@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
One can purchase these on e bay for $23 plus shipping !
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
You know better than to actually believe this. Their system is set up to price all years the same. They don't expect to sell a single one, other than 2025s and 2026s, at anything near this price.
You yourself have said in other posts it's all about the cents, and what the 2025s sell for in the secondary market. Why post things you don't even believe just to get a reaction?
Bottom line -- they created an artificial rarity out of something that has always been a common product easily accessible to beginning collectors, and are now monetizing it. Because they can. Not because they suddenly decided 2021 sets that have been sitting unsold and unloved, first at $25.25 (2021), and then at $29.00 (2023), and then at $33.25 (2025), for nearly 5 years needed a little bump to $124.50 to stimulate interest and move them off the shelf. You know better.
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
One can purchase these on e bay for $23 plus shipping !
That is quite beside the point. We have no idea what the 2026 unc set will be selling on eBay 6 months from now much less 5 years from now. The point, in case you lost the thread, is that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in any particular Mint set, it is the price of ALL Mint sets. The price MAY have been influenced by secondary market pricing of 2025 sets, but we don't even know that.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
You know better than to actually believe this. Their system is set up to price all years the same. They don't expect to sell a single one, other than 2025s and 2026s, at anything near this price.
You yourself have said in other posts it's all about the cents, and what the 2025s sell for in the secondary market. Why post things you don't even believe just to get a reaction?
Bottom line -- they created an artificial rarity out of something that has always been a common product easily accessible to beginning collectors, and are now monetizing it. Because they can. Not because they suddenly decided 2021 sets that have been sitting unsold and unloved, first at $25.25 (2021), and then at $29.00 (2023), and then at $33.25 (2025), for nearly 5 years needed a little bump to $124.50 to stimulate interest and move them off the shelf. You know better.
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I ONE HUNDERED PERCENT BELIEVE THAT THE PRICE OF ALL MINT SETS (AS SHOWN) IS THE SAME.
The OP has been speculating on multiple threads (he likes to post the same question multiple times) what might be in the set that justifies the price. I pointed out that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in the set by showing that they have priced other sets at the same price. I'm not trying to get a reaction nor pick a fight (like you), simply to illustrate the point.
Can you ever NOT reflexively argue even with points you believe?
And, yes, the 2026 set value is all about the cents. If they sell bags of cents, I'm cancelling my subscription. That is another matter entirely.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
One can purchase these on e bay for $23 plus shipping !
That is quite beside the point. We have no idea what the 2026 unc set will be selling on eBay 6 months from now much less 5 years from now. The point, in case you lost the thread, is that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in any particular Mint set, it is the price of ALL Mint sets. The price MAY have been influenced by secondary market pricing of 2025 sets, but we don't even know that.
No. We don't know anything, because anything is possible.
But we can use the intelligence most of us were born with, engage in informed speculation, and reach the obvious conclusions. Or, we can argue anything, because anything is possible.
Including Mint sets initially priced at $25 five years ago, selling on the secondary market today for $25, and still sitting unsold in Mint inventory at $33.25, are presently under priced by nearly $100, and so justified a corresponding price adjustment by the Mint.
Or, now here me out, the Mint decided to limit the mintage of the 2026 sets to 190K, include in the sets two base metal zinc coins unavailable elsewhere, and cynically jack up the price to what it thinks the sets will sell for in the secondary market. Creating an artificial rarity from what has historically been a common, entry level collectible, and then exploit that by engaging in what, in any other context, would be considered price gouging.
Any past year sets remaining in inventory were repriced accordingly, but that's neither here nor there, given that they haven't sold since 2021, and won't be selling now. At $33.25 or at $124.50. The Mint knows this. As do you.
Might as well be $4,950.00 for the 2021 set. Wouldn't cause them to sell a single set less than at $124.50.
People should vote with their wallets and avoid the 2026 sets entirely. But they won't. The Mint also knows this. As do you.
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
You know better than to actually believe this. Their system is set up to price all years the same. They don't expect to sell a single one, other than 2025s and 2026s, at anything near this price.
You yourself have said in other posts it's all about the cents, and what the 2025s sell for in the secondary market. Why post things you don't even believe just to get a reaction?
Bottom line -- they created an artificial rarity out of something that has always been a common product easily accessible to beginning collectors, and are now monetizing it. Because they can. Not because they suddenly decided 2021 sets that have been sitting unsold and unloved, first at $25.25 (2021), and then at $29.00 (2023), and then at $33.25 (2025), for nearly 5 years needed a little bump to $124.50 to stimulate interest and move them off the shelf. You know better.
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I ONE HUNDERED PERCENT BELIEVE THAT THE PRICE OF ALL MINT SETS (AS SHOWN) IS THE SAME.
The OP has been speculating on multiple threads (he likes to post the same question multiple times) what might be in the set that justifies the price. I pointed out that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in the set by showing that they have priced other sets at the same price. I'm not trying to get a reaction nor pick a fight (like you), simply to illustrate the point.
Can you ever NOT reflexively argue even with points you believe?
And, yes, the 2026 set value is all about the cents. If they sell bags of cents, I'm cancelling my subscription. That is another matter entirely.
This I agree with. I don't think anything else is going to be in the sets. It's all about the cents.
My point is that it's a cynical money grab by the Mint, when they should be making them to order, at $33.25 each. The fact that they repriced 2021 sets to match means nothing, because they don't think they are going to sell any at that price, given that what's left in inventory now has not sold at $25.25, $29, or $33.25 since 2021.
"Or, now here me out, the Mint decided to limit the mintage of the 2026 sets to 190K, include in the sets two base metal zinc coins unavailable elsewhere, and cynically jack up the price to what it thinks the sets will sell for in the secondary market. Creating an artificial rarity from what has historically been a common, entry level collectible, and then exploit that by engaging in what, in any other context, would be considered price gouging."
@Rc5280 said:
"Or, now here me out, the Mint decided to limit the mintage of the 2026 sets to 190K, include in the sets two base metal zinc coins unavailable elsewhere, and cynically jack up the price to what it thinks the sets will sell for in the secondary market. Creating an artificial rarity from what has historically been a common, entry level collectible, and then exploit that by engaging in what, in any other context, would be considered price gouging."
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
One can purchase these on e bay for $23 plus shipping !
That is quite beside the point. We have no idea what the 2026 unc set will be selling on eBay 6 months from now much less 5 years from now. The point, in case you lost the thread, is that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in any particular Mint set, it is the price of ALL Mint sets. The price MAY have been influenced by secondary market pricing of 2025 sets, but we don't even know that.
No. We don't know anything, because anything is possible.
But we can use the intelligence most of us were born with, engage in informed speculation, and reach the obvious conclusions. Or, we can argue anything, because anything is possible.
Including Mint sets initially priced at $25 five years ago, selling on the secondary market today for $25, and still sitting unsold in Mint inventory at $33.25, are presently under priced by nearly $100, and so justified a corresponding price adjustment by the Mint.
Or, now here me out, the Mint decided to limit the mintage of the 2026 sets to 190K, include in the sets two base metal zinc coins unavailable elsewhere, and cynically jack up the price to what it thinks the sets will sell for in the secondary market. Creating an artificial rarity from what has historically been a common, entry level collectible, and then exploit that by engaging in what, in any other context, would be considered price gouging.
Any past year sets remaining in inventory were repriced accordingly, but that's neither here nor there, given that they haven't sold since 2021, and won't be selling now. At $33.25 or at $124.50. The Mint knows this. As do you.
Might as well be $4,950.00 for the 2021 set. Wouldn't cause them to sell a single set less than at $124.50.
People should vote with their wallets and avoid the 2026 sets entirely. But they won't. The Mint also knows this. As do you.
You believe what you want. I'll do the same.
I don't know what you THINK I'm saying, but you just repeated (in far more words) exactly what I said.
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@jdimmick said:
Customers in shop tell me their go after the pennies
Exactly. I don't know what NJ's 4000 essay is trying to say. IF IF IF these sets have any legs, it's just because of the cents. Every other coin is common and found elsewhere. People might pay a slight premium to have the SemiQ coins in nicer condition. But the cent is (presumably) only available in these sets and will be the lowest mintage business strike ever. So, there will be some demand. How much and at what price remains speculative. But I'm betting a couple thousand that they sell for more than $125 in the first 6 months to a year. I also will NOT be betting a couple thousand that they are worth more than that 5 years from now - although they could be.
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@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
You know better than to actually believe this. Their system is set up to price all years the same. They don't expect to sell a single one, other than 2025s and 2026s, at anything near this price.
You yourself have said in other posts it's all about the cents, and what the 2025s sell for in the secondary market. Why post things you don't even believe just to get a reaction?
Bottom line -- they created an artificial rarity out of something that has always been a common product easily accessible to beginning collectors, and are now monetizing it. Because they can. Not because they suddenly decided 2021 sets that have been sitting unsold and unloved, first at $25.25 (2021), and then at $29.00 (2023), and then at $33.25 (2025), for nearly 5 years needed a little bump to $124.50 to stimulate interest and move them off the shelf. You know better.
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I ONE HUNDERED PERCENT BELIEVE THAT THE PRICE OF ALL MINT SETS (AS SHOWN) IS THE SAME.
The OP has been speculating on multiple threads (he likes to post the same question multiple times) what might be in the set that justifies the price. I pointed out that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in the set by showing that they have priced other sets at the same price. I'm not trying to get a reaction nor pick a fight (like you), simply to illustrate the point.
Can you ever NOT reflexively argue even with points you believe?
And, yes, the 2026 set value is all about the cents. If they sell bags of cents, I'm cancelling my subscription. That is another matter entirely.
This I agree with. I don't think anything else is going to be in the sets. It's all about the cents.
My point is that it's a cynical money grab by the Mint, when they should be making them to order, at $33.25 each. The fact that they repriced 2021 sets to match means nothing, because they don't think they are going to sell any at that price, given that what's left in inventory now has not sold at $25.25, $29, or $33.25 since 2021.
I've never said anything different. ALL Mint products are "cynical money grabs" of a sort, at least since they repriced them to be profitable 5 or so years ago. I'm not trying to change the Mint or justify the Mint or anything else. I'm just playing in the sandbox that exists.
I will add that I'm actually surprised they didn't set the product limit at a million or more, like back in good old 1976. I had expected these sets to be equally overproduced. In some ways, it's a pleasant surprise that they went with a far more reasonable number.
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IMO no cents should be produced in 2026 or beyond. (The real losers may be the buyers of the omega cents - I think that’s where the real travesty lies.) One could argue that the omega cents were the last of the “circulated” cents, but none were made for circulation, so they are commemoratives of a sort. (?) What then are the cents of 2026 and beyond? The 1776/2026 cents might be treated as commemoratives as well, but then what of 2027+ cents if this trend continues? What we have here is a numismatic mess designed to extract money from hobbyists and speculators. A real shame.
@oldabeintx said:
IMO no cents should be produced in 2026 or beyond. (The real losers may be the buyers of the omega cents - I think that’s where the real travesty lies.) One could argue that the omega cents were the last of the “circulated” cents, but none were made for circulation, so they are commemoratives of a sort. (?) What then are the cents of 2026 and beyond? The 1776/2026 cents might be treated as commemoratives as well, but then what of 2027+ cents if this trend continues? What we have here is a numismatic mess designed to extract money from hobbyists and speculators. A real shame.
I agree . I can see this year with the duel date , after that....... NO
@mach19 said:
Why do you folks think the price increase is Justified ?
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
@oldabeintx said:
IMO no cents should be produced in 2026 or beyond. (The real losers may be the buyers of the omega cents - I think that’s where the real travesty lies.) One could argue that the omega cents were the last of the “circulated” cents, but none were made for circulation, so they are commemoratives of a sort. (?) What then are the cents of 2026 and beyond? The 1776/2026 cents might be treated as commemoratives as well, but then what of 2027+ cents if this trend continues? What we have here is a numismatic mess designed to extract money from hobbyists and speculators. A real shame.
The Mint struck at least 1.34 Billion (with a b) circulating cents for 2025. They're (sort of) all over the place now. The Omega's were the last ones to hit the press - by hand...
The cent's of 2026 and beyond are considered numismatic/commemoratives(?) that go into collector sets, even though (arguably), they are produced in the same manner in which the circulating cents were struck.
@oldabeintx said:
IMO no cents should be produced in 2026 or beyond. (The real losers may be the buyers of the omega cents - I think that’s where the real travesty lies.) One could argue that the omega cents were the last of the “circulated” cents, but none were made for circulation, so they are commemoratives of a sort. (?) What then are the cents of 2026 and beyond? The 1776/2026 cents might be treated as commemoratives as well, but then what of 2027+ cents if this trend continues? What we have here is a numismatic mess designed to extract money from hobbyists and speculators. A real shame.
How come no one calls for them to stop minting Kennedy Halves?
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I think it's just poor decision-making limiting the mintage to 190,000 P & D cents dated 1776-2026. The 250 anniversary of the USA! Millions of people and kids sadly won't get to have them. There's something really tragically wrong with the Patriotic consciousness of this country/ nation/system. US Mint needs to be petitioned into making two coin sets so everyone can celebrate the 250th birthday of the USA!!
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
The $124.50 1776~2026 Unc sets & $245 Silver Proof sets & $107 Clad Proof Sets continue to pop up in stock.
I've added a few more subscriptions the last few days, but not the clad proofs.
420k mintage makes me sad to acquire clad.
But clad set is probably the best deal at $107 with 420k made.
@Mr Lindy said:
The $124.50 1776~2026 Unc sets & $245 Silver Proof sets & $107 Clad Proof Sets continue to pop up in stock.
I've added a few more subscriptions the last few days, but not the clad proofs.
420k mintage makes me sad to acquire clad.
But clad set is probably the best deal at $107 with 420k made.
Actually, no. While they are all rip-offs, $124.50 for something with a mintage of 190K and two unique cents unavailable elsewhere is a FAR better deal than $107 for 420K with only one unique cent unavailable elsewhere. Not close, if you are chasing NCLT cents.
@leothelyon said:
I think it's just poor decision-making limiting the mintage to 190,000 P & D cents dated 1776-2026. The 250 anniversary of the USA! Millions of people and kids sadly won't get to have them. There's something really tragically wrong with the Patriotic consciousness of this country/ nation/system. US Mint needs to be petitioned into making two coin sets so everyone can celebrate the 250th birthday of the USA!!
Leo
You are, of course, correct. But it's just not gonna happen after they jacked up the price of the uncirculated sets from $33.25 to $124.50. They want people to celebrate the 250th birthday of the USA by buying $173 proof ASEs.
And all of the other really expensive, limited mintage items they have planned for this year. Not by obtaining a readily available annual set of circulating coinage, including cents and half dollars that don't actually circulate.
How come no one calls for them to stop minting Kennedy Halves?
My guess: it costs less than 50 cents to make them. (??).
I certainly haven’t seen any in change for some time, although I’m pretty much cashless these days.
How come no one calls for them to stop minting Kennedy Halves?
My guess: it costs less than 50 cents to make them. (??).
I certainly haven’t seen any in change for some time, although I’m pretty much cashless these days.
That really wasn't the point. They are getting far more than 1 cent for the non-circulating cents in the Mint sets, yet you want them to stop making those because they stopped making them for circulation. They essentially stopped making half dollars for circulation a decade ago and only make them for collectors, yet you aren't calling for a stop to that practice.
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Clad proof sets at 420k plus Silver Proof sets at 151k = 571,000+ proof 1776~2026 S Cents.
I agree with you the Unc sets are best one offer collectable due to presentation limited to 190k Cents pair that are Non Circulating Legal Tender, NCLT. That's why I keep adding them when I can at $124.50, which I agree is crazy money. And ever since Mint started lasering proof dies over a decade ago I prefer UNC finish. But .999 fractional silvers are proof only & new to me as I had not paid attention. This issue seems to have much more potential value if silver continues to move higher and I have been led to believe 1776~2026 is a one year and done issue. I cannot buy into 1776~2026 ASE $ with 500k max planned mintage, especially if silver's head room is an illusion and it tanks back into mid $30s an ounce.
I have learned much more about the USMINT collectable ordering system due to this helpful community and constant interaction with the Mint website. Up till now I've been a one & done purchaser. Mostly I've been a none & done as I do not collect normal Mint products, just really been an error coin collector since 1979. But the FOMO of living through another dual dated collectable era reminds me of being a kid when 1976 two year run of collectables happened. That was fun times & reminds me of fond memories of my parents. I inherited all those Mint products still in mailing envelopes with addresses we lived at decades ago.
@Mr Lindy said:
The $124.50 1776~2026 Unc sets & $245 Silver Proof sets & $107 Clad Proof Sets continue to pop up in stock.
I've added a few more subscriptions the last few days, but not the clad proofs.
420k mintage makes me sad to acquire clad.
But clad set is probably the best deal at $107 with 420k made.
Actually, no. While they are all rip-offs, $124.50 for something with a mintage of 190K and two unique cents unavailable elsewhere is a FAR better deal than $107 for 420K with only one unique cent unavailable elsewhere. Not close, if you are chasing NCLT cents.
@Mr Lindy said:
The $124.50 1776~2026 Unc sets & $245 Silver Proof sets & $107 Clad Proof Sets continue to pop up in stock.
I've added a few more subscriptions the last few days, but not the clad proofs.
420k mintage makes me sad to acquire clad.
But clad set is probably the best deal at $107 with 420k made.
Actually, no. While they are all rip-offs, $124.50 for something with a mintage of 190K and two unique cents unavailable elsewhere is a FAR better deal than $107 for 420K with only one unique cent unavailable elsewhere. Not close, if you are chasing NCLT cents.
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The two cents are limited 190k each, or so it seems, unless the rules change...
Agreed..... Just thinking sumpin else is in the cards ?
Penny Bags & rolls
;^(
WOW...... good point !
June 30th unc set issue date, so between now and then should have a better handle on 1776~2026 reality
I just added another unc set order to the mini hoard
I don't think it is. I think they are just doing it because they can.
"Justifying it" by limiting production of zinc 2026 cents to 190K each for Denver and Philadelphia, creating artificial rarities of base metal cent coins that don't even circulate. I think anyone chasing them at around $50 each is foolish, and that the Mint should be ashamed of itself for creating the shortage and then taking advantage of people.
This is supposed to be an annual set of circulating coins. It should be made to demand, at a modest premium to the cost of production, with or without cents that no longer circulate.
This is what it has always been, but they have now decided to go in another direction. And that is your so-called "justification."
I Truly respect your opinion !
Thanks for the kind words!!! 😀
Your more than welcome my friend ..... I just can't imagine this price increase for two Lincolns ?
The price increase has nothing to do with what's in the set. It applies to all Mint sets, prior years as well.
2021 set anyone
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You can purchase these on the 'Bay for $25
One can purchase these on e bay for $23 plus shipping !
Just remember...the advice you receive on the site is worth every bit of what you paid for it.
You know better than to actually believe this. Their system is set up to price all years the same. They don't expect to sell a single one, other than 2025s and 2026s, at anything near this price.
You yourself have said in other posts it's all about the cents, and what the 2025s sell for in the secondary market. Why post things you don't even believe just to get a reaction?
Bottom line -- they created an artificial rarity out of something that has always been a common product easily accessible to beginning collectors, and are now monetizing it. Because they can. Not because they suddenly decided 2021 sets that have been sitting unsold and unloved, first at $25.25 (2021), and then at $29.00 (2023), and then at $33.25 (2025), for nearly 5 years needed a little bump to $124.50 to stimulate interest and move them off the shelf. You know better.
the price is not justified
That is quite beside the point. We have no idea what the 2026 unc set will be selling on eBay 6 months from now much less 5 years from now. The point, in case you lost the thread, is that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in any particular Mint set, it is the price of ALL Mint sets. The price MAY have been influenced by secondary market pricing of 2025 sets, but we don't even know that.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I ONE HUNDERED PERCENT BELIEVE THAT THE PRICE OF ALL MINT SETS (AS SHOWN) IS THE SAME.
The OP has been speculating on multiple threads (he likes to post the same question multiple times) what might be in the set that justifies the price. I pointed out that the pricing has nothing to do with what is in the set by showing that they have priced other sets at the same price. I'm not trying to get a reaction nor pick a fight (like you), simply to illustrate the point.
Can you ever NOT reflexively argue even with points you believe?
And, yes, the 2026 set value is all about the cents. If they sell bags of cents, I'm cancelling my subscription. That is another matter entirely.
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No. We don't know anything, because anything is possible.
But we can use the intelligence most of us were born with, engage in informed speculation, and reach the obvious conclusions. Or, we can argue anything, because anything is possible.
Including Mint sets initially priced at $25 five years ago, selling on the secondary market today for $25, and still sitting unsold in Mint inventory at $33.25, are presently under priced by nearly $100, and so justified a corresponding price adjustment by the Mint.
Or, now here me out, the Mint decided to limit the mintage of the 2026 sets to 190K, include in the sets two base metal zinc coins unavailable elsewhere, and cynically jack up the price to what it thinks the sets will sell for in the secondary market. Creating an artificial rarity from what has historically been a common, entry level collectible, and then exploit that by engaging in what, in any other context, would be considered price gouging.
Any past year sets remaining in inventory were repriced accordingly, but that's neither here nor there, given that they haven't sold since 2021, and won't be selling now. At $33.25 or at $124.50. The Mint knows this. As do you.
Might as well be $4,950.00 for the 2021 set. Wouldn't cause them to sell a single set less than at $124.50.
People should vote with their wallets and avoid the 2026 sets entirely. But they won't. The Mint also knows this. As do you.
You believe what you want. I'll do the same.
This I agree with. I don't think anything else is going to be in the sets. It's all about the cents.
My point is that it's a cynical money grab by the Mint, when they should be making them to order, at $33.25 each. The fact that they repriced 2021 sets to match means nothing, because they don't think they are going to sell any at that price, given that what's left in inventory now has not sold at $25.25, $29, or $33.25 since 2021.
"Or, now here me out, the Mint decided to limit the mintage of the 2026 sets to 190K, include in the sets two base metal zinc coins unavailable elsewhere, and cynically jack up the price to what it thinks the sets will sell for in the secondary market. Creating an artificial rarity from what has historically been a common, entry level collectible, and then exploit that by engaging in what, in any other context, would be considered price gouging."
100% Hogwash.
Really? Which part?
To me it would stressful chasing modern rarities. At least with classic coins the mintage figure is a known.
Customers in shop tell me their going after the pennies
I don't know what you THINK I'm saying, but you just repeated (in far more words) exactly what I said.
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Exactly. I don't know what NJ's 4000 essay is trying to say. IF IF IF these sets have any legs, it's just because of the cents. Every other coin is common and found elsewhere. People might pay a slight premium to have the SemiQ coins in nicer condition. But the cent is (presumably) only available in these sets and will be the lowest mintage business strike ever. So, there will be some demand. How much and at what price remains speculative. But I'm betting a couple thousand that they sell for more than $125 in the first 6 months to a year. I also will NOT be betting a couple thousand that they are worth more than that 5 years from now - although they could be.
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I've never said anything different. ALL Mint products are "cynical money grabs" of a sort, at least since they repriced them to be profitable 5 or so years ago. I'm not trying to change the Mint or justify the Mint or anything else. I'm just playing in the sandbox that exists.
I will add that I'm actually surprised they didn't set the product limit at a million or more, like back in good old 1976. I had expected these sets to be equally overproduced. In some ways, it's a pleasant surprise that they went with a far more reasonable number.
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It's not justified. To use the slang of my generation, it's a rip-off.
Just looked up 2-15-26 mintage total for 2025 MINT SETS and found 188,830
IMO no cents should be produced in 2026 or beyond. (The real losers may be the buyers of the omega cents - I think that’s where the real travesty lies.) One could argue that the omega cents were the last of the “circulated” cents, but none were made for circulation, so they are commemoratives of a sort. (?) What then are the cents of 2026 and beyond? The 1776/2026 cents might be treated as commemoratives as well, but then what of 2027+ cents if this trend continues? What we have here is a numismatic mess designed to extract money from hobbyists and speculators. A real shame.
I agree . I can see this year with the duel date , after that....... NO
Sounds insincere.
The Mint struck at least 1.34 Billion (with a b) circulating cents for 2025. They're (sort of) all over the place now. The Omega's were the last ones to hit the press - by hand...
The cent's of 2026 and beyond are considered numismatic/commemoratives(?) that go into collector sets, even though (arguably), they are produced in the same manner in which the circulating cents were struck.
How come no one calls for them to stop minting Kennedy Halves?
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I think it's just poor decision-making limiting the mintage to 190,000 P & D cents dated 1776-2026. The 250 anniversary of the USA! Millions of people and kids sadly won't get to have them. There's something really tragically wrong with the Patriotic consciousness of this country/ nation/system. US Mint needs to be petitioned into making two coin sets so everyone can celebrate the 250th birthday of the USA!!
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
The $124.50 1776~2026 Unc sets & $245 Silver Proof sets & $107 Clad Proof Sets continue to pop up in stock.
I've added a few more subscriptions the last few days, but not the clad proofs.
420k mintage makes me sad to acquire clad.
But clad set is probably the best deal at $107 with 420k made.
I have 25 Unc. set's ..... 6 silver proofs and 3 clad proofs on order.
The way I see it , If I don't care for them , I will send them back
At the moment I'm signed up for 11 Uncs, 8 Silver proofs, zero clad sets and a few other 250th subscriptions.
All are subject to change if I see mint mintage shenanigans as release dates grow close or I come across something else I'd rather acquire.
Good call ! Let's see how it play's out ?
Actually, no. While they are all rip-offs, $124.50 for something with a mintage of 190K and two unique cents unavailable elsewhere is a FAR better deal than $107 for 420K with only one unique cent unavailable elsewhere. Not close, if you are chasing NCLT cents.
You are, of course, correct. But it's just not gonna happen after they jacked up the price of the uncirculated sets from $33.25 to $124.50. They want people to celebrate the 250th birthday of the USA by buying $173 proof ASEs.
And all of the other really expensive, limited mintage items they have planned for this year. Not by obtaining a readily available annual set of circulating coinage, including cents and half dollars that don't actually circulate.
My guess: it costs less than 50 cents to make them. (??).
I certainly haven’t seen any in change for some time, although I’m pretty much cashless these days.
That really wasn't the point. They are getting far more than 1 cent for the non-circulating cents in the Mint sets, yet you want them to stop making those because they stopped making them for circulation. They essentially stopped making half dollars for circulation a decade ago and only make them for collectors, yet you aren't calling for a stop to that practice.
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Clad proof sets at 420k plus Silver Proof sets at 151k = 571,000+ proof 1776~2026 S Cents.
I agree with you the Unc sets are best one offer collectable due to presentation limited to 190k Cents pair that are Non Circulating Legal Tender, NCLT. That's why I keep adding them when I can at $124.50, which I agree is crazy money. And ever since Mint started lasering proof dies over a decade ago I prefer UNC finish. But .999 fractional silvers are proof only & new to me as I had not paid attention. This issue seems to have much more potential value if silver continues to move higher and I have been led to believe 1776~2026 is a one year and done issue. I cannot buy into 1776~2026 ASE $ with 500k max planned mintage, especially if silver's head room is an illusion and it tanks back into mid $30s an ounce.
I have learned much more about the USMINT collectable ordering system due to this helpful community and constant interaction with the Mint website. Up till now I've been a one & done purchaser. Mostly I've been a none & done as I do not collect normal Mint products, just really been an error coin collector since 1979. But the FOMO of living through another dual dated collectable era reminds me of being a kid when 1976 two year run of collectables happened. That was fun times & reminds me of fond memories of my parents. I inherited all those Mint products still in mailing envelopes with addresses we lived at decades ago.
Happy Hump Day !
Lindy
The mint made 34 million half dollars for circulation last year. Not sure what the collector population is, but..,.
BTW I agree that minting half dollars does seem a waste.
Only place I see half dollars is at a casino to pay $7.50 on a $5.00 black jack. Some casinos do have a $.50 chip.