Belichick NOT elected to the HOF on his 1st ballot!
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Maybe I'm missing something here but if he doesn't have the credentials to get in as a coach that is a travesty!
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It has nothing to do with his credentials
Ofcourse it has everything to do with his God complex and how he punked off the entire NFL over and over again for years
HOFs have become a joke. it is all political. it needs to somehow be more objective and less subjective.
if BB doesnt have the credentials to be a first ballot HOFer, no coach who ever did it does either.
HOF election should never come down to whether or not a voter personally liked or disliked the player/coach
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Belichick has cemented his reputation for one of the cheatingest coaches in the NFL.
And his public relationship with that student probably aren't helping his legacy either.
Llamas and alpacas are camels. They aren't like camels, or related. They are camels. When was anyone going to tell me this?! How long had Bill Nye been holding out on us?
Its all about off field stuff where some of the voters didnt feel hes worthy of being a first ballot. Ive always found the first ballot thing stupid, you either are or you arent but its another one of those situations of he was mean to us and mean to people that has destroyed the legitimacy of HOFs
Fire AJ Preller
can we please round up all halls of fame, pour gasoline on them and light a match
https://nypost.com/2026/01/27/sports/bill-belichick-falls-short-of-hall-of-fame-in-bewildering-first-ballot-vote/
Bill Belichick falls short of Hall of Fame in bewildering first-ballot vote
It’s hard to argue that Bill Belichick isn’t a Hall of Fame coach — he just won’t be on his first attempt.
Belichick shockingly fell short of the 40 out of 50 votes needed to be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame during his first year of eligibility, ESPN reported Tuesday.
Belichick was said to be “puzzled” and “disappointed” upon hearing the news, several sources told the Worldwide Leader on Tuesday.
The HOF committee made fools out of themselves. 👎
Seriously. Incubus should be in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame. It's not even worth the argument. I will die on this hill.
Belichick will enter the HOF because he deserves to be there but the politics will always be a part of it. The voters can have their say with this denial, they can’t say anything after he’s elected.
Actually, it might be cool if he’s denied for one more year. Then he can be enshrined at the same ceremony as Tom Brady.
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Yup, another HOF example of idiocy. No coach is a HOFer if he isn't. What more do you want lol.
Will be interesting to see if any controversy talks come up with Brady's enshrinement. Tying him in with Bill. To taint the proceedings. Can't see a delay in his being voted in on a first ballot.
I usually follow the hall of fame voting in both baseball and football, very closely. I cannot recall any time where the voting was leaked ahead of the official announcement; making this unprecedented.
Further, you have one voter; Bill Polian, who supposedly cannot remember if he voted for Bill Belichick at all; and the voting took place around two weeks ago.
So, I just wonder how the hall of fame and the NFL will respond to all of this.
Personally, I have never liked the fact that coaches and "contributors" have to compete against the players for enshrinement. This year you have five men (Belichick, Bob Kraft, Ken Anderson, Roger Craig and L.C. Greenwood) eligible, and only three slots; so two of them can't make it. Who do you not vote for? Coaches and Contributors should have their own category, and should not have to compete against players.
Steve
If Polians memory is that bad he shouldnt be voting, hes full of it.
The limitations are flat out stupid. You either belong or you dont and if some years its a big class and others its 1 guy oh well thats just how it worked out
Fire AJ Preller
Yup.....
The hall of fame is not happy:
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/pro-football-hall-fame-issues-warning-voters-amid-bill-belichick-snub-outrage
I presume it's because of the leak of the voting results re: Belichick and now Eli Manning.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/eli-manning-not-voted-pro-football-hall-fame-second-straight-year-report
Steve
Induct Eli Manning same day as Bill and Tom. Imagine the moments at that ceremony.
I heard rumor this morning on the radio that some feel Kraft is behind it. He did not want to share his possible HOF induction with BB so he exerted pressure on Polian (who now says he cannot remember who he voted for 10 days ago...) to rally support for holding off on BB's election until next year.
what a tangled web they weave!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I LOVE this!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
It's hard to understand why everyone is wetting their pants over this.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
ok i view this differently now after hearing from a voter who didn't check the box for Belichick
no part of me could understand why any voter would omit BB. but after reading what this guy said, it is understandable. any ire should be directed toward the process, not the voters. now that i'm aware of all the deets, it's the voting process itself that should be lit on fire.
you guys read this short article when you have time and let me know what you think
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/hall-of-fame-voter-explains-why-he-didn-t-vote-for-bill-belichick/ar-AA1VctaK?ocid=BingNewsSerp
It shouldn’t matter, but I think if BB was a more likable person that he’d have gotten in. There are fans and media that he alienated over the years with his sour attitude and he’s reaping the fruits of that now.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I agree completely!
There don't seem to bee too many (any?) rules about getting in. So it would seem to be a popularity contest.
He was fined for "SpyGate" and I'm sure that cost him some votes.
Bill will be OK.
100% why he didn't get in
And it's a big deal because the guy coached 8 Super Bowls, you know it's going to be a big story and rightfully so
How can you agree that it shouldn't be a big deal?
Personally I don't care and to be honest I don't like the guy, if the argument is spygate and cheating then sure I can understand some guys holding that against him but either way it should be a hot button topic and it's worthy of a discussion
If it we were talking about Barry Switzer then it shouldn't be much of a topic but Bill Belichick's resume is better than any other coach inducted into the HOF based on NFL coaching on first ballot and that isn't even debatable
@perkdog said: Bill Belichick's resume is better than any other coach inducted into the HOF based on NFL coaching on first ballot and that isn't even debatable.
@perkdog, are you trying to channel
stevek with the “isn’t even debatable” pronouncement?? Of course it’s debatable. And there are many of us who don’t see BB as the GOAT HC.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
The only "debatable" part is how big a jack-arze are the idiots who left Belichick off the ballot.
I'm curious how anyone can debate any NFL head coach being more successful than Hoodie
Please inform me and we can then debate it lol
I'm not debating that he is the GOAT btw, but credentials wise no other HC put in on the first ballot has a better resume
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Steve, read that article i posted above
i felt the exact same way you did, but then i read the words of someone who didn't vote for him and i understood how he reached that conclusion
the process needs a tweak job, to say the least
I'd love to see Ken Anderson get in, well deserving and criminally underrated QB
Paging @dallasactuary
I had read that article, I think it was yesterday. In my opinion it's a BS excuse.
I'd provide what I believe is the real reason behind the snubs, but then I might end-up behind bars in CU prison again. The prison food wasn't all that bad, although the bread tasted like 2.5" x 3.5" cardboard for some reason. 😉
Well said, but you left out GOAT!
i like you and you're one of my favorite posters, but i vehemently disagree. if i was placed in a situation as a voter where i wasn't allowed to simply say "yes" or "no" is it pertained to someone's hall candidacy, i can vididly see how it would get very convoluted. Craig, Anderson, and Greenwood were famers imo. i watched all of them play. why in the living hell are they bundled up with a coach and an owner of a franchise? those dudes retired a LONG TIME AGO, and it's a travesty that they've been on the outside looking in for SO LONG. so if they run the risk of fading into oblivion before receiving the accolades they so richly deserve, i'm going to focus my attention on them instead of a man who will undoubtedly be enshrined one day if you're going to lump him in.
no voter should be put in that position. really? you're going to give me 5 but i can only pick 3? and the 5 consists of 3 guys who have been retired for decades and are being buried by the year, along with an owner and a coach who will, without question, be in the hall one day?
dude that's a predicament that no voter should ever be faced with. the process is asinine and needs to be overhauled.
I never stated or thought for a second your premise was incorrect. That being said, this is Bill Belichick on the ballot for crying out loud. Many say he is the GOAT and it's tough to disagree with them. Yes I realize there was Lombardi, etc, etc, etc. But Belichick excelled beyond belief in this NFL era of caps, more teams, etc. For that reason, in my view, Belichick is the GOAT NFL head coach.
Now, someone such as this, a GOAT, ya simply gotta put everything else aside, fair or unfair to other candidates, and vote for anyone such as this. Really not that complicated in my view, unless there are ulterior motives involved, non-football related, which I believe there were.
@perkdog said: I'm curious how anyone an debate any NFL head coach being more successful than Hoodie•
Please inform me and we can then debate it lol
I'm not debating that he is the GOAT btw, but credentials wise no other HC put in on the first ballot has a better resume.
Not really interested in a debate, but a point of fact is that BB wasn’t put in and I’ll give a nam of a HC who was.
Don Shula.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
The only and I mean only remotely rational argument would be that anyone could have coached Brady. Its a terrible argument and Monday morning quarterbacking
Even the cheating argument wouldnt make sense because Brady will get in and he got suspended for it
Their voting process is messed up but there are rumors Kraft might have played a role not wanting to be the same ballot with their falling out
Fire AJ Preller
I read about the rumor involving Kraft, and in my opinion, it's completely ridiculous.
Lots of greats didn't get in on the first try.
Guys like Killebrew and DiMaggio waited YEARS to get in. Killebrew was 5th ALL TIME in career Home Runs at the time and one of the nicest guys to ever play. DiMaggio might have been the GOAT Center Fielder when he retired, with 3 MVP's and 9 Championships.
Viking Paul Krauss still holds the all time interception record with 81 and waited 20 years to get in.
Sorry, I can't get too worked up about Bill being snubbed. I don't really care about his personality, but wasn't he a MAJOR A hole? I read up a little on the SpyGate thing. Supposedly went on for several years?
Since there's apparently no "sportsmanship" requirement for the football HOF,_ I would have voted for him_.
It's just not THAT BIG of a deal to me.
I dont have a strong opinion on it. I wouldnt be shocked either way. We do know theres that one guy pretending to not know how he voted so maybe loyalty played a role. Either way its just dumb
Fire AJ Preller
If you honestly believe Don Shula's resume is better then Belichick's then I wouldn't have any interest in debating this with you anyways
I double and triple checked Shula's numbers against Belichick's and I just don't see where your coming from on that
But either way your entitled to your opinion like everyone else
I will add this though..
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Yes he was known to be a an A Hole and in my opinion he de valued many many players and ruined a lot of players careers, as I said I couldn't stand the guy and don't care either way
I just feel it was the wrong move to not put him in since his legacy at the HC position speaks for itself if you take the personality out of it
I know in sports it's a personality thing, they kept Mays out on first ballot as well I think or Mantle? Casino involvement I can't remember?
For some reason I thought Mantle was not voted in on first ballot but I was wrong he was suspended for 2 years because of casino affiliation but this was after he retired
We live in a different era that began to change sometime in the late 1960’s early 1970’s. A player’s private life and things aside from on field performance suddenly were a basis for exclusion. It was the beginning of Political Correctness.
I tend not to agree with that thinking and it saddens me that it began with my generation. Quite a number of our childhood idols might have a hard time getting into a HOF today. Conversely, BB would have been unanimous in 1970.
Two other non-first ballot HOF’ers who I believe eclipse BB:
Vince Lombardi
Paul Brown
Belichick is safe and in good company.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I would put Belichick no higher than #4 on the all-time list, behind at least Paul Brown, Don Shula and George Halas.
In the entire history of pro football, only two teams have gone undefeated over an entire season, winning the championship.
The 1948 Cleveland Browns (AAFC) went 14-0. Their head coach was Paul Brown.
The 1972 Miami Dolphins (NFL) went 17-0. Their head coach was Don Shula.
In 2007, the Patriots went to the Super Bowl with an 18-0 record; they could have been the best team ever. But they lost to the NY Giants; when they had the chance, Belichick and the Patriots couldn't seal the deal. The Patriots scored their fewest points (14) in any game all season. You could say they were unprepared; that the coaches let them go in over-confident).
Paul Brown had an overall record of 213-104-9, for a .672 winning pct. His teams won 7 championships (3 in the NFL).
Don Shula had an overall record of 328-156-6, for a .677 winning pct. His teams won 3 championships
George Halas had an overall record of 318-148-31, for a .682 winning pct. His teams won 6 championships.
Bill Belichick had an overall record of 302-165-0, for a .647 winning pct. His teams one 6 championships.
Paul Brown had a higher winning pct., and his teams won more championships than Belichick.
George Halas had the highest winning pct. of all 4 coaches, and he won the same number of championships as Belichick.
Belichick had the lowest winning pct. of the 4.
Of Shula, Halas and Belichick, Belichick had the fewest wins, most losses, and the lowest winning pct. Halas had the highest winning pct. and tied with Belichick for most championships.
Even if you include the post-season in each coach's winning pct., Belichick finishes last:
Halas - 324-151-31 - .682
Shula - 347-173-6 - .667
Brown - 222-112-9 - .665
Belichick - 333-178-0 - .652
If you want to go post-season win pct. among HOF coaches:
Vince Lombardi - 9-1 - .900
Weeb Ewbank - 4-1 - .800
Greasy Neale - 3-1 - .750
Tom Flores - 8-3 - .727
Bill Walsh - 10-4 - .714
Joe Gibbs - 17-7 - .708
Belichick - 31-13 - .705
Steve
It really comes down to that super bowl loss to the Giants. If the Patriots had won it and completed the 19-0 undefeated season, Belichick would have the most championships, and a perfect season by the greatest team ever; but they didn't win. He could have been, unarguably the greatest head coach of all-time. As it is, I would consider Halas the greatest ever.
Steve
Bill Belichick won a lot of games and a lot of Championships, that cannot be denied. He was very, very good at preparing his teams and at acquiring players to replace those that he lost. But he didn’t do anything to change how the NFL played. Paul Brown, Tom Landry, Bill Walsh and even Sam Wyche did that and their influence is seen in every game played today.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
He will be enshrined soon. They are playing games.
I count 5 championships not 6 - and two of those were as owner not coach?
According to Pro-Football-Reference.Com, Halas won six NFL championships as coach of the Chicago Staleys/Bears: 1921, 1933, 1940, 1941, 1946 and 1963.
In 1920 and 1921, the league was called the American Professional Football Association. It was renamed to the National Football League in 1922, so the records for 1920 and 1921 count as NFL stats; it was the same league, just with a different name. Also, remember that in 1994, the NFL celebrated it's 75th season; 1920 - 1994 = 75 seasons.
Steve