ouch that would keep me up at night. Thats the price of a new car not to mention the hit you took.
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Is that possible? Yes. Is it likely? No.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Regarding the 38-D Buff and gold CAC stickers, as many know, these are not rare and are made all the time given the extensive mintage. Of the 787 gold stickered buffs in all years/mints, 402 of them (51%) are 38-D not including D/D or D/S varieties. I would wager that great majority of these are in OGH or rattlers.
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
While I agree with the point of this post, regretfully, I must take issue with the “all the time” portion of it.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Yes, the 1938-D Buffalo has the highest population of green and gold stickers in the Buffalo series, and yet they still sell for significant premiums over coins without a CAC sticker.
For consistency and simplicity -
I generally refer to CDN CPG for CAC / CACG in developing any auc bidding or offers on that material.
Of course big ticket material where aggressive, rich bidders ymmv.
At the end of the day, they are all the same grade of MS66. If I were looking at these three at the auction, I would bid on which one appeals to ME, not the opinion of another. To each their own, but I'll never see the justification in drastic premium.
At least a green sticker means it does not have PVC.
It depends on where you are at in the grading scale imo. For classic coins, very few in 66, yet alone in 67, ever receive a gold. Unless previously green beaned in a higher-grade holder.
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
I have 2 Morgans in OGH that I would really like to send to CAC I just dont have anyone to submit them for me.
I will eventually find somebody.
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I sent four Morgans in OGH's in my most recent submission. Just saw the results: three received green stickers, one failed.
Yeah, you have to submit stickering submissions through an authorized dealer or a Legacy member.
Took me a while to find someone also.
Generally, where are you located?
Believe it or not, Mark, I thought about editing my post right after it was posted to say “frequently” instead since I knew you’d point it out, but I decided it wasn’t worth the trouble.
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
I believe you. You’re a very brave man for standing pat. 😀
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@DisneyFan I am just outside of Boston.
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Did you check the PCGS and NGC sites for any authorized dealers in your area? I’m sure that quite a few of them are also authorized CAC dealers. Perhaps there is one nearby who could assist you.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I will do that Mark. I didnt know there is a list. Ill look it up and see if I can find someone I am comfortable enough to trust.
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
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Here’s a link for the PCGS list: https://www.pcgs.com/dealers
First, enter your zip code or address into the “Location” box near the top of the page and click on “Search”. The page that comes up has a slide bar which allows you to adjust the number of miles within your area you’d like to search for nearby dealers.
Let me know if you have any questions either here or by private message and I’ll try to help.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.