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(Why) did the Comex remove the circuit breakers on gold and silver?

jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was watching a video on the drop in gold & silver prices on a site that seems to lean libertarian, and one of the points that the technical guy was that the Comex didn't activate their "circuit breakers" for gold & silver this past week when the crash was in progress. (Comex didn't activate the circuit breakers on the way up either, as far as I know.)

This begs the question "Why Not?" The whole idea behind circuit breakers is to maintain an orderly market, right?

So, Comex can keep raising the margin requirements on their contracts and they can change how the margin requirements are calculated in order to dampen a price rise (and to maintain an orderly market), but for some reason Comex didn't deploy the circuit breakers in the midst of the biggest moves, both up and down in the history of the silver and gold markets.

It's almost like someone knew what was going to happen and was possibly engineering an "event". Some will say it's another conspiracy theory in the making, but is there a good answer?

Your thoughts?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3n3lhFNDU2M&pp=ygUTcmVhbCBlc3RhdGUgbWluZHNldA%3D%3D

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    good question. don't know

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be frustrating if someone had a stop at say $75's that was hit only to see it end at $85.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    do they even exist?

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like another youtube conspiracy:

    RGDS!

  • nagsnags Posts: 903 ✭✭✭✭

    Other circuit breakers are set events when some objective measure is hit. Does comex have one? Hard to believe it’s discretionary.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nags said:
    Other circuit breakers are set events when some objective measure is hit. Does comex have one? Hard to believe it’s discretionary.

    COMEX circuit breakers only trigger fire metals if there is a 10% decline in a 60 minute period and it is a pause. They never triggered Friday because the decline was slow and orderly. The market opened at $100 and took approximately 3 hours to get to $90. From $90 (around noon), it didn't breach $81 until about 1:30. From $81, it never got to $73.

    No conspiracy. No manipulation. No failure to act.

    [NOTE: I used rough numbers. If anyone wants to dig deeper, go ahead. ]

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    I was watching a video on the drop in gold & silver prices on a site that seems to lean libertarian, and one of the points that the technical guy was that the Comex didn't activate their "circuit breakers" for gold & silver this past week when the crash was in progress. (Comex didn't activate the circuit breakers on the way up either, as far as I know.)

    This begs the question "Why Not?" The whole idea behind circuit breakers is to maintain an orderly market, right?

    So, Comex can keep raising the margin requirements on their contracts and they can change how the margin requirements are calculated in order to dampen a price rise (and to maintain an orderly market), but for some reason Comex didn't deploy the circuit breakers in the midst of the biggest moves, both up and down in the history of the silver and gold markets.

    It's almost like someone knew what was going to happen and was possibly engineering an "event". Some will say it's another conspiracy theory in the making, but is there a good answer?

    Your thoughts?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=3n3lhFNDU2M&pp=ygUTcmVhbCBlc3RhdGUgbWluZHNldA%3D%3D

    COMEX circuit breakers only trigger fire metals if there is a 10% decline in a 60 minute period and it is a pause. They never triggered Friday because the decline was slow and orderly. The market opened at $100 and took approximately 3 hours to get to $90. From $90 (around noon), it didn't breach $81 until about 1:30. From $81, it never got to $73.

    No conspiracy. No manipulation. No failure to act.

    [NOTE: I used rough numbers. If anyone wants to dig deeper, go ahead. ]

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @nags said:
    Other circuit breakers are set events when some objective measure is hit. Does comex have one? Hard to believe it’s discretionary.

    COMEX circuit breakers only trigger fire metals if there is a 10% decline in a 60 minute period and it is a pause. They never triggered Friday because the decline was slow and orderly. The market opened at $100 and took approximately 3 hours to get to $90. From $90 (around noon), it didn't breach $81 until about 1:30. From $81, it never got to $73.

    Isn't that convenient. Sounds orderly and organized. LOL

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @nags said:
    Other circuit breakers are set events when some objective measure is hit. Does comex have one? Hard to believe it’s discretionary.

    COMEX circuit breakers only trigger fire metals if there is a 10% decline in a 60 minute period and it is a pause. They never triggered Friday because the decline was slow and orderly. The market opened at $100 and took approximately 3 hours to get to $90. From $90 (around noon), it didn't breach $81 until about 1:30. From $81, it never got to $73.

    Isn't that convenient. Sounds orderly and organized. LOL

    Or it was simply gradual like market moves often are. You should put the tin foil in your safe, it might run up next.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 1, 2026 9:41PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @derryb said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @nags said:
    Other circuit breakers are set events when some objective measure is hit. Does comex have one? Hard to believe it’s discretionary.

    COMEX circuit breakers only trigger fire metals if there is a 10% decline in a 60 minute period and it is a pause. They never triggered Friday because the decline was slow and orderly. The market opened at $100 and took approximately 3 hours to get to $90. From $90 (around noon), it didn't breach $81 until about 1:30. From $81, it never got to $73.

    Isn't that convenient. Sounds orderly and organized. LOL

    Or it was simply gradual like market moves often are. You should put the tin foil in your safe, it might run up next.

    a drop from $121.59 to $75 in four hours and 15 minutes on Friday was far from a "gradual" market move. LOL

    again, while not gradual it was just under the "circuit breaker" radar. coincidence? highly unlikely. the engineering behind it probably required a degree from MIT.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2026 6:15AM

    Last night, silver futures dropped over 10%, no circuit breaker. However, margin requirements were raised once again.

    At the same time, JPM managed to short the market at the high and bought those contracts back at the low.

    What a coincidence.

    Concurrently Xi has publicly expressed China's desire to hold the world's reserve currency.

    Another coincidence?

    Foreign entities are taking delivery and the metals are leaving the country.

    Good info:

    https://youtu.be/f8-7LbA_i2A

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 40,060 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    Last night, silver futures dropped over 10%, no circuit breaker. However, margin requirements were raised once again.

    At the same time, JPM managed to short the market at the high and bought those contracts back at the low.

    What a coincidence.

    Concurrently Xi has publicly expressed China's desire to hold the world's reserve currency.

    Another coincidence?

    Foreign entities are taking delivery and the metals are leaving the country.

    Good info:

    https://youtu.be/f8-7LbA_i2A

    That wasn't on COMEX. And the drop has to take place in a 60 minute period.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    so if properly planned and executed there can be a massive drop with no circuit breakers. True dat. LOL

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • GoldFinger1969GoldFinger1969 Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2, 2026 8:54AM

    jmski52, you are just making stuff up, speculating, or posting stuff that is market irrelevant.

    Show us where JP Morgan shorted the market. You can't.

    Gee, Xi wants to hold the reserve currency. Who doesn't ? Does Xi also want transparency, private property rights, free movement of capital and labor, an end to capital controls, and rule of law while giving up 1-party dictator control ? :D

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

    jmski52, you are just making stuff up, speculating, or posting stuff that is market irrelevant.

    I already posted the link. Go find it.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldFinger1969 said:
    jmski52, you are just making stuff up, speculating, or posting stuff that is market irrelevant.

    Show us where JP Morgan shorted the market. You can't.

    JPM runs one of the largest (volume) bullion desks in the futures market. You can safely assume that it is involved in spot price changes.

    When gold and silver move together, it signals the coming end of fiat money.

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CME increased margin requirements from 11% to 15% on Saturday to take effect at the closing today. So you would need to come up with about $58K to cover each contract by the end of today.

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