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American Eagle 2026 One Ounce Silver Enhanced Uncirculated Coin

Do we expect the same craziness when the uncirculated coin releases in April like we saw with the proof ASE?

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  • CusterlostCusterlost Posts: 140 ✭✭✭

    So how many were actually offered yesterday February 26, 2026? Mint might be limited in how many planchets it can get. There is a lot of consumer silver being melted, that is true, but how much actually available in the form needed for silver eagles? Will the situation ease by April or get worse?

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2026 7:17AM

    Wild ! I just looked and 4-21-26 Unc issue dropped from limit 10 to limit 1 and mintage went from 90k max to 125k.

    90k to 125k max overnighy

    Oh !

    New ASE 1776~2026 dual date BU product. I got to it via 2026 Unc linky

    Something else I JUST signed up for as I would rather have BU silver.

    Now impossible to get to 2026 W ASE $ linky, tried to up my 4 to more system said I exceeded my limit which used to be 10.

  • CusterlostCusterlost Posts: 140 ✭✭✭

    How many of the pre-sellers are going to default?

  • OrlenaOrlena Posts: 396 ✭✭✭✭

    The place order bar is lit. Limit one per order

  • stawickstawick Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to know what exactly "Enhanced" Unc means??
    Just - Burnished? Laser engraved? ...

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2026 1:38PM

    @stawick said:
    I'd like to know what exactly "Enhanced" Unc means??
    Just - Burnished? Laser engraved? ...

    This is a common finish. Laser sandblasted. Go to eBay or Google and search "enhanced uncirculated" and you'll see what it looks like. They've used it many times before including the whole set in 2017 and a silver eagle.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • CusterlostCusterlost Posts: 140 ✭✭✭

    26’s completely gone from the catalog order page at this moment. Will they return?

  • stawickstawick Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @stawick said:
    I'd like to know what exactly "Enhanced" Unc means??
    Just - Burnished? Laser engraved? ...

    This is a common finish. Laser sandblasted. Go to eBay or Google and search "enhanced uncirculated" and you'll see what it looks like. They've used it many times before including the whole set in 2017 and a silver eagle.

    kewl - thx. B)
    That calms my completion FOMO itch. I collect the proof versions, and when they changed the reverse I grabbed a few burnished UNCs. Not really my cup o'tea. They got me once, gonna save my $ for some of the new items being offered this year.

  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭

  • stawickstawick Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    @GiveMeProof said:

    Iknowright?
    Thats what got me wondering.
    I have that, and others. Its like a floating definition of "Enhanced".

    A little proof, a little UNC. A little more, a little less.

  • OrlenaOrlena Posts: 396 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2026 5:58PM

    I believe that if the mint did a better job of presenting this coin it would sell out. The 2013 EUnc is a great looking, unique coin that we don’t see often. Combining that special finish for this 2026 with the somewhat limited mintage, dual dates, and the liberty bell privy could result in a winner.
    The problem for many is they don’t have a clue what the mint is creating and the mint hasn’t made much effort to present it. It’s the difference between an entity wanting to sell these and someone else (the mint) figuring they have a captive audience who will buy them anyway.

    I like em and signed up for one

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    That’s beautiful as it appears in the 2013 image above. The Mint missed the mark when failing to show it as it’s actually going to look. I signed up for one

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:
    That’s beautiful as it appears in the 2013 image above. The Mint missed the mark when failing to show it as it’s actually going to look. I signed up for one

    They didn't "miss" anything. They are going to easily sell 125K, one at a time, in around 24 hours, if not less. They don't need to do anything to further stimulate sales.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    That’s beautiful as it appears in the 2013 image above. The Mint missed the mark when failing to show it as it’s actually going to look. I signed up for one

    They didn't "miss" anything. They are going to easily sell 125K, one at a time, in around 24 hours, if not less. They don't need to do anything to further stimulate sales.

    Oh I have no doubt they’ll easily sell out, I guess I’m just grateful to have access to places like this forum and it’s long-time veterans who point out things such as this.

  • SilverPlatinumSilverPlatinum Posts: 345 ✭✭✭✭

    Why hasn’t the website page for the American Eagle 2026 One Ounce Silver Enhanced Uncirculated Coin been updated with current photos yet? The release date is less than a month away. Current photos look regular "Uncirculated!

  • Schmitz7Schmitz7 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭

    Will the mint re-price its silver offerings if silver stays at $70/ounce or lower? 150% markup on a silver coin is ridiculous!!

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    Why hasn’t the website page for the American Eagle 2026 One Ounce Silver Enhanced Uncirculated Coin been updated with current photos yet? The release date is less than a month away. Current photos look regular "Uncirculated!

    They NEVER put photos on their sales pages. It's always just clipart.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin will be worth 1/3 what you will pay for them by time they are shipped.

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Schmitz7 said:
    Will the mint re-price its silver offerings if silver stays at $70/ounce or lower? 150% markup on a silver coin is ridiculous!!

    No. The last reprice before the most recent one priced NCLT silver at around $90 per ounce when spot was around $30. A 200% markup.

    The markup is right around where they want it. If anything, they were conservative with their pricing when silver was over $100 per ounce, in probably recognition of the high price and resulting demand destruction. Silver would have to drop below $50 per ounce, and stay there for a sustained period of time, for the Mint to go back to the repricing well..

  • RAWcoinRAWcoin Posts: 94 ✭✭✭

    Mint’s web page has an In Stock Date of today (3/25) with an ATS of 100,000 and a maximum order of 10.

  • SilverPlatinumSilverPlatinum Posts: 345 ✭✭✭✭

    This coin will not be released next month (April) anymore! Now the mint is pushing it towards the summer!!!

  • Old_CollectorOld_Collector Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well at least we'll get a business strike dime in rolls and bags in April now on the 17th.

    Lots of things getting shuffled around this year.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This looks to be SOP for the new crew at the US Mint. I am on for one, but no bragging here as they are really starting to pluck my nerve over there and abhor their pricing schema.
    And some of the YouTubers keep pumping them about how scarce these 2026 coins will be in some of the guises & that they really are cheap in their pricing (specifics kept to myself).

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Chaos at the mint this year. Round and round it goes. When it will get issued:
    “Only my hairdresser knows for sure”

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • stawickstawick Posts: 525 ✭✭✭✭

    Resurrecting this thread ...
    I saw on HSN and checked again online the EnhUnc AGE sample they had. It left me unimpressed. Just my opinion.
    It looked more like a reverse proof attempt like this -

    and not like the 2013 ASE where the dress looks like it has gloss ribbons like this, which I prefer -

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stawick said:
    Resurrecting this thread ...
    I saw on HSN and checked again online the EnhUnc AGE sample they had. It left me unimpressed. Just my opinion.
    It looked more like a reverse proof attempt like this -

    and not like the 2013 ASE where the dress looks like it has gloss ribbons like this, which I prefer -

    You can't really go by their images, which seem to be AI generated rather than actual photos of the actual coins, but, yeah. The EU AGE on HSN did not look like past EU issues. Clearly a different process, since EU is not a defined finish, and consequently is whatever the Mint says it is.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2026 11:40AM

    I might want some slabbed 69 or 70 if can get somewhat close to bid / BV. Slabbed ASE good sellers (bourse retail) plus great bullion investment.

    If big silver bump up that is quality material for bull mkt. Plus they add to display case / strong sales demand. With some good sales promotion they are easy to move.

    Investor
  • NephasthNephasth Posts: 77 ✭✭✭

    @stawick said:
    Resurrecting this thread ...
    I saw on HSN and checked again online the EnhUnc AGE sample they had. It left me unimpressed. Just my opinion.
    It looked more like a reverse proof attempt like this -

    and not like the 2013 ASE where the dress looks like it has gloss ribbons like this, which I prefer -

    Yeah, the EU AGE looks more like a reverse proof for sure.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2026 12:50PM

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2026 1:34PM

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then started his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary. I don't know what that means for the Mint, other than their website is not a up to date as it used to be.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then stated his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary.

    I’ve written several local (to my area) historical books so I do enjoy research….on most any topic. Since NJ’s post, I did exactly what you suggested and now know far more about Mr Hollis than I did 60 minutes ago. Like I said, I regretfully took the top-line of most stories about his appointment to the position and didn’t read or research further. I’ve got a better understanding about why 2026 Mint activities shouldn’t have surprised me.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then stated his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary.

    That's right. Just look at what he's done. Don't simply take his very brief, biased CV summary. I'm pretty sure he served the interest of dealers on those "several numismatic boards." Not common collectors.

    Because, if he was really interested in common collectors, the first thing he would have done would have been to tell the Big Boys to get in line behind everyone else, and end the bulk sale discount and Advance Release programs. No set asides for anyone.

    They should be able to buy whatever they want, at the Mint issue price, just like anyone else, and subject to any HHLs in effect. Giving them priority to buy an undefined percent of of hot issues in advance to take them out of the waiting room to buy 1 one release day does no favors to the rest of us.

    Then he would have rolled back what they did with the pricing on the annual sets, and insisted that they be made to demand. They should not be vehicles for flips, and the Mint should not be selling $6 in base metal anything for more than a few dollars above the cost of production.

    Then we could talk about right sizing, and right pricing, everything else, in such a way as to create value without exploiting anyone. But that would not serve the interest of the dealer community, so it's never going to happen. The dealers are their primary market. We are not, even though, without us, there is no market at all.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then stated his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary.

    That's right. Just look at what he's done. Don't simply take his very brief, biased CV summary. I'm pretty sure he served the interest of dealers on those "several numismatic boards." Not common collectors.

    Because, if he was really interested in common collectors, the first thing he would have done would have been to tell the Big Boys to get in line behind everyone else, and end the bulk sale discount and Advance Release programs. No set asides for anyone.

    They should be able to buy whatever they want, at the Mint issue price, just like anyone else, and subject to any HHLs in effect. Giving them priority to buy an undefined percent of of hot issues in advance to take them out of the waiting room to buy 1 one release day does no favors to the rest of us.

    Then he would have rolled back what they did with the pricing on the annual sets, and insisted that they be made to demand. They should not be vehicles for flips, and the Mint should not be selling $6 in base metal anything for more than a few dollars above the cost of production.

    Then we could talk about right sizing, and right pricing, everything else, in such a way as to create value without exploiting anyone. But that would not serve the interest of the dealer community, so it's never going to happen. The dealers are their primary market. We are not, even though, without us, there is no market at all.

    Disagree

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then stated his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary.

    That's right. Just look at what he's done. Don't simply take his very brief, biased CV summary. I'm pretty sure he served the interest of dealers on those "several numismatic boards." Not common collectors.

    Because, if he was really interested in common collectors, the first thing he would have done would have been to tell the Big Boys to get in line behind everyone else, and end the bulk sale discount and Advance Release programs. No set asides for anyone.

    They should be able to buy whatever they want, at the Mint issue price, just like anyone else, and subject to any HHLs in effect. Giving them priority to buy an undefined percent of of hot issues in advance to take them out of the waiting room to buy 1 one release day does no favors to the rest of us.

    Then he would have rolled back what they did with the pricing on the annual sets, and insisted that they be made to demand. They should not be vehicles for flips, and the Mint should not be selling $6 in base metal anything for more than a few dollars above the cost of production.

    Then we could talk about right sizing, and right pricing, everything else, in such a way as to create value without exploiting anyone. But that would not serve the interest of the dealer community, so it's never going to happen. The dealers are their primary market. We are not, even though, without us, there is no market at all.

    Disagree

    Of course you do. As a dealer, you would be SOL if there was no flip for you to exploit.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then stated his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary.

    That's right. Just look at what he's done. Don't simply take his very brief, biased CV summary. I'm pretty sure he served the interest of dealers on those "several numismatic boards." Not common collectors.

    Because, if he was really interested in common collectors, the first thing he would have done would have been to tell the Big Boys to get in line behind everyone else, and end the bulk sale discount and Advance Release programs. No set asides for anyone.

    They should be able to buy whatever they want, at the Mint issue price, just like anyone else, and subject to any HHLs in effect. Giving them priority to buy an undefined percent of of hot issues in advance to take them out of the waiting room to buy 1 one release day does no favors to the rest of us.

    Then he would have rolled back what they did with the pricing on the annual sets, and insisted that they be made to demand. They should not be vehicles for flips, and the Mint should not be selling $6 in base metal anything for more than a few dollars above the cost of production.

    Then we could talk about right sizing, and right pricing, everything else, in such a way as to create value without exploiting anyone. But that would not serve the interest of the dealer community, so it's never going to happen. The dealers are their primary market. We are not, even though, without us, there is no market at all.

    Disagree

    Of course you do. As a dealer, you would be SOL if there was no flip for you to exploit.

    I flip very few Mint products, especially at these price levels. I'm also not a Big Boy who gets guaranteed access. That is NOT why I disagree.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • mbr33mbr33 Posts: 288 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:

    @NJCoin said:

    @mbr33 said:
    Let’s hope the 2026 Enhanced silver Eagle looks like the 2013 you’ve shown above. That’s a fine looking coin.

    Yes, let's hope. But the odds are very extremely extraordinarily high, in 2026, that it is going to look exactly like the other 2026 EU coin they are making.

    Do you feel that’s due to what they call “technical advances in the process” or a choice? As you said, they can do what they want because it is what the Mint says it is as it’s not a defined finish.

    No way to know. It sure doesn't look as good.

    My money is on it being less expensive to execute, and on them counting on people either not noticing or not caring. No different than cheapening packaging or obnoxiously increasing pricing. They are running it more like a business and less like a service now.

    As a taxpayer, I guess that’s what we want to see (and are frankly not used to) but as a collector, it blows.
    I admired the nice wooden boxes they used to use for the Buffalo gold coins. The 2026 packaging could have been much more extravagant for the gold coins at the very least, but profits seem to be their main driver for the 250th.

    It's not just the 250th. It's the new director, coming from the industry.

    As a collector himself, I could see him on one hand doing what it took to turn a profit, but also expected him to throw collectors a proverbial bone here and there to ignite/maintain collector interest and loyalty. So far, that’s been lacking, which will make 2027 all the more challenging for he and the Mint.

    Nope. Don't be naive. I'm not sure what "collector himself" would mean here.

    He came from Blanchard, one of the largest and most predatory firms in the business. He's a proverbial "Big Boy" in every sense of the word. His sympathies, loyalty, etc. would lie with them. If anything, he is just turning the Mint into the biggest of the Big Boys.

    Mint product is nothing more than the vehicle to move money from your wallet into theirs. As you can now clearly see. $124.50 for a base metal annual uncirculated set. 'Nuff said.

    As a researcher by nature, and an avid reader, I will confess to knowing very little about him other than what I’ve read at the top line of stories I haven’t delved into. I fell for the “collector himself” tagline and felt he would be more relatable.

    Your explanation of who he is and what he’s done to date makes much more sense based on what he’s done with pricing since taking the post. $124.50 is proof positive that the objective is to move the collector’s money into theirs. The jury is out on how successful that is, but this year should be his best opportunity to turn a profit. After this, he’s going to need to turn to more collector-friendly offers to achieve that goal. How else could he maintain a semblance of profitability?

    He is a collector who worked at Blanchard 25 years ago, then stated his own firm. He's served on several numismatic boards. If you are a researcher, don't simply take NJ's very brief, biased summary.

    That's right. Just look at what he's done. Don't simply take his very brief, biased CV summary. I'm pretty sure he served the interest of dealers on those "several numismatic boards." Not common collectors.

    if there was no flip for you to exploit.

    I flip very few Mint products, especially at these price levels. I'm also not a Big Boy who gets guaranteed access. That is NOT why I disagree.

    I know I’ve said before that I value the opinions of both of you, as you’re both full of good information on more occasions than not. So thank you both for that….yet again.
    I also see that you both disagree on many issues, and those disagreements really make me think about my own opinion on various subjects. So, can I ask for my own knowledge, what do you disagree with?

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