@jmski52 said: Do reliable historical numbers for 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars even exist?
The only reliable historical numbers that matter exist on my spreadsheet, and I'm still stunned by the values. I know within a tenth of a percent how well each purchase that I've made at each specific point in time has done.
I'm blown away by the change in my net worth, even accounting for any discounts or premiums when I decide to sell. My biggest financial problem is capital gains tax, which I try to plan around.
Consider owning ETFs in a Roth IRA for future investments in PMs.
Consider owning ETFs in a Roth IRA for future investments in PMs.
No way! But thanks. The whole point of owning physical metals is because of the risk involved in paper and 3rd party solvency. It's not a video game that puts numbers up on a screen. Each to his own, but the "system" is already on very thin ice, and it pays to be prudent with real money.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
Folk should run the return numbers on SLV since inception and on 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars since that same date.
Do reliable historical numbers for 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars even exist?
No.
Sure they do. Just check the BST archives on this forum. Or, and most old-timers on this forum could confirm, the premiums on Silver at the time. 90% was usually 5-10% over spot. ASEs were 10-20% over spot and bars about 10% over spot. Today 90% is 10-15 under spot. ASEs ar about spot and bars about 5% under. Now all you need to do is find spot. Google is your friend.
You said reliable historical numbers. You obviously think this little forum is that.
Meh
The BST is a an archived record. I get it that todays modis operandi today is to rewrite history, but that aint gonna change the facts..
Anybody care to run the numbers? How about the pundits? Afraid?
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I request that NOBODY run the numbers and do the work for @cohodk .
If @cohodk wants to make a point, then he needs to make it himself, and do the work himself.
Getting back to the OP's original intention with this thread - I have a question. I may have a need to sell a quantity of 90% in the near future. It is over $1,200 in face - around $750 in dimes and $475 in quarters. I don't want to deal with shipping it but I also don't have a problem driving to a reputable dealer that's paying top dollar within four hours or so of where I live (central South Carolina). Anyone have any good suggestions? Thanks!
@2ndCharter said:
Getting back to the OP's original intention with this thread - I have a question. I may have a need to sell a quantity of 90% in the near future. It is over $1,200 in face - around $750 in dimes and $475 in quarters. I don't want to deal with shipping it but I also don't have a problem driving to a reputable dealer that's paying top dollar within four hours or so of where I live (central South Carolina). Anyone have any good suggestions? Thanks!
Vermillion Enterprises - Spring Hill, FL (near Tampa) - a coin shop housed in a Victorian Style double story blue stand-alone house. They even have a daily YouTube.
@2ndCharter said:
Getting back to the OP's original intention with this thread - I have a question. I may have a need to sell a quantity of 90% in the near future. It is over $1,200 in face - around $750 in dimes and $475 in quarters. I don't want to deal with shipping it but I also don't have a problem driving to a reputable dealer that's paying top dollar within four hours or so of where I live (central South Carolina). Anyone have any good suggestions? Thanks!
Vermillion Enterprises - Spring Hill, FL (near Tampa) - a coin shop housed in a Victorian Style double story blue stand-alone house. They even have a daily YouTube.
Brian Vermillion stated in today's video ^ that they answer phone calls for the first half hour to forty-five minutes of their business day and then turn the phone OFF. Otherwise, they wouldn't get anything done. BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUPS!
I would make the drive to Spring Hill. Vermillion is very upfront about the current premiums & discounts and they compare favorably with the shop closest to me that I deal with.
However, if you don't need to sell it for a necessary expense, I would recommend keeping ahold of it.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
Folk should run the return numbers on SLV since inception and on 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars since that same date.
Do reliable historical numbers for 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars even exist?
No.
Sure they do. Just check the BST archives on this forum. Or, and most old-timers on this forum could confirm, the premiums on Silver at the time. 90% was usually 5-10% over spot. ASEs were 10-20% over spot and bars about 10% over spot. Today 90% is 10-15 under spot. ASEs ar about spot and bars about 5% under. Now all you need to do is find spot. Google is your friend.
You said reliable historical numbers. You obviously think this little forum is that.
Meh
The BST is a an archived record. I get it that todays modis operandi today is to rewrite history, but that aint gonna change the facts..
Anybody care to run the numbers? How about the pundits? Afraid?
.
I request that NOBODY run the numbers and do the work for @cohodk .
If @cohodk wants to make a point, then he needs to make it himself, and do the work himself.
.
Redneck already did the work. But hes not qualified to speak on this forum. Tis better to love the poorly educated that hate the educated.
Folk should run the return numbers on SLV since inception and on 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars since that same date.
Do reliable historical numbers for 90%, ASEs and 100oz bars even exist?
No.
Sure they do. Just check the BST archives on this forum. Or, and most old-timers on this forum could confirm, the premiums on Silver at the time. 90% was usually 5-10% over spot. ASEs were 10-20% over spot and bars about 10% over spot. Today 90% is 10-15 under spot. ASEs ar about spot and bars about 5% under. Now all you need to do is find spot. Google is your friend.
You said reliable historical numbers. You obviously think this little forum is that.
Meh
The BST is a an archived record. I get it that todays modis operandi today is to rewrite history, but that aint gonna change the facts..
Anybody care to run the numbers? How about the pundits? Afraid?
.
I request that NOBODY run the numbers and do the work for @cohodk .
If @cohodk wants to make a point, then he needs to make it himself, and do the work himself.
.
Redneck already did the work. But hes not qualified to speak on this forum. Tis better to love the poorly educated that hate the educated.
I miss coho...
I miss Coho too. If you find him please be sure to thank him for that PPLT call. Absolutely BOOMIN!™. RGDS!!!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
@jmski52 said:
I would make the drive to Spring Hill. Vermillion is very upfront about the current premiums & discounts and they compare favorably with the shop closest to me that I deal with.
However, if you don't need to sell it for a necessary expense, I would recommend keeping ahold of it.
Ya, in todays video he warned to not call the shop. They are not answering any phone calls as business has absolutely exploded. He talked about in this video that 2011 had nothing on what is happening now. If you can't come into the B&M they want you to e-mail them. No phone calls.
Vermillion is the closest true dealer to me that I know about. Even then, its 2.5 hours from me. Very knowledgeable and not afraid of any deal. Honest as can be out there.
Actually, I am going to be at the FUN show from Wednesday thru Sunday. I called a couple of local South Carolina dealers and the best offer was 38x face. Since I'm flying to the FUN show, I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to stuff it all in my luggage.
@2ndCharter said: And if you time it right, FUN too!
Actually, I am going to be at the FUN show from Wednesday thru Sunday. I called a couple of local South Carolina dealers and the best offer was 38x face. Since I'm flying to the FUN show, I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to stuff it all in my luggage.
I'm not too hopeful about selling 90% silver at FUN. They need to get the bulk home.
At the last FUN show one of the MAJOR dealers said they weren't interested in buying American Arts Commemorative Series 1 oz Gold Medals.
JM Bullion 12/25/2025:
Buy Price:
90% Silver Coins ($1 FV, Pre-65, Unsorted)
Sell To Us Price:
$41.84
Their Sell Price
$10 Roll of pre-64 Washington Qtr:
$526
Merry Christmas 🎄,
Mike
I'm not too hopeful about selling 90% silver at FUN. They need to get the bulk home.
Thought you would like to know that I talked to the folks at Miller's Mint who will be set up at the FUN show and they said they would be happy to take everything I bring and will pay a solid price for it (depending upon the spot price on day I bring it to them).
the two main companies we ship too yesterday was minus 6.50 and minus 7.50 on 90% , there is another place at -5.85 but they take several weeks to get paid. Cant do it, too much coming in, Id be out of money fairly quickly. I am a small shop in a smaller town, and buying 20-30k a day the past few weeks as it is, and actually turning away quite a bit more where the margins are just too tight like 100 oz bars, people who want close to spot, etc,
GENERIC .999 SILVER ROUNDS, BARS - random BUY SPOT -2 SELL AT SPOT
ASE OFF QUALITY or less than full tubes - BUY SPOT SELL SPOT +1
ASE RETAIL FRIENDLY BU FULL TUBES SAME YEAR ONLY - BUY SPOT +2 SELL SPOT + 4
*** NOTES *** on 90%. In his video update he talks about not sending 90% to be melted YET. As he is selling enough to avoid it. TONS coming in and TONS going out!
Bought some Gold from summit Metals last August and just received this a few minutes ago. I’ve never gotten an offer to sell from anyone with price offers. I didn’t even buy silver from them.
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Summit Metals: Summit Metals is buying silver bars Michael. Get top dollar with today's high prices! Almost 90 dollars!
We're paying:
1oz: $84
5oz: $420
10oz: $850
Bid @ $88.20
Sell now. Give us a call 551-550-5519 or email sales@summitmetals.com, or text back!
Text STOP to opt-out
Just stopped by the local hole-in-the-wall LCD. Brought a few ounces of US gold and some silver.
Sold the gold at spot.
They weren’t buying ASEs. Said he had bought 30k of them and can’t move them. There were several sellers in the place. Sounded like it’s been a constant flow of sellers.
@nags said:
Just stopped by the local hole-in-the-wall LCD. Brought a few ounces of US gold and some silver.
Sold the gold at spot.
They weren’t buying ASEs. Said he had bought 30k of them and can’t move them. There were several sellers in the place. Sounded like it’s been a constant flow of sellers.
Weak dealer. They all can move them to wholesalers.
Wholesalers LOVE ASE's. Unless they all nasty culls which would be surprising being 30k worth.. Worst case would be the smelter. Sounds like that's a dealer with no capital. I wouldn't go back there.
@scotty1419 said:
'Cant sell ASEs' is not a phrase I've heard...
I had to spend the better part of yesterday dipping ASEs to rid them of the nasty toning and giving them the ole Weiman's wipe to remove all the ugly milk spots. I got spot -$0.50 and dumped 640 of them. I better get moving on the next batch. LoLZ. Thank god my gold doesn't have such problems. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
@scotty1419 said:
'Cant sell ASEs' is not a phrase I've heard...
I had to spend the better part of yesterday dipping ASEs to rid them of the nasty toning and giving them the ole Weiman's wipe to remove all the ugly milk spots. I got spot -$0.50 and dumped 640 of them. I better get moving on the next batch. LoLZ. Thank god my gold doesn't have such problems. RGDS!
You are dipping ASE's to garnish another buck or two? That's the difference at a REAL DEALER hahahah insane
I'll add a couple data points from Southeast Michigan coin shops: one is paying 58x face for 90%, while the other is paying 55x - while melt is a skosh over 69x. What are others seeing?
Vermillion Enterprises, FL 2/13 UPDATE. These guys aren't huge, but they are as professional as can be. No ridiculous spreads like being cited recently here by some from unnamed shops on this forum recently...
GENERIC .999 SILVER ROUNDS, BARS - random BUY SPOT -2 SELL AT SPOT +2
ASE OFF QUALITY or less than full tubes - BUY SPOT -2 SELL SPOT +1
ASE RETAIL FRIENDLY BU FULL TUBES SAME YEAR ONLY - BUY SPOT +2 SELL SPOT + 6
@softparade said:
Vermillion Enterprises, FL 2/13 UPDATE. These guys aren't huge, but they are as professional as can be. No ridiculous spreads like being cited recently here by some from unnamed shops on this forum recently...
GENERIC .999 SILVER ROUNDS, BARS - random BUY SPOT -2 SELL AT SPOT +2
ASE OFF QUALITY or less than full tubes - BUY SPOT -2 SELL SPOT +1
ASE RETAIL FRIENDLY BU FULL TUBES SAME YEAR ONLY - BUY SPOT +2 SELL SPOT + 6
SOLID ^^^^ give them a shout!
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From what I am seeing, if a person wanted to buy Silver Eagles, that is the lowest price by quite a bit (+1 or +6).
Their sell price for them (+1 for off-quality) is lower than their "Generic" 999 silver sell price (which is +2).
That makes me wonder about the accuracy of those numbers.
@softparade said:
Vermillion Enterprises, FL 2/13 UPDATE. These guys aren't huge, but they are as professional as can be. No ridiculous spreads like being cited recently here by some from unnamed shops on this forum recently...
GENERIC .999 SILVER ROUNDS, BARS - random BUY SPOT -2 SELL AT SPOT +2
ASE OFF QUALITY or less than full tubes - BUY SPOT -2 SELL SPOT +1
ASE RETAIL FRIENDLY BU FULL TUBES SAME YEAR ONLY - BUY SPOT +2 SELL SPOT + 6
SOLID ^^^^ give them a shout!
.
From what I am seeing, if a person wanted to buy Silver Eagles, that is the lowest price by quite a bit (+1 or +6).
Their sell price for them (+1 for off-quality) is lower than their "Generic" 999 silver sell price (which is +2).
That makes me wonder about the accuracy of those numbers.
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
Another superb and transparent pricing/spread update by Vermillion Enterprises in FL today! Plus, disco on goings on in the industry .... the GOOD the BAD and the UGLY. They do it nearly every day. I URGE all of you to find a similar source more local to you! So, we can get away from what have been historically AWFUL content from a very loud minority here with unverified tales of walking into shops that always go unnamed and undocumented.
Imagine that! Transparent BUY & SELL spreads to the PUBLIC on the regular. THAT's a professional DEALER! THEY ARE OUT THERE!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
@Metalsman said:
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
@Metalsman said:
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows". RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
@Metalsman said:
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows". RGDS!
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Do you actually think that anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum ?
Vermillion appears to have realistic buy/sell spreads, unlike the fantasy shops you always talk about but never name.
@Metalsman said:
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows". RGDS!
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Do you actually think that anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum ?
Vermillion appears to have realistic buy/sell spreads, unlike the fantasy shops you always talk about but never name.
@jmski52 said: Consider owning ETFs in a Roth IRA for future investments in PMs.
No way! But thanks. The whole point of owning physical metals is because of the risk involved in paper and 3rd party solvency. It's not a video game that puts numbers up on a screen. Each to his own, but the "system" is already on very thin ice, and it pays to be prudent with real money.
Unfortunately, you can't own physical metals outright in a Roth IRA.
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows".
@Metalsman said:
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows". RGDS!
.
Do you actually think that anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum ?
Vermillion appears to have realistic buy/sell spreads, unlike the fantasy shops you always talk about but never name.
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Do you actually think anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum?
Please stick with defacing historical coins and your little fantasy tokens. THKS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
@jmski52 said: Consider owning ETFs in a Roth IRA for future investments in PMs.
No way! But thanks. The whole point of owning physical metals is because of the risk involved in paper and 3rd party solvency. It's not a video game that puts numbers up on a screen. Each to his own, but the "system" is already on very thin ice, and it pays to be prudent with real money.
Unfortunately you can't own physical metals outright in a Roth IRA.
blitz belches out that an extremely transparent & well-known local shop in FL that openly updates (nearly every day) real BUY & SELL spreads to the public through a platform much more modern than this one ...... is small potatoes.
Uh uh. Right.. As if these fake news "shops" blitz never actually visits OR NAMES (LOLzzz) are BIG potatoes? Hahahahahahah .... YAWN .... Just more low brow content. This poor awesome old school forum deserves much better.
Unfortunately, you can't own physical metals outright in a Roth IRA.
Exactly! Which is why you should think twice before keeping any funds in an IRA or a Roth.
You should get yourself a copy of The Great Taking, watch the youtube trailers by David Rogers Webb, and realize the risk you are taking by keeping money in the system. Whether you have money in the bank, an IRA, a mutual fund, the stock market or any other financial institution you are an unsecured creditor in a system that is bankrupt, saturated with unpayable debt, hyperextended with financial derivatives and increasingly illiquid.
The wars are only intended to distract you from the incoming defaults, but the costs of the wars will only accelerate the inevitable outcome.
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
@Metalsman said:
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows". RGDS!
.
Do you actually think that anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum ?
Vermillion appears to have realistic buy/sell spreads, unlike the fantasy shops you always talk about but never name.
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Do you actually think anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum?
Please stick with defacing historical coins and your little fantasy tokens. THKS!
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Well, at least I have two "Agrees" and one "Like" on my post. Your's, not so much.
Also, you have a history of bad predictions, such as 120:1 gold:silver ratio and sub-$20 silver, among others.
You also admitted to pulling numbers out of your nether region and using those numbers, as if they were fact, in a discussion about silver in batteries.
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Consider owning ETFs in a Roth IRA for future investments in PMs.
Consider owning ETFs in a Roth IRA for future investments in PMs.
No way! But thanks. The whole point of owning physical metals is because of the risk involved in paper and 3rd party solvency. It's not a video game that puts numbers up on a screen. Each to his own, but the "system" is already on very thin ice, and it pays to be prudent with real money.
I knew it would happen.
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I request that NOBODY run the numbers and do the work for @cohodk .
If @cohodk wants to make a point, then he needs to make it himself, and do the work himself.
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Getting back to the OP's original intention with this thread - I have a question. I may have a need to sell a quantity of 90% in the near future. It is over $1,200 in face - around $750 in dimes and $475 in quarters. I don't want to deal with shipping it but I also don't have a problem driving to a reputable dealer that's paying top dollar within four hours or so of where I live (central South Carolina). Anyone have any good suggestions? Thanks!
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
Vermillion Enterprises - Spring Hill, FL (near Tampa) - a coin shop housed in a Victorian Style double story blue stand-alone house. They even have a daily YouTube.
COPPER is gutter !
Brian Vermillion stated in today's video ^ that they answer phone calls for the first half hour to forty-five minutes of their business day and then turn the phone OFF. Otherwise, they wouldn't get anything done. BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUPS!
COPPER is gutter !
Vermillion Enterprises - Spring Hill, FL (near Tampa) - a coin shop housed in a Victorian Style double story blue stand-alone house.
Thanks for the heads up - however, that would be about a nine-hour drive for me. Anything a little bit closer to South Carolina?
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
I would make the drive to Spring Hill. Vermillion is very upfront about the current premiums & discounts and they compare favorably with the shop closest to me that I deal with.
However, if you don't need to sell it for a necessary expense, I would recommend keeping ahold of it.
I knew it would happen.
Redneck already did the work. But hes not qualified to speak on this forum. Tis better to love the poorly educated that hate the educated.
I miss coho...
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
You can always do like the super bowl winners do and go to Disneyworld afterwards. And if you time it right, FUN too!
I miss Coho too. If you find him please be sure to thank him for that PPLT call. Absolutely BOOMIN!™. RGDS!!!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
Ya, in todays video he warned to not call the shop. They are not answering any phone calls as business has absolutely exploded. He talked about in this video that 2011 had nothing on what is happening now. If you can't come into the B&M they want you to e-mail them. No phone calls.
Vermillion is the closest true dealer to me that I know about. Even then, its 2.5 hours from me. Very knowledgeable and not afraid of any deal. Honest as can be out there.
COPPER is gutter !
And if you time it right, FUN too!
Actually, I am going to be at the FUN show from Wednesday thru Sunday. I called a couple of local South Carolina dealers and the best offer was 38x face. Since I'm flying to the FUN show, I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to stuff it all in my luggage.
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
I'm not too hopeful about selling 90% silver at FUN. They need to get the bulk home.
At the last FUN show one of the MAJOR dealers said they weren't interested in buying American Arts Commemorative Series 1 oz Gold Medals.
JM Bullion 12/25/2025:
Buy Price:
90% Silver Coins ($1 FV, Pre-65, Unsorted)
Sell To Us Price:
$41.84
Their Sell Price
$10 Roll of pre-64 Washington Qtr:
$526
Merry Christmas 🎄,
Mike
MIKE B.
Vermillion Enterprises - Tampa area FL 12/30/2025
BUY -7 SPOT (roughly 50x)
Sell -3 SPOT (roughly 52x)
For all silver cull random date silver dollars, Halves, Quarters, and dimes.
NOTE They are buying all ASE's at SPOT
COPPER is gutter !
I'm not too hopeful about selling 90% silver at FUN. They need to get the bulk home.
Thought you would like to know that I talked to the folks at Miller's Mint who will be set up at the FUN show and they said they would be happy to take everything I bring and will pay a solid price for it (depending upon the spot price on day I bring it to them).
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
the two main companies we ship too yesterday was minus 6.50 and minus 7.50 on 90% , there is another place at -5.85 but they take several weeks to get paid. Cant do it, too much coming in, Id be out of money fairly quickly. I am a small shop in a smaller town, and buying 20-30k a day the past few weeks as it is, and actually turning away quite a bit more where the margins are just too tight like 100 oz bars, people who want close to spot, etc,
As of yesterday Friday 1/9/2026 Vermillion Enterprises in Spring Hill FL
Very competitive! Pro dealer here! TURN & BURN
SILVER DOLLARS - Random cull BUY $55 SELL $60
90% JUNK IN THE TRUNK - BUY SPOT -7 (52xface) SELL SPOT -3 (55x face)
40% JUNK - BUY -9 SPOT SELL -6 SPOT
GENERIC .999 SILVER ROUNDS, BARS - random BUY SPOT -2 SELL AT SPOT
ASE OFF QUALITY or less than full tubes - BUY SPOT SELL SPOT +1
ASE RETAIL FRIENDLY BU FULL TUBES SAME YEAR ONLY - BUY SPOT +2 SELL SPOT + 4
*** NOTES *** on 90%. In his video update he talks about not sending 90% to be melted YET. As he is selling enough to avoid it. TONS coming in and TONS going out!
COPPER is gutter !
Other than 90%, those prices seem to be getting closer to ‘normal’
APMEX is buying 90% at spot -$10. Changed from $-6.5...zoinks!
dang 62x right now
10 back is 54.8x. not the worst, but they move the stuff to stackers too. plus they always have the refinery outlet
Bought some Gold from summit Metals last August and just received this a few minutes ago. I’ve never gotten an offer to sell from anyone with price offers. I didn’t even buy silver from them.
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Summit Metals: Summit Metals is buying silver bars Michael. Get top dollar with today's high prices! Almost 90 dollars!
We're paying:
1oz: $84
5oz: $420
10oz: $850
Bid @ $88.20
Sell now. Give us a call 551-550-5519 or email sales@summitmetals.com, or text back!
Text STOP to opt-out
MIKE B.
Just stopped by the local hole-in-the-wall LCD. Brought a few ounces of US gold and some silver.
Sold the gold at spot.
They weren’t buying ASEs. Said he had bought 30k of them and can’t move them. There were several sellers in the place. Sounded like it’s been a constant flow of sellers.
Weak dealer. They all can move them to wholesalers.
Wholesalers LOVE ASE's. Unless they all nasty culls which would be surprising being 30k worth.. Worst case would be the smelter. Sounds like that's a dealer with no capital. I wouldn't go back there.
COPPER is gutter !
'Cant sell ASEs' is not a phrase I've heard...
I had to spend the better part of yesterday dipping ASEs to rid them of the nasty toning and giving them the ole Weiman's wipe to remove all the ugly milk spots. I got spot -$0.50 and dumped 640 of them. I better get moving on the next batch. LoLZ. Thank god my gold doesn't have such problems. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
You are dipping ASE's to garnish another buck or two? That's the difference at a REAL DEALER hahahah insane
COPPER is gutter !
I'll add a couple data points from Southeast Michigan coin shops: one is paying 58x face for 90%, while the other is paying 55x - while melt is a skosh over 69x. What are others seeing?
@MrScience
Metrowest Massachusetts I'm seeing 50x to 58x face
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Vermillion Enterprises, FL 2/13 UPDATE. These guys aren't huge, but they are as professional as can be. No ridiculous spreads like being cited recently here by some from unnamed shops on this forum recently...
SILVER DOLLARS - Random cull BUY SPOT -8 SELL SPOT -3
90% JUNK - BUY SPOT -10 (48xface) SELL SPOT -5 (52x face)
40% JUNK - BUY -13 SPOT SELL -8 SPOT
GENERIC .999 SILVER ROUNDS, BARS - random BUY SPOT -2 SELL AT SPOT +2
ASE OFF QUALITY or less than full tubes - BUY SPOT -2 SELL SPOT +1
ASE RETAIL FRIENDLY BU FULL TUBES SAME YEAR ONLY - BUY SPOT +2 SELL SPOT + 6
SOLID ^^^^ give them a shout!
COPPER is gutter !
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From what I am seeing, if a person wanted to buy Silver Eagles, that is the lowest price by quite a bit (+1 or +6).
Their sell price for them (+1 for off-quality) is lower than their "Generic" 999 silver sell price (which is +2).
That makes me wonder about the accuracy of those numbers.
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Go to 8:20 on their update ...
https://youtu.be/OXzm2LQOwoI?si=WipYhRk16kNI2VC6
COPPER is gutter !
Vermillion in Florida today 3/11/2026
90% Constitutional DIMES, QUARTERS, HALVES BUYING at SPOT -14 (51xFACE ATM) SELL SPOT -9 (55xFACE ATM)
90% Constitutional cull DOLLARS BUYING at SPOT -12 ($57 ea. ATM) SELL SPOT -8 ($60 ea. ATM)
GENERIC .999 Silver BARS / ROUNDS BUYING at SPOT -4 SELL SPOT -1
ASE FULL TUBE BU SAME YEAR BUYING at SPOT +1 SELL SPOT +4
ASE OFF QUALITY (NOT BU) BUYING at SPOT -2 SELL SPOT +1
COPPER is gutter !
Vermillion is the LCS's nightmare... Brain is more than fair and POSTS his Buy sell pricing daily... Kudos to him. another FAIR and online way to sell at quoted and locked in pricing is thru Collect Pure.
LCS... days are numbered. IMHO.
Another superb and transparent pricing/spread update by Vermillion Enterprises in FL today! Plus, disco on goings on in the industry .... the GOOD the BAD and the UGLY. They do it nearly every day. I URGE all of you to find a similar source more local to you! So, we can get away from what have been historically AWFUL content from a very loud minority here with unverified tales of walking into shops that always go unnamed and undocumented.
Imagine that! Transparent BUY & SELL spreads to the PUBLIC on the regular. THAT's a professional DEALER!
THEY ARE OUT THERE!
COPPER is gutter !
Meanwhile, back in the real world.......THKS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
I have a LCS, and neither Brian at Vermillion in Florida, or Dave at Coinhuskers in Nebraska ( who’s published spreads are just as fair)
are nightmares, or competitors.
Most of us have thin margins and stay in business, because we are fair.
I believe all our days are numbered and see Brian and Dave as facilitators and middle men who are go to guys when we (other LCS) need metal or have metal to move.
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lolz you knew who I was talking about IRT awful content hahahaha #Y O U
COPPER is gutter !
Brian is small potatoes. He's in it more for generating youtube views than he is moving any significant quantity of PMs. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock into his youtube "shows". RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
.> @blitzdude said:
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Do you actually think that anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum ?
Vermillion appears to have realistic buy/sell spreads, unlike the fantasy shops you always talk about but never name.
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Blitz is all hat, no cattle.
Philippians 4:4-7
Unfortunately, you can't own physical metals outright in a Roth IRA.
Small potatoes? Have you dealt with him?
Do you actually think anyone puts any stock into whatever you write on this forum?
Please stick with defacing historical coins and your little fantasy tokens. THKS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
Retiring at 55, what day is today?
Unfortunately you can't own physical metals outright in a Roth IRA.
blitz belches out that an extremely transparent & well-known local shop in FL that openly updates (nearly every day) real BUY & SELL spreads to the public through a platform much more modern than this one ...... is small potatoes.
Uh uh. Right.. As if these fake news "shops" blitz never actually visits OR NAMES (LOLzzz) are BIG potatoes? Hahahahahahah .... YAWN .... Just more low brow content. This poor awesome old school forum deserves much better.
COPPER is gutter !
Unfortunately, you can't own physical metals outright in a Roth IRA.
Exactly! Which is why you should think twice before keeping any funds in an IRA or a Roth.
You should get yourself a copy of The Great Taking, watch the youtube trailers by David Rogers Webb, and realize the risk you are taking by keeping money in the system. Whether you have money in the bank, an IRA, a mutual fund, the stock market or any other financial institution you are an unsecured creditor in a system that is bankrupt, saturated with unpayable debt, hyperextended with financial derivatives and increasingly illiquid.
The wars are only intended to distract you from the incoming defaults, but the costs of the wars will only accelerate the inevitable outcome.
I knew it would happen.
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Well, at least I have two "Agrees" and one "Like" on my post. Your's, not so much.
Also, you have a history of bad predictions, such as 120:1 gold:silver ratio and sub-$20 silver, among others.
You also admitted to pulling numbers out of your nether region and using those numbers, as if they were fact, in a discussion about silver in batteries.
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