Bonds might be one of the most underrated players in history!
1948_Swell_Robinson
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Back then Bonds was 'penalized' by the baseball world because he was a high strike out lower batting average player...yet regardless of how people felt, what he actually contributed to a team is not a matter of how people felt, but rather how many runs the player was responsible for.
Bonds's Run Expectancy(which includes baserunning) is far more reliable than an opinion or a feeling to show what Bonds was truly responsible for compared to a league average player.
Bonds Run Expectancy was 390 runs above average.
For comparisons with other HOF(or potential HOF) from nearby eras:
Cepeda 389
Baines 348
D. Murphy 339
Oliva 315
Dawson 280
Puckett 279
Rice 277
Brock 276
Mattingly 247
Win Probability added shows what a player's performance meant in terms of runs/wins and within the context of the game score(winning).
Bonds WPA 38.6
He's ahead of all those guys on the RE list in this measurement too.
What the baseball world DID value back then was runs scored, and with a career average of 110 runs scored per 162 games, that is also elite either way you slice it... and was better than the 100 per 162 that the 'elite' table setter Lou Brock put up.
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I think he was overlooked when he first came up because Mays and McCovey were on those Giants teams.
I assume you are talking about Bobby Bonds and not his son?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Yes he is talking Bobby. I don’t know if he was trying to fool people by not saying the first name. 🤔
I know you’re talking Bobby but Barry was a HOFer before his steroid era. That’s all. Carry on.
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I think when you change species mid career it kind of disqualifies you for any HOF consideration.
Hey, Groce, what set is that from?
hey ya Landry...
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Thanks!
Not really trying to fool anyone, but I was definitely making a play on the name for the title of the thread