Just noticed, out of the loop a little, but 1989 fleer unopened baseball
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is selling for $90 a box? Donruss is around $30, Topps $20. Any idea what's going on? the donruss griffey sells for multiples of the 1989 fleer.
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FF error is more valuable, Randy Johnson "Marlboro visible" too.
Also, no one is getting a good quality Griffey jr. out of a donruss box, that is why the pop is half the fleer. If not centering it's corners and edge chipping
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First I’d question is this ASK or SELLING price of those 1989 wax boxes ? $90-100 I’ve seen hundreds ASKING that price - and usually accompanied by some language like “may constrain a uncorrected BR error” - but selling - $50 is more in line with my experience of late.
1989 Fleer is one of the products I like to collect - generally unopened product. Always liked the set and it was my introduction to the hobby years ago. People go absolutely stupid though when it comes to trying to pull a Ripken error and overpay in my experience.
Fact is unless you buy a case produced with a date code of 9025 - it’s highly unlikely you are going to pull a FF error. I know 17 was the supposed cut off - my experience at the time suggest it continued a few days longer. Johnson with the Marlboro sign is much earlier - and Treadway a full 2 weeks before that.
After the error was discovered - there was a full month it felt like that there was NO 616 in packs. Then Fleer started running full sheets of the corrected card so it was 3x more likely to be in a pack than any other card.
People forget how in demand this card was in the day - it was the first $100 card you could pull from a 50 cent pack - literally the first modern chase card. They also forget how funny Fleer distribution was in the day. Getting product as a hobby store or local news stand was near impossible. Fleer cut deals with chain stores and Toys ‘R Us and fed them first it felt like - Rite Aid and Costco always had some locally - but my confectionery vendors never had any. This is important especially when it comes to buying rack/cello packs as these were easily searched - still have my “list” of the collation somewhere printed on my old dot matrix printer. Lots of people made friends with clerks at the retail stores and paid a small “tip” to get first crack at new shipments. Many searched those packs immediately following the public being aware.
Ever since the case codes were cracked and shared on social media groups devoted to 1989 Fleer, boxes have skyrocketed. There are groups I follow where Nov/Dec 88 boxes sell for $350-400. $250 for early Jan 89 (no Randy errors but FF Ripkens).
The Nov/Dec 88 boxes never yield a clear Randy, mostly tints and box versions which hardly sell higher than $50 on a good day. None of it makes sense. But perhaps worse is 1990 Topps sealed prices which is an all or nothing lottery ticket for Thomas with virtually nothing of value to be found beyond it. And no, PSA 10 prices should never be factored into prices of unopened junkwax when you consider how strict PSA is on the entire era.
This is untrue. Treadway is a late run misprint.
I looked at the selling prices $90 - $100. But the Fleer Griffey sells for about half of the Donruss. Donruss boxes $30. The Fleer Griffey should be double the price of the donruss based on pop report, imho. No skin in the game for me.
So you're saying the value is based on the pop? heh
This drives me nuts when looking at junk wax offerings. No PSA 10 will emerge from any box, already slabbed and PSA is harder than ever on this era of cards. If you open a box of 1990 Topps and dont hit the NNOF, you have $5 worth of cards, not whatever the total of potential PSA 10s is.
Just like lottery tickets
There are 10s being given out for the era, they are just going up I95 a bit. Census Medians must be maintained
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1990 Topps is a really great baseball card set. If you open a box of 1990 Topps, you should take it for granted that you're not going to open a NNOF Frank Thomas.
I don't know if I'm lucky or cursed that the sets from when I was in high school are considered so crappy in the hobby. Pretty much every card from my childhood is considered junk.
1990 Topps is among my favorite junk wax sets, design and nostalgia wise. I just mean that it isnt loaded with opportunities to justify $100/box its getting due to the lottery shot at the NNOF. Some junk Topps sets do have several rare variations and even minor variations that can add a little value to the break (1991 Topps, for example).
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Ok - so picked up another rack case of ‘89 Fleer the other day for $330.
I’m a little leery of this one - factory seal is there - but one side is a little loose. It’s only on that one side though and would be tough to pull product from the box without further damage to the carton.
This one also has NO production date code.
Now the big question - what to do with it ?
Thought of sending to BBCE - then ripping one box just to see if any errors. Of course the other 2 aren’t worth more than corrected as wrapped boxes because of the missing date code. But then I figured it’s probably $100 between grading/shipping cost - why not just take the chance and enjoy a weekend of opening packs like I’m 14 again.
Is this case the variety that has the red lettering on the outside of the case instead of the normal blue?
Blue - 3 rack box (equal to 6 wax boxes worth).
Not sure I’ve seen any in racks on red - did they do 6 box racks in red ?
I know the wax case I have stashed is red. But the 3 racks I now have are all blue.
I have two rack cases that don't have the standard blue lettering. They have red lettering, just say Baseball Rack Pack on the outside, and don't have the standard production code on them.
Interesting- will look into this more. I’m far from an expert on packaging of the 89 Fleer.
I’m also noticing pricing getting stupider by the day on what I collect of the era.
My main buys have always been ‘87 Donruss, ‘89 Fleer and UD and then ‘87 Fleer and ‘90 Score when the price is right.
Now I’m seeing ‘90 score for example at $75+ a box and ‘89 Fleer at the century mark - to me that’s nuts. Case prices are even getting worse. Sucks that I finally win a few bucks - think maybe I’ll buy some more for the stash and find people pricing a case of 1990 score at 2k or a ‘89 Fleer with a corrected date code at $2500 ! Those used to be $500 and 900-1k finds all day long. Don’t know if I should sell what I have now or just keep holding.