PLZ HELP... 1970-S PR 67 Red Large Date Lincoln Cent (DDO, DDR)??
mikescomputer
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Thanks for reading. mikescomputer here. Plz help. I sent a 1970-S Large Date Lincoln Cent to PCGS for grading. It came back "PR67 RED". There was no error attribution. I did not ask for error attribution. After sending the coin, I was looking at photos of it I have and noticed what I think is a DDO, DDR. Will someone that knows PLEASE look at the PCGS photos of this coin and tell me what this is??? Scroll towards the bottom of this page and (PCGS) photos will show 1970-S Large Date Cent PR67 RED. SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS I AM SEEING IS DOUBLING IN THE WORDS "GOD, TRUST, THE 1, 7, & 0 IN THE DATE, LIBERTY", On the reverse there is what looks like to me doubling in the columns and elsewhere. Am I nuts?? RSPV Thank you!!
PS. MY COIN IS NOT A PROOF EITHER. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROOF COIN. https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1970-s-1c-large-date-dcam/93430 ON MY COIN THE FEATURES ARE NOT FROSTED ENOUGH TO BE A PROOF AND MY COIN CAME FROM A BANK IN SUFFOLK VIRGINIA 45 YEARS AGO AND WENT FROM THE TELLERS' ENVELOPE INTO A CARDBOARD FLIP WHERE IT STAYED FOR 45 YEARS. I GOT TWO AT THE SAME TIME BUT THE OTHER ONE DOES NOT EXHIBIT THE SAME "DOUBLING" CHARACTERISTICS??? HOW CAN IT BE A "PROOF" COIN IF IT CAME FROM A BANK TELLERS' CASH DRAWER? Do you think this is a "proof"??
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You'll have to tell us. You're seeing things that are not there, in any case. There is no DDO and no DDR. Take your time and learn how doubled dies are made and what they actually look like before you look for any other varieties. No point in looking for anything else until you do that. You can then go to varietyvista.com to check their listings of known doubled die varieties as needed.
Your coin:
Yes, your coin is a proof.
After your further edits and comments, I am changing my advice. Forget about doubled dies altogether and start filling a Whitman folder. This will be for your own enjoyment and you will not have to worry at all about varieties, strike types, or sending coins in for grading.
that is the coinfacts page for: 1970-S 1C Large Date, DCAM (Proof)
there are pictures on that page
we need pictures of your coin, unless the above is your coin(?)
"Proof" is a method of manufacture, not a condition.
Modern proof coins are always frosted (except reverse and satin proofs), but older proof coins will only be frosted if they were among the first struck from new proof dies.
The obvious answer is that someone spent some proof coins.
As for doubled dies, they don't just appear randomly. If you think you have a DD your first step should be to consult online resources to see if DDs exist for that date/mintmark.
The coin above is his. He originally gave the cert number:
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/61421760
ok. the coinfacts plate coin is for a deep cameo (dcam) coin
yours is graded correctly as neither a cameo nor deep cameo. it is just a proof coin
it is definitely a proof
where do yoy think you see a ddo or ddr? can you put an arrow on it or circle it? i'll wait for this
i agree it is possible for someone to have spent a proof coin
It is a very ordinary 1970-S proof that someone must have spent. The teller then spotted it and saved it.
Look at "GOD" and "TRUST" ESPECIALLY THE S IN TRUST AND BETWEEN THE COLUMNS ON THE REVERSE
You are seeing reflections from the lighting, happens often with proofs due to the reflective nature of the surface. The rev is part of the design, if you have never been to the Lincoln memorial there are columns at the back of the memorial interior just like those in the front. Those were incorporated into the coin design. Your coin is a normal proof coin that should never have been sent for grading as its value is lower than the cost to grade. Here is just one of many recent sales of coins like yours on ebay, you likely paid this in shipping costs alone.
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