Month or two ago, I got a type three gold dollar and it’s in one of the NGC holders that I actually like, pre-prong, of course, anyway if you look at the back, the hologram has some areas that are missing…
In fairness, it may have been made this way or it could be from a sticker, either way this is about the extent of what I can allow without wanting to re-holder it…
Something else I got, can’t remember off the top of my head, had issues with the hologram, but when I went and checked NGC, the slab shot in the database showed the same issues so it confirmed that one was made that way…
I guess the machine that makes the holograms isn’t perfect…
@asheland said:
Month or two ago, I got a type three gold dollar and it’s in one of the NGC holders that I actually like, pre-prong, of course, anyway if you look at the back, the hologram has some areas that are missing…
In fairness, it may have been made this way or it could be from a sticker, either way this is about the extent of what I can allow without wanting to re-holder it…
In fairness, I wouldn’t even glance at the hologram or the holder, as I would be focused on that mesmerizing little gem of a coin!
@Walkerguy21D said:
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In fairness, I wouldn’t even glance at the hologram or the holder, as I would be focused on that mesmerizing little gem of a coin!
@asheland said:
Month or two ago, I got a type three gold dollar and it’s in one of the NGC holders that I actually like, pre-prong, of course, anyway if you look at the back, the hologram has some areas that are missing…
In fairness, it may have been made this way or it could be from a sticker, either way this is about the extent of what I can allow without wanting to re-holder it…
In fairness, I wouldn’t even glance at the hologram or the holder, as I would be focused on that mesmerizing little gem of a coin!
I will admit, I was quite taken by that one… She went home with me!
😎
Did not realize that going on will stick with my CACG material. Been buying some, many low pop. They doing well at shows I attend too.
The NGC 1889 G $ looks real nice. Very PQ. Yes would want pick it up too. Can’t see anything wrong there except some spots on hologram. I guess u could get reholdered or c if cross at our hosts or CACG then if makes it at CACG u get to use the CAC CPG valuation. Plus wager it would be low pop, say if makes CACG 65 or higher. The cross, bump up to CAC CPG mite pay your subm costs or at least put dent. Just think then it might be the only one in the bourse room. Looks 65 (PQ) or highly likely better to me 66, 67?
I like old holders, been collecting them before they were old. And yes on the outside sticker problems. I will pass on a old holder that is damaged from sticker sickness.
But there don't seem to be many rare coins in old holders. But today you are seeing more on the market for sale,
For the life of me I can't see why the slabbed coins don't go into a bag and the sticker on the bag. I have over 700 graded coins in my collection and every one of them in a bag. They are cheap about a 100 for seven bucks. Dealers can just add that 7 cents because I am sure They would get them wholesale on the price of the coin. Isn't customer service still important?
But I also collect comic books and dealers do the same to those slabs. Never got and I don't Buy them if they put a sticker on it.
But I just recently received a coin I bought in an OGH and the dealer put a sticker on the slab after I bought it, I double checked the listing and it wasn't on there in the pictures. To me that is a seller defacing my property because I bought it without stickers but received it with stickers.
@Franklin_Fan said:
For the life of me I can't see why the slabbed coins don't go into a bag and the sticker on the bag. I have over 700 graded coins in my collection and every one of them in a bag. They are cheap about a 100 for seven bucks. Dealers can just add that 7 cents because I am sure They would get them wholesale on the price of the coin. Isn't customer service still important?
But I also collect comic books and dealers do the same to those slabs. Never got and I don't Buy them if they put a sticker on it.
But I just recently received a coin I bought in an OGH and the dealer put a sticker on the slab after I bought it, I double checked the listing and it wasn't on there in the pictures. To me that is a seller defacing my property because I bought it without stickers but received it with stickers.
That's what I do, slab sticker residue drives me CRAZY as well. I'll be sharing a link too the slab sleeves that I use.
I would think a seller would remove any price, inventory stickers, sticker residue before shipment. That is what I do for any outgoing…
I prefer small easy peal off inventory stickers (cost code) or any price sticker. Since prices can be constantly changing many just have a cost code.
For bullion related coins many have cost code plus code for MV and BV at time of purchase. In this way they can quickly estimate a price in quickly moving market.
@Franklin_Fan said:
For the life of me I can't see why the slabbed coins don't go into a bag and the sticker on the bag.
Suppose you're setting up at a show and you've got 150 slabs in bags. You can't put them in the case like that, you've got to take them out of the bags so buyers can see the coins. What do you do with the bags? The same thing happens if you take a bunch of slabs out of their bags in order to take photos for your website. Eventually, slabs can end up in the wrong bag.
Yes, I know nobody posting here would ever make a mistake like that, but still, it'll happen to someone. And that's one reason why dealers don't use bags.
Don't get me wrong, I am not just talking about dealers and bags, I am talking about anyone who buy's graded coins. When I first started collecting one of the first things I learned is eye appeal. You can have 2 proof 69's and one has better luster and eye appeal for about the same price. Most collectors would buy the more appealing coin. But if the holder is scratched that 69 coin will have the luster just not look good because of the holder. I have pride in my collecting and how they display is key whether it be coins, comics, or anything else. So if you don't take pride in yours and scratches don't matter, what's the sense in collecting. Hence have your collectibles protected.
I feel once that coin is put in that holder that holder becomes part of the coin and part of the display and look of that coin.
COIN SLEEVES RULE!
I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out that dealers have a need to track/price their coins and will likely do what's most convenient when it comes to accomplishing that task. Using sleeves is not a convenience and as previously noted, unnecessarily introduces possible difficulties when it comes to managing inventory.
@MasonG said:
I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out that dealers have a need to track/price their coins and will likely do what's most convenient when it comes to accomplishing that task. Using sleeves is not a convenience and as previously noted, unnecessarily introduces possible difficulties when it comes to managing inventory.
I agree with you. But I don’t think you qualify as someone who might be offended under my tongue-in-cheek scenario that I posted. “I fear that everyone who intentionally scratches holders because thy enjoy doing so, will be offended.😉”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld said:
I agree with you. But I don’t think you qualify as someone who might be offended under my tongue-in-cheek scenario that I posted. “I fear that everyone who intentionally scratches holders because thy enjoy doing so, will be offended.😉”
My "I'm not offended" was actually intended for the post above yours. The reason I came back to this subject is that anyone who has never been handed a printed inventory list and tasked with putting their hands on every coin on the list has no idea how important avoiding mistakes in identifying individual coins is, and how time consuming it can be to sort out the problem when it does occur. Making this procedure more challenging by complicating the inventory identification process is something most people would actively avoid.
@MFeld said:
I agree with you. But I don’t think you qualify as someone who might be offended under my tongue-in-cheek scenario that I posted. “I fear that everyone who intentionally scratches holders because thy enjoy doing so, will be offended.😉”
My "I'm not offended" was actually intended for the post above yours. The reason I came back to this subject is that anyone who has never been handed a printed inventory list and tasked with putting their hands on every coin on the list has no idea how important avoiding mistakes in identifying individual coins is, and how time consuming it can be to sort out the problem when it does occur. Making this procedure more challenging by complicating the inventory identification process is something most people would actively avoid.
Thanks for letting me know, as I was confused by your post.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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I guess if the deal allows you some room to get it reholdered….
I also hate damaged slabs; but, sometimes the coin is a rare opportunity in spite of the fact it's not fresh to the market.
True, in those instances, I will send it in for re-holdering but I really like the old holders…
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Month or two ago, I got a type three gold dollar and it’s in one of the NGC holders that I actually like, pre-prong, of course, anyway if you look at the back, the hologram has some areas that are missing…
In fairness, it may have been made this way or it could be from a sticker, either way this is about the extent of what I can allow without wanting to re-holder it…
My YouTube Channel
Something else I got, can’t remember off the top of my head, had issues with the hologram, but when I went and checked NGC, the slab shot in the database showed the same issues so it confirmed that one was made that way…
I guess the machine that makes the holograms isn’t perfect…
My YouTube Channel
In fairness, I wouldn’t even glance at the hologram or the holder, as I would be focused on that mesmerizing little gem of a coin!
Wait... There are coins in these holders?
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I will admit, I was quite taken by that one… She went home with me!
😎
My YouTube Channel
Did not realize that going on will stick with my CACG material. Been buying some, many low pop. They doing well at shows I attend too.
The NGC 1889 G $ looks real nice. Very PQ. Yes would want pick it up too. Can’t see anything wrong there except some spots on hologram. I guess u could get reholdered or c if cross at our hosts or CACG then if makes it at CACG u get to use the CAC CPG valuation. Plus wager it would be low pop, say if makes CACG 65 or higher. The cross, bump up to CAC CPG mite pay your subm costs or at least put dent. Just think then it might be the only one in the bourse room. Looks 65 (PQ) or highly likely better to me 66, 67?
Let know how goes if u send in.
I like old holders, been collecting them before they were old. And yes on the outside sticker problems. I will pass on a old holder that is damaged from sticker sickness.
But there don't seem to be many rare coins in old holders. But today you are seeing more on the market for sale,
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For the life of me I can't see why the slabbed coins don't go into a bag and the sticker on the bag. I have over 700 graded coins in my collection and every one of them in a bag. They are cheap about a 100 for seven bucks. Dealers can just add that 7 cents because I am sure They would get them wholesale on the price of the coin. Isn't customer service still important?
But I also collect comic books and dealers do the same to those slabs. Never got and I don't Buy them if they put a sticker on it.
But I just recently received a coin I bought in an OGH and the dealer put a sticker on the slab after I bought it, I double checked the listing and it wasn't on there in the pictures. To me that is a seller defacing my property because I bought it without stickers but received it with stickers.
I got this in the mail yesterday-
Peeled them off slowly. No problem. A little adhesive left on the front of the slab to work off.
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That's what I do, slab sticker residue drives me CRAZY as well. I'll be sharing a link too the slab sleeves that I use.
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I would think a seller would remove any price, inventory stickers, sticker residue before shipment. That is what I do for any outgoing…
I prefer small easy peal off inventory stickers (cost code) or any price sticker. Since prices can be constantly changing many just have a cost code.
For bullion related coins many have cost code plus code for MV and BV at time of purchase. In this way they can quickly estimate a price in quickly moving market.
Suppose you're setting up at a show and you've got 150 slabs in bags. You can't put them in the case like that, you've got to take them out of the bags so buyers can see the coins. What do you do with the bags? The same thing happens if you take a bunch of slabs out of their bags in order to take photos for your website. Eventually, slabs can end up in the wrong bag.
Yes, I know nobody posting here would ever make a mistake like that, but still, it'll happen to someone. And that's one reason why dealers don't use bags.
Don't get me wrong, I am not just talking about dealers and bags, I am talking about anyone who buy's graded coins. When I first started collecting one of the first things I learned is eye appeal. You can have 2 proof 69's and one has better luster and eye appeal for about the same price. Most collectors would buy the more appealing coin. But if the holder is scratched that 69 coin will have the luster just not look good because of the holder. I have pride in my collecting and how they display is key whether it be coins, comics, or anything else. So if you don't take pride in yours and scratches don't matter, what's the sense in collecting. Hence have your collectibles protected.
I feel once that coin is put in that holder that holder becomes part of the coin and part of the display and look of that coin.
COIN SLEEVES RULE!
Just my opinion not trying to offend anyone
I fear that everyone who intentionally scratches holders because thy enjoy doing so, will be offended.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out that dealers have a need to track/price their coins and will likely do what's most convenient when it comes to accomplishing that task. Using sleeves is not a convenience and as previously noted, unnecessarily introduces possible difficulties when it comes to managing inventory.
I agree with you. But I don’t think you qualify as someone who might be offended under my tongue-in-cheek scenario that I posted. “I fear that everyone who intentionally scratches holders because thy enjoy doing so, will be offended.😉”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
My "I'm not offended" was actually intended for the post above yours. The reason I came back to this subject is that anyone who has never been handed a printed inventory list and tasked with putting their hands on every coin on the list has no idea how important avoiding mistakes in identifying individual coins is, and how time consuming it can be to sort out the problem when it does occur. Making this procedure more challenging by complicating the inventory identification process is something most people would actively avoid.
Thanks for letting me know, as I was confused by your post.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.