These are nice coins but I see them selling for gold spot price in a couple of years. That's why I am not interested at these crazy premiums! More power to those who bought them. I just can't pull the trigger!
@Manorcourtman said:
These are nice coins but I see them selling for gold spot price in a couple of years. That's why I am not interested at these crazy premiums! More power to those who bought them. I just can't pull the trigger!
@Manorcourtman said:
These are nice coins but I see them selling for gold spot price in a couple of years. That's why I am not interested at these crazy premiums! More power to those who bought them. I just can't pull the trigger!
This ^^^^. That is the history of these. Which is why there is tepid demand, even with relatively low mintages.
You buy them because you like them. Not because you expect to be able to flip them, or expect them to hold their value.
If gold goes to $10K per ounce, they will be winners. Otherwise, not so much. Very risky play with gold up almost 100% in a year, and at a basically $900 per ounce premium to current spot.
The fact that the premium is a much lower percentage of spot than a year ago doesn't make them any less expensive.
@goldbuffalo said:
Kind of fishy on the 1/2 ounce. ats was 670 ish, then I refreshed about a minute or two after the HHL increase and it went instantly to zero. No draw down, just 670 to 0....
Other products have decreased in a more orderly fashion.
Just means one of the bulk buyers had a big order queued up. They can buy up to 1000 on a single order.
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@Manorcourtman said:
These are nice coins but I see them selling for gold spot price in a couple of years. That's why I am not interested at these crazy premiums! More power to those who bought them. I just can't pull the trigger!
$8000 - $9000 works for me in a couple years.
And if gold is $5000?
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Looking for advice. When the 2026 proof AGE became available from the US Mint on March 5, I did the following:
At 12:01 EST I placed my order for one coin and promptly received an “order received” email from the US Mint.
At 12:22 EST I received an “order confirmed” email from the US Mint.
At 16:07 EST I received an “order cancelled” email from the US Mint. This email contained the explanation that the “item you ordered is no longer available”.
Over the next two days I placed 3 more orders, ordering the same coin each time. In every case, I received the same three emails: order received, order confirmed, order cancelled.
My problem-solving attempts have included the following:
I carefully checked my billing and shipping addresses. They are correct.
I used two different credit cards, in case there was a credit card problem.
I called the credit card issuers. They confirmed there was no problem with my cards. They also confirmed the transactions from the US Mint had been approved. None had been declined,
I even set up a new US Mint account and ordered from that account, but with the same result.
I’ve called the US Mint three times to get assistance.
All three times the staff were friendly.
All three times they confirmed that the “item you ordered is no longer available” message was incorrect.
All three times they were unable to determine what the problem was.
All three times they simply suggested to “try again”, which is why I placed so many orders.
@cinque1543 said:
Looking for advice. When the 2026 proof AGE became available from the US Mint on March 5, I did the following:
At 12:01 EST I placed my order for one coin and promptly received an “order received” email from the US Mint.
At 12:22 EST I received an “order confirmed” email from the US Mint.
At 16:07 EST I received an “order cancelled” email from the US Mint. This email contained the explanation that the “item you ordered is no longer available”.
Over the next two days I placed 3 more orders, ordering the same coin each time. In every case, I received the same three emails: order received, order confirmed, order cancelled.
My problem-solving attempts have included the following:
I carefully checked my billing and shipping addresses. They are correct.
I used two different credit cards, in case there was a credit card problem.
I called the credit card issuers. They confirmed there was no problem with my cards. They also confirmed the transactions from the US Mint had been approved. None had been declined,
I even set up a new US Mint account and ordered from that account, but with the same result.
I’ve called the US Mint three times to get assistance.
All three times the staff were friendly.
All three times they confirmed that the “item you ordered is no longer available” message was incorrect.
All three times they were unable to determine what the problem was.
All three times they simply suggested to “try again”, which is why I placed so many orders.
Can anyone suggest a solution to the above?
Yes. While you had them on the phone, and they were suggesting you "try again," why didn't you "try again," right there and then, with them on the phone? They still take phone orders, don't they?
Yes. While you had them on the phone, and they were suggesting you "try again," why didn't you "try again," right there and then, with them on the phone? They still take phone orders, don't they?
I did place one of the orders via phone, while I had the rep on the phone. The problem is, at that moment everything goes through fine, and everything looks ok. The cancellation email only comes several hours later.
@cinque1543 said:
I did place one of the orders via phone, while I had the rep on the phone. The problem is, at that moment everything goes through fine, and everything looks ok. The cancellation email only comes several hours later.
It is a long shot, but the Mint does not accept payments by debit card, unless the card was issued as a check card with a VISA or MasterCard logo. Are you using a debit card?
@MetroD said:
It is a long shot, but the Mint does not accept payments by debit card, unless the card was issued as a check card with a VISA or MasterCard logo. Are you using a debit card?
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Hey Metro, I hope you can eventually share some close ups after you receive your 'booty'.
Hope all yours are flawless !!
Thanks for the well wishes. I appreciate it.
This week is really busy for me, and my camera skills are atrocious. So, I do not even plan to attempt any images. We'll have to wait for someone else to share their in-hand images.
Yes. While you had them on the phone, and they were suggesting you "try again," why didn't you "try again," right there and then, with them on the phone? They still take phone orders, don't they?
I did place one of the orders via phone, while I had the rep on the phone. The problem is, at that moment everything goes through fine, and everything looks ok. The cancellation email only comes several hours later.
Try a different payment method, maybe PayPal. The most likely thing is the card and possibly the address associated with the card. There's nothing much else that the Mint would be checking later.
Have you ordered anything from the Mint lately?
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If gold goes to $10K per ounce, they will be winners. Otherwise, not so much. Very risky play with gold up almost 100% in a year, and at a basically $900 per ounce premium to current spot.
That would not make the coin a winner. Why? Because you could buy low or zero premium gold and do better if we are judging winners by profit margin. The premium makes this coin a loser despite any melt value increase.
If gold goes to $10K per ounce, they will be winners. Otherwise, not so much. Very risky play with gold up almost 100% in a year, and at a basically $900 per ounce premium to current spot.
That would not make the coin a winner. Why? Because you could buy low or zero premium gold and do better if we are judging winners by profit margin. The premium makes this coin a loser despite any melt value increase.
With all due respect, I didn't say it would be the best possible precious metal, or numismatic, or any other, investment. Objectively speaking, if someone buys gold at a $900 per ounce premium to $5,100 spot, and gold goes to $10K, they will have a winner, because they will make money.
This is empirically correct, so there is no need to argue the point. "We" are judging winners by making money. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am not a fan at the Mint's pricing, but that's not the point. The point, which is really not open to debate, is that people are likely to get hurt financially with these if gold does nothing or goes down, and that they will not get hurt if gold goes to $10K per ounce. No need to read any more into it, or to compare it to everything else someone could possibly do with their money.
If gold goes to $10K per ounce, they will be winners. Otherwise, not so much. Very risky play with gold up almost 100% in a year, and at a basically $900 per ounce premium to current spot.
That would not make the coin a winner. Why? Because you could buy low or zero premium gold and do better if we are judging winners by profit margin. The premium makes this coin a loser despite any melt value increase.
With all due respect, I didn't say it would be the best possible precious metal, or numismatic, or any other, investment. Objectively speaking, if someone buys gold at a $900 per ounce premium to $5,100 spot, and gold goes to $10K, they will have a winner, because they will make money.
This is empirically correct, so there is no need to argue the point. "We" are judging winners by making money. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am not a fan at the Mint's pricing, but that's not the point. The point, which is really not open to debate, is that people are likely to get hurt financially with these if gold does nothing or goes down, and that they will not get hurt if gold goes to $10K per ounce. No need to read any more into it, or to compare it to everything else someone could possibly do with their money.
I get what you're saying but it's a mistake to call the coin a winner in that scenario because ALL gold coins are winners in that scenario. And if everyone's a winner, no one is a winner, so you have to apply some criteria to be able to differentiate a "winning" gold coin and a "losing" gold coin in the scenario or melt going to $10k. IMO, gold purchased at high premiums would be the "least winningest."
If gold goes to $10K per ounce, they will be winners. Otherwise, not so much. Very risky play with gold up almost 100% in a year, and at a basically $900 per ounce premium to current spot.
That would not make the coin a winner. Why? Because you could buy low or zero premium gold and do better if we are judging winners by profit margin. The premium makes this coin a loser despite any melt value increase.
With all due respect, I didn't say it would be the best possible precious metal, or numismatic, or any other, investment. Objectively speaking, if someone buys gold at a $900 per ounce premium to $5,100 spot, and gold goes to $10K, they will have a winner, because they will make money.
This is empirically correct, so there is no need to argue the point. "We" are judging winners by making money. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am not a fan at the Mint's pricing, but that's not the point. The point, which is really not open to debate, is that people are likely to get hurt financially with these if gold does nothing or goes down, and that they will not get hurt if gold goes to $10K per ounce. No need to read any more into it, or to compare it to everything else someone could possibly do with their money.
I get what you're saying but it's a mistake to call the coin a winner in that scenario because ALL gold coins are winners in that scenario. And if everyone's a winner, no one is a winner, so you have to apply some criteria to be able to differentiate a "winning" gold coin and a "losing" gold coin in the scenario or melt going to $10k. IMO, gold purchased at high premiums would be the "least winningest."
Respectfully disagree. Because I'm not comparing the coin to any other coin. Or to any other investment. Only to not buying it at all.
As I said above, I am not a fan of anything the Mint decides to sell at a $900 premium to intrinsic value. All I said is that if gold doubles, the coin will be a winner if it's bought at a 20% premium to spot. This is true, so there is nothing to debate.
It’s nice to see a coin go up in value if you are a collector. If you are buying as an investment you may want to reevaluate considering how stocks have outperformed by a long shot. I would recommend 5-10% in coins/precious metals and mining stocks. I know someone who was talked into moving her whole IRA into gold and silver about a year ago. She is happy now but this was her first time investing in metals and she got lucky so far.
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
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@jshaulis said:
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
@jshaulis said:
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
Is gold higher or lower than last week?
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@jshaulis said:
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
Is gold higher or lower than last week?
Was about the same at $5200 when I last looked a few hours ago
@jshaulis said:
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
Is gold higher or lower than last week?
Was about the same at $5200 when I last looked a few hours ago
You have to look at the weekly average. I don't know offhand, but that's how you would know.
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@jshaulis said:
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
Is gold higher or lower than last week?
Was about the same at $5200 when I last looked a few hours ago
You have to look at the weekly average. I don't know offhand, but that's how you would know.
Thanks for that. Somehow I always thought it was Wednesday's spot they used.
It was priced in the $5,200.00 to $5,249.99 range last week. It dropped below 5200 (down to almost 5050) and has went back over the 5200 today. I guess my actual question and not sure how to calculate other than eye balling it, it looks like it spent a fair amount of time over the last week under the 5200, so anyone know exactly how they calculate this? I am under the assumption it drops down one range if its truly an average.
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@jshaulis said:
It was priced in the $5,200.00 to $5,249.99 range last week. It dropped below 5200 (down to almost 5050) and has went back over the 5200 today. I guess my actual question and not sure how to calculate other than eye balling it, it looks like it spent a fair amount of time over the last week under the 5200, so anyone know exactly how they calculate this? I am under the assumption it drops down one range if its truly an average.
As coin collectibles go, duo dates really don’t command much premium, except to say it’s an Eagle being commemorated. Fancy that, maybe. I mean really it should say 1776-1933 and 1986-2026, because remember there was an executive order preventing us from having it for 53 years.
@TwoSides2aCoin said:
As coin collectibles go, duo dates really don’t command much premium, except to say it’s an Eagle being commemorated. Fancy that, maybe. I mean really it should say 1776-1933 and 1986-2026, because remember there was an executive order preventing us from having it for 53 years.
Yes, they shouldn't count the 53 years when the US wasn't a country. 🤔
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i got one yesterday and wanted to see how long the last few took to sell (was bored) and I saw them go to zero just two minutes after 12.
The 1/10 oz has 898 left to go at 5:45 EST. Those went in slow increments all afternoon.
ai forgot about the missing reed
Yup.
These are nice coins but I see them selling for gold spot price in a couple of years. That's why I am not interested at these crazy premiums! More power to those who bought them. I just can't pull the trigger!
$8000 - $9000 works for me in a couple years.
This ^^^^. That is the history of these. Which is why there is tepid demand, even with relatively low mintages.
You buy them because you like them. Not because you expect to be able to flip them, or expect them to hold their value.
If gold goes to $10K per ounce, they will be winners. Otherwise, not so much. Very risky play with gold up almost 100% in a year, and at a basically $900 per ounce premium to current spot.
The fact that the premium is a much lower percentage of spot than a year ago doesn't make them any less expensive.
Just means one of the bulk buyers had a big order queued up. They can buy up to 1000 on a single order.
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And if gold is $5000?
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Looking for advice. When the 2026 proof AGE became available from the US Mint on March 5, I did the following:
Over the next two days I placed 3 more orders, ordering the same coin each time. In every case, I received the same three emails: order received, order confirmed, order cancelled.
My problem-solving attempts have included the following:
I’ve called the US Mint three times to get assistance.
Can anyone suggest a solution to the above?
Yes. While you had them on the phone, and they were suggesting you "try again," why didn't you "try again," right there and then, with them on the phone? They still take phone orders, don't they?
I did place one of the orders via phone, while I had the rep on the phone. The problem is, at that moment everything goes through fine, and everything looks ok. The cancellation email only comes several hours later.
It is a long shot, but the Mint does not accept payments by debit card, unless the card was issued as a check card with a VISA or MasterCard logo. Are you using a debit card?
Has anyone received a shipping email yet?
Yes.
Ordered shortly after release on 3/5/26, next day shipping option.
Received shipping notice on 3/6/26, in the PM.
Scheduled to arrive on 3/9/26.
I have not. Order placed within first 60 seconds.
Thanks I thought i was the only one.
I didn’t choose next day shipping as MetroD did, so perhaps that’s the reason and we will get ours next week. My CC was charged for the order
No, the cards I used were CC.
Hey Metro, I hope you can eventually share some close ups after you receive your 'booty'.
Hope all yours are flawless !!
Thanks for the well wishes. I appreciate it.
This week is really busy for me, and my camera skills are atrocious. So, I do not even plan to attempt any images. We'll have to wait for someone else to share their in-hand images.
Best of luck to everyone that ordered.
Try a different payment method, maybe PayPal. The most likely thing is the card and possibly the address associated with the card. There's nothing much else that the Mint would be checking later.
Have you ordered anything from the Mint lately?
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That would not make the coin a winner. Why? Because you could buy low or zero premium gold and do better if we are judging winners by profit margin. The premium makes this coin a loser despite any melt value increase.
With all due respect, I didn't say it would be the best possible precious metal, or numismatic, or any other, investment. Objectively speaking, if someone buys gold at a $900 per ounce premium to $5,100 spot, and gold goes to $10K, they will have a winner, because they will make money.
This is empirically correct, so there is no need to argue the point. "We" are judging winners by making money. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am not a fan at the Mint's pricing, but that's not the point. The point, which is really not open to debate, is that people are likely to get hurt financially with these if gold does nothing or goes down, and that they will not get hurt if gold goes to $10K per ounce. No need to read any more into it, or to compare it to everything else someone could possibly do with their money.
I get what you're saying but it's a mistake to call the coin a winner in that scenario because ALL gold coins are winners in that scenario. And if everyone's a winner, no one is a winner, so you have to apply some criteria to be able to differentiate a "winning" gold coin and a "losing" gold coin in the scenario or melt going to $10k. IMO, gold purchased at high premiums would be the "least winningest."
Respectfully disagree. Because I'm not comparing the coin to any other coin. Or to any other investment. Only to not buying it at all.
As I said above, I am not a fan of anything the Mint decides to sell at a $900 premium to intrinsic value. All I said is that if gold doubles, the coin will be a winner if it's bought at a 20% premium to spot. This is true, so there is nothing to debate.
It’s nice to see a coin go up in value if you are a collector. If you are buying as an investment you may want to reevaluate considering how stocks have outperformed by a long shot. I would recommend 5-10% in coins/precious metals and mining stocks. I know someone who was talked into moving her whole IRA into gold and silver about a year ago. She is happy now but this was her first time investing in metals and she got lucky so far.
Buffalo.
Just noticed the 1/10 Oz joined the 1/2 in the “remind me” category
The 1/4 ounce gold ATS is 1778, Only two more sales for some lucky person to buy the 1776 ATS coin !!! Golly !! Historic !!
"inStockDate": "Thu Feb 26 2026",
"availabilityStatus": "IN_STOCK",
"isPreOrder": false,
"isBackOrder": false,
"ats": 1778,
"perpetual": false
3 $25 and 268 $5 available now
$25 gone gone gone.
Just checked my order from 12 noon on Thursday showing it shipped
Mine as well.
They reprice Wednesday's if memory serves me correctly. Is the price going to go up/down or stay the same? Anyway to know this prior to the price changing?
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https://www.usmint.gov/content/dam/usmint/shop/Pricing-Grid.pdf
Is gold higher or lower than last week?
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Was about the same at $5200 when I last looked a few hours ago
You have to look at the weekly average. I don't know offhand, but that's how you would know.
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Thanks for that. Somehow I always thought it was Wednesday's spot they used.
***EDIT. Found what you are referring to. Thanks for pointing that out.
https://www.usmint.gov/content/dam/usmint/shop/Pricing-Grid-Instructions.pdf
Check this link
https://goldsilver.com/price-charts/historical-london-fix/
I think average will be above $5100 previous average was above $5200 so we may have a decrease of $50-$100
It was priced in the $5,200.00 to $5,249.99 range last week. It dropped below 5200 (down to almost 5050) and has went back over the 5200 today. I guess my actual question and not sure how to calculate other than eye balling it, it looks like it spent a fair amount of time over the last week under the 5200, so anyone know exactly how they calculate this? I am under the assumption it drops down one range if its truly an average.
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As I understand it:
~ weekly average: R-AM thru W-AM. Forum Reference; Raw Data
~ W-PM is a 'tie-breaker'. See 4th column at: https://www.usmint.gov/content/dam/usmint/shop/Pricing-Grid-Instructions.pdf
Edited to add "Raw Data" link.
saving for the 1907 high relief
As coin collectibles go, duo dates really don’t command much premium, except to say it’s an Eagle being commemorated. Fancy that, maybe. I mean really it should say 1776-1933 and 1986-2026, because remember there was an executive order preventing us from having it for 53 years.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Yes, they shouldn't count the 53 years when the US wasn't a country. 🤔
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631 $25 available this morning.
Didn’t about 600 of these disappear in an instant last Friday after HHL was lifted?
343 now
They can mint more, up to 3500, while leaving 15000 for 4 coin set.
Prices dropped $100 per oz for reprice
Not a bad day for the Mint on these. Sold close to half of their "new" inventory this morning.
There are no bad days at the Mint. They make money every day.
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Still 2,575 of the four-coin 1776-2026 AGE sets left.
I'll probably get one at some point but I might wait a while hoping for a price drop.