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So what is next? Grading and certification wise?

tonedcoinlovertonedcoinlover Posts: 95 ✭✭✭
edited December 12, 2025 5:32PM in U.S. Coin Forum

We have evolved from raw coins to certified coins.

Multiple grading services evolved.

Certified coins evolved from various iterations (labels, holders)

CAC arrived on the scene

CAC stickers (green, gold)

So where do we go next?

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “So what is next?”

    Thread titles that let readers know what the subject is?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • @MFeld said:
    “So what is next?”

    Thread titles that let readers know what the subject is?

    Thank you Mark. I should have been more specific. Would appreciate your thoughts very much on this topic.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tonedcoinlover said:

    @MFeld said:
    “So what is next?”

    Thread titles that let readers know what the subject is?

    Thank you Mark. I should have been more specific. Would appreciate your thoughts very much on this topic.

    Thank you for being a good sport.
    Since you asked, I think it’s all-but-inevitable that an AI grading trial balloon will be floated by one or more of the major grading companies.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,675 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think next will be a grading service that rates graded toned coins on a 1 to 10 scale or something like that. Toning is subjective, but when you know you know when it's fair, ok ,good or mind blowing toning!

    Oh and a service that grades whole pcgs sets! Like complete sets as a whole!

    Or nothing at all which I would prefer!

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can only repeat myself. I cannot see the current collector population accepting a "New" grading service where the grading is done just by computers/AI etc. I can envision a "NEW" sticker service by which you can submit your coins in a version similar to CAC; only you are getting your second opinion from Robbie the Robot. James

  • PeasantryPeasantry Posts: 299 ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2025 2:52PM

    Someone provides a CAC like service using AI, coin photography, scanners, etc. Your coin gets a sticker if it hasn't been messed with; elves, dentists, doctors, chemists, etc.

    Once coins will clean bills of health start showing up in auctions, it'd snowball fast. "Why doesn't this 6 figure coin have the stamp of approval?"

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would hope AI might improve the ability to correctly describe varieties. I read posts on here continuously about the tpg companies never getting the labels right, and something has got to be done about that incompetence.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,089 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Follow the money.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Investors will be loading up on more bullion coins.

    Investor
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:
    I would hope AI might improve the ability to correctly describe varieties. I read posts on here continuously about the tpg companies never getting the labels right, and something has got to be done about that incompetence.

    That would be great to have, but I believe it would take a lot of work to enter date and mint mark positions, and other die markers for earlier coins which have less on the hub. It's something that might be fun to work on, but for myself I need to finish the seated half dime attribution guides first!

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2025 12:45PM

    Smart self grading holders. Can be picked up at Walmart $2.50 each.

    Investor
  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 . That may be the single funniest post you have made thus far. James

  • stockdude_stockdude_ Posts: 539 ✭✭✭✭

    Computer grading and separate grades for both sides. Humans need to be out of the "grading" process

  • WCCWCC Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe nothing. There has got to be a limit to the financialization of collecting somewhere.

  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The inevitable, fees for services will increase. :D

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Smart self grading holders. Can be picked up at Walmart $2.50 each.

    To piggy back on this concept. Holders that speed up the toning process.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @tonedcoinlover said:

    @MFeld said:
    “So what is next?”

    Thread titles that let readers know what the subject is?

    Thank you Mark. I should have been more specific. Would appreciate your thoughts very much on this topic.

    Thank you for being a good sport.
    Since you asked, I think it’s all-but-inevitable that an AI grading trial balloon will be floated by one or more of the major grading companies.

    I think its being used necessary. In a testing phase by at least PCGS. I have no proof of it but AI is all the rage. I remember some threads about it in past. Maybe it will speed things up.

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
    Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
    Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7 JWP BruceS bigjpst
    JWP

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They got a price reduction now, its $2.47

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d like to see reeds graded

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm just here waiting for @Morgan White to post his thoughts.

  • World67World67 Posts: 13,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:
    I'm just here waiting for @Morgan White to post his thoughts.

    Hmmm....let's see.

    Stage 1: Collect coins in a cabinet. You can pick them up and admire them as tangible objects.

    Stage 2: Collect coins in boards/folders. You provide some protection but can still hold them as tangible objects if desired.

    Stage 3: Collect coins in albums. Additional protection with slides, front and back visibility, but can still hold them as tangible objects if desired.

    Stage 4: Collect coins in slabs. Complete (or nearly so) protection, but you have lost the ability to tangibly connect with them, creating distance between the owner and object. It's a personal museum and you are the caretaker.

    Stage 5: Collect virtual coins. The cycle is now complete. Collect pictures of coins on your phone, a gallery of things hoped for, of dreams never realized. It's the end of all things real as humanity slides into an AI dystopian future devoid of all happiness and meaning.

    Until then, I'll keep throwing these into the box so my grandchildren will know a real world once existed, a place of beauty and truth, and so it can be again.


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