Thank you
I do have an idea of where to start . If it works it should be enough. Going to have to play it close to The vest at first though . Thank you for the suggestions 😊
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Thank you
I do have an idea of where to start . If it works it should be enough. Going to have to play it close to The vest at first though . Thank you for the suggestions 😊
you want help but will keep it close to your vest?
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Thank you
I do have an idea of where to start . If it works it should be enough. Going to have to play it close to The vest at first though . Thank you for the suggestions 😊
@LanLord said:
I think you were all arguing with an AI engine.
He joined 3 1/2 years ago, but apart from one test thread back then, all his posts have been recent, and almost entirely to his own threads.
I suppose he could be testing his AI operation. It would explain a few things, such as the fact that he mostly only posted to his own threads, and apparently has written no letters of his own to the entities he was highlighting as responsible for taking action.
AI's are great at writing letters. 😁
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Thankfully I have not been burned recently, and although I have just a faction of the knowledge many of you on this forum do, I have really tried in the last 3 or 4 years to educated myself while learning from some of the very best in the world in regard to what we collect.
My guess is also a bot that is in Beta.
A chatbot would have to be specially programmed to make those grammar mistakes.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Still too long to read? I am not sure if it is only one page? and yes, this is the very first time I attempted to use the AI for anything other than a spell checker.
BTW the AI might be handy, but it is currently kicking my butt.
I may in fact need something more to back this up, (hint, hint ) if by some miracle this gets a nibble.
(SNIP)
Subject: Request for Investigation into Potential Federal Law Violations by eBay and Associated Sellers Involving Numismatic Items
Dear U.S. Attorney [Last Name],
I am writing to respectfully bring to your attention serious concerns regarding potential violations of federal law by the e-commerce platform eBay, as well as certain sellers operating within its marketplace. These concerns center on the continued advertisement and sale of unlawfully marked or misrepresented numismatic items, which may constitute violations of, but are not limited to:
The Hobby Protection Act (HPA), which requires that imitation numismatic items be permanently and conspicuously marked to prevent consumer deception.
The Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in commerce.
The U.S. SAFE WEB Act, which enhances the Federal Trade Commission’s authority to combat cross-border fraud and deceptive practices affecting U.S. consumers.
Despite public awareness of these issues and the availability of reporting mechanisms, large numbers of imitation coins, medals, and tokens — often lacking the legally required “COPY” marking — continue to be listed and sold on eBay. Many of these items are presented in a manner that could mislead buyers into believing they are purchasing genuine numismatic pieces. The platform continues to collect listing fees, commissions, and other revenue from these transactions, raising significant questions about its role and responsibility in preventing the sale of items that violate federal law and its own stated policies.
This concern is underscored by the Deferred Prosecution Agreement entered in the U.S. District Court on January 11, 2024, in which federal authorities addressed serious compliance failures by eBay in a separate matter. That agreement demonstrates that the Department of Justice has already found it necessary to impose corrective measures on the platform to address unlawful conduct. The persistence of improperly marked numismatic items despite such federal oversight suggests that additional review and enforcement may be warranted.
It is important to note that these concerns are not limited to isolated consumer complaints. Members of respected online numismatic forums — including moderators, administrators, and contributors ranging from amateur collectors to some of the most recognized professionals in the field — have documented and reported these violations to eBay for years. Many of these individuals are considered among the top experts in numismatics, with decades of experience in authentication, grading, and market analysis. Their repeated efforts to alert eBay to clear violations of both federal law and the platform’s own policies have often been met with inaction or inadequate enforcement.
These experts have provided detailed evidence, including photographs, seller histories, and item numbers, yet non-compliant numismatic listings frequently remain active or reappear shortly after removal. This pattern raises concerns about whether eBay’s internal compliance monitoring — including any corporate policy enforcement teams or automated detection systems — is functioning effectively, or whether there is a systemic failure to prioritize the removal of illegal listings when doing so may reduce revenue.
The ongoing facilitation of improperly marked imitation numismatic items not only harms individual collectors — many of whom may have limited recourse after being misled — but also damages legitimate dealers, erodes trust in the numismatic marketplace, and undermines the integrity of the hobby. The Hobby Protection Act was enacted to protect collectors from deceptive practices in the sale of imitation coins and related items, yet its effectiveness is diminished when large-scale online platforms fail to enforce compliance among their sellers.
Given the scope of these concerns, the documented expertise of those raising them, and the precedent set by the January 11, 2024 DPA, I respectfully request that your office consider initiating an investigation into whether eBay’s current practices, policies, and enforcement mechanisms meet the requirements of these federal statutes. Such an investigation could help determine whether the platform is taking adequate steps to prevent the sale of non-compliant numismatic items, whether it is profiting from unlawful activity, and whether additional enforcement action is warranted to protect collectors and ensure fair competition.
I am prepared to provide further information, including documented examples of non-compliant numismatic listings, transaction records, communications with those who have tried and failed with the platform, and statements from recognized numismatic experts who have attempted to work with eBay to
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Still too long to read? I am not sure if it is only one page? and yes, this is the very first time I attempted to use the AI for anything other than a spell checker.
BTW the AI might be handy, but it is currently kicking my butt.
I may in fact need something more to back this up, (hint, hint ) if by some miracle this gets a nibble.
(SNIP)
Subject: Request for Investigation into Potential Federal Law Violations by eBay and Associated Sellers Involving Numismatic Items
Dear U.S. Attorney [Last Name],
I am writing to respectfully bring to your attention serious concerns regarding potential violations of federal law by the e-commerce platform eBay, as well as certain sellers operating within its marketplace. These concerns center on the continued advertisement and sale of unlawfully marked or misrepresented numismatic items, which may constitute violations of, but are not limited to:
The Hobby Protection Act (HPA), which requires that imitation numismatic items be permanently and conspicuously marked to prevent consumer deception.
The Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in commerce.
The U.S. SAFE WEB Act, which enhances the Federal Trade Commission’s authority to combat cross-border fraud and deceptive practices affecting U.S. consumers.
Despite public awareness of these issues and the availability of reporting mechanisms, large numbers of imitation coins, medals, and tokens — often lacking the legally required “COPY” marking — continue to be listed and sold on eBay. Many of these items are presented in a manner that could mislead buyers into believing they are purchasing genuine numismatic pieces. The platform continues to collect listing fees, commissions, and other revenue from these transactions, raising significant questions about its role and responsibility in preventing the sale of items that violate federal law and its own stated policies.
This concern is underscored by the Deferred Prosecution Agreement entered in the U.S. District Court on January 11, 2024, in which federal authorities addressed serious compliance failures by eBay in a separate matter. That agreement demonstrates that the Department of Justice has already found it necessary to impose corrective measures on the platform to address unlawful conduct. The persistence of improperly marked numismatic items despite such federal oversight suggests that additional review and enforcement may be warranted.
It is important to note that these concerns are not limited to isolated consumer complaints. Members of respected online numismatic forums — including moderators, administrators, and contributors ranging from amateur collectors to some of the most recognized professionals in the field — have documented and reported these violations to eBay for years. Many of these individuals are considered among the top experts in numismatics, with decades of experience in authentication, grading, and market analysis. Their repeated efforts to alert eBay to clear violations of both federal law and the platform’s own policies have often been met with inaction or inadequate enforcement.
These experts have provided detailed evidence, including photographs, seller histories, and item numbers, yet non-compliant numismatic listings frequently remain active or reappear shortly after removal. This pattern raises concerns about whether eBay’s internal compliance monitoring — including any corporate policy enforcement teams or automated detection systems — is functioning effectively, or whether there is a systemic failure to prioritize the removal of illegal listings when doing so may reduce revenue.
The ongoing facilitation of improperly marked imitation numismatic items not only harms individual collectors — many of whom may have limited recourse after being misled — but also damages legitimate dealers, erodes trust in the numismatic marketplace, and undermines the integrity of the hobby. The Hobby Protection Act was enacted to protect collectors from deceptive practices in the sale of imitation coins and related items, yet its effectiveness is diminished when large-scale online platforms fail to enforce compliance among their sellers.
Given the scope of these concerns, the documented expertise of those raising them, and the precedent set by the January 11, 2024 DPA, I respectfully request that your office consider initiating an investigation into whether eBay’s current practices, policies, and enforcement mechanisms meet the requirements of these federal statutes. Such an investigation could help determine whether the platform is taking adequate steps to prevent the sale of non-compliant numismatic items, whether it is profiting from unlawful activity, and whether additional enforcement action is warranted to protect collectors and ensure fair competition.
I am prepared to provide further information, including documented examples of non-compliant numismatic listings, transaction records, communications with those who have tried and failed with the platform, and statements from recognized numismatic experts who have attempted to work with eBay to
Strange times for sure. These days it's hard to tell if you are communicating with a human or AI bot. It only goes south from here. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
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@blitzdude said:
Strange times for sure. These days it's hard to tell if you are communicating with a human or AI bot. It only goes south from here. RGDS!
It appears clear to me that we’re communicating with a real person, who’s sincere and making an effort. And whatever the shortcomings of his efforts, at least he’s trying, Many other posters here have also tried, while it’s likely that many others haven’t. That’s their choice but I think that @Uncle_Bingo deserves better treatment than he’s received.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@blitzdude said:
Strange times for sure. These days it's hard to tell if you are communicating with a human or AI bot. It only goes south from here. RGDS!
It appears clear to me that we’re communicating with a real person, who’s sincere and making an effort. And whatever the shortcomings of his efforts, at least he’s trying, Many other posters here have also tried, while it’s likely that many others haven’t. That’s their choice but I think that @Uncle_Bingo deserves better treatment than he’s received.
@MFeld : Thank you, Where I come from that kind of thing still means something. I might hit you up at a later date about the others you have mentioned that have tried and failed. I have not quite got the search function down on this board yet or I would have just looked for myself
@geseas :
HI G,
I saw your name pop up under the gentleman's above post and happy you agree that I am at least carbon based and not silicon
Does this bring back memories or what? That question was just for you to ponder and reflect upon, no need to reply.
I will not ask a friend to jump in here, I got this.
I decided to come alone this time; I made a mistake once a long time ago taking a whole little" village" with me to fight one of those mythical dragons. It is not a story with a very happy ending, SO Enough said///
I better make 2 posts in an effort to find a little clarity here.
@JBK said:
Why would you send a letter by Certified Mail? This will take many letters. You'll be spending enough on 78 cent Forever stamps - you don't need to waste another several dollars per letter on Certified Mail.
Emails will be far less effective. It's very easy to hit "send" and it's even easier to hit "delete". Make them pull out the letter opener and work for it.
Your message must be far simpler and more direct than anything you've posted on these and other forums. TLDR counts in the real world as well as online. Simply and directly state the problem and the impact while briefly referencing some of the laws supposedly being broken. Your letter should be no more than one page unless you've gotten a nibble and are following up.
You have two US Senators and a Member of Congress. Send letters to them as well as the top people at all those alphabet agencies you mentioned. See who responds and what they have to say.
Also try the other ideas people here have mentioned, such as contacting local consumer reporters, etc., and perhaps even your state's legislators, law enforcement agencies, and consumer affairs agencies.
Once you have identified the interested parties then you can try to enlist others and provide addresses and contact details.
It's not quite as complicated as it sounds since you can recycle your basic letter for all the recipients.
@JBK So I took some of this advice, but I cannot /will not sign that AI assisted letter yet, Because I will not put my name on it until it is the TRUTH . I have referred to Computers as Silicon based life forms, most of my life. (I think that may have been Roddenberry)
Who planted that seed although the concept could be far older depending on what book you read.
TLDR might be a thing in this day and age, but it sounds more like an excuse some might tell themselves so they can go back and watch some mindless babble on snap chat, or TikTok, or whatever. It is really kind of sad if you think about it; They don't even teach cursive to kids anymore. So certain archives in this world could possibly be forgotten and TLDR rules unless it is digitized edited and condensed. That is a slippery slope IMHO
Reminds me of the burning of books at Alexandria to heat the baths of the conquers or so one version of the story goes.
Back to that letter, it's still a little long IMO.
While fighting with that AI I was kind of trying to get it to understand that it cannot predict the future, and that it may be confusing what is, with what could be.
It took a little coaxing to get the body of the letter close to what I wanted it to say. but that closing is something else.
I wished the HPA had a little more on its own, I left several Statutes out because I figure any good attorney at that level would not really like to be told something they already know, any more than any expert in whatever their field may be.
When that letter gets to the end where I have to declare what I am prepared to do? That is where the struggle begins for me,
I could just write in" whatever it takes", but that would be silly. those guys don't know me from Adam. (not a religious reference BTW) whatever name you want to replace Adam with also depends on What book you read.
I could go on but I need sleep /
Hey, I do need to say something to anyone who is reading this. I'm sorry about this passive aggressive thing I got going on,
It is extremely useful in my professional life; it is not handy at all when typing something to people who don't even know me.
I am trying to work on it .
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Still too long to read? I am not sure if it is only one page? and yes, this is the very first time I attempted to use the AI for anything other than a spell checker.
BTW the AI might be handy, but it is currently kicking my butt.
I may in fact need something more to back this up, (hint, hint ) if by some miracle this gets a nibble.
(SNIP)
Subject: Request for Investigation into Potential Federal Law Violations by eBay and Associated Sellers Involving Numismatic Items
Dear U.S. Attorney [Last Name],
I am writing to respectfully bring to your attention serious concerns regarding potential violations of federal law by the e-commerce platform eBay, as well as certain sellers operating within its marketplace. These concerns center on the continued advertisement and sale of unlawfully marked or misrepresented numismatic items, which may constitute violations of, but are not limited to:
The Hobby Protection Act (HPA), which requires that imitation numismatic items be permanently and conspicuously marked to prevent consumer deception.
The Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in commerce.
The U.S. SAFE WEB Act, which enhances the Federal Trade Commission’s authority to combat cross-border fraud and deceptive practices affecting U.S. consumers.
Despite public awareness of these issues and the availability of reporting mechanisms, large numbers of imitation coins, medals, and tokens — often lacking the legally required “COPY” marking — continue to be listed and sold on eBay. Many of these items are presented in a manner that could mislead buyers into believing they are purchasing genuine numismatic pieces. The platform continues to collect listing fees, commissions, and other revenue from these transactions, raising significant questions about its role and responsibility in preventing the sale of items that violate federal law and its own stated policies.
This concern is underscored by the Deferred Prosecution Agreement entered in the U.S. District Court on January 11, 2024, in which federal authorities addressed serious compliance failures by eBay in a separate matter. That agreement demonstrates that the Department of Justice has already found it necessary to impose corrective measures on the platform to address unlawful conduct. The persistence of improperly marked numismatic items despite such federal oversight suggests that additional review and enforcement may be warranted.
It is important to note that these concerns are not limited to isolated consumer complaints. Members of respected online numismatic forums — including moderators, administrators, and contributors ranging from amateur collectors to some of the most recognized professionals in the field — have documented and reported these violations to eBay for years. Many of these individuals are considered among the top experts in numismatics, with decades of experience in authentication, grading, and market analysis. Their repeated efforts to alert eBay to clear violations of both federal law and the platform’s own policies have often been met with inaction or inadequate enforcement.
These experts have provided detailed evidence, including photographs, seller histories, and item numbers, yet non-compliant numismatic listings frequently remain active or reappear shortly after removal. This pattern raises concerns about whether eBay’s internal compliance monitoring — including any corporate policy enforcement teams or automated detection systems — is functioning effectively, or whether there is a systemic failure to prioritize the removal of illegal listings when doing so may reduce revenue.
The ongoing facilitation of improperly marked imitation numismatic items not only harms individual collectors — many of whom may have limited recourse after being misled — but also damages legitimate dealers, erodes trust in the numismatic marketplace, and undermines the integrity of the hobby. The Hobby Protection Act was enacted to protect collectors from deceptive practices in the sale of imitation coins and related items, yet its effectiveness is diminished when large-scale online platforms fail to enforce compliance among their sellers.
Given the scope of these concerns, the documented expertise of those raising them, and the precedent set by the January 11, 2024 DPA, I respectfully request that your office consider initiating an investigation into whether eBay’s current practices, policies, and enforcement mechanisms meet the requirements of these federal statutes. Such an investigation could help determine whether the platform is taking adequate steps to prevent the sale of non-compliant numismatic items, whether it is profiting from unlawful activity, and whether additional enforcement action is warranted to protect collectors and ensure fair competition.
I am prepared to provide further information, including documented examples of non-compliant numismatic listings, transaction records, communications with those who have tried and failed with the platform, and statements from recognized numismatic experts who have attempted to work with eBay to
Just my 2 cents....
It's still way too long and wordy. You could say the same thing with half the words.
Also, it seems to be primarily aimed at eBay. If the issue is counterfeits then the net has to be cast much wider.
There is an unnecessary reference to an earlier ebay case. That legal action had to do with a harassment and intimidation campaign some high-ranking eBay executives launched against a pair of online critics. It had nothing to do with counterfeits or sales practices.
I don't know if there are already any precedents covering auction sites, but eBay will probably argue that they are just a platform that brings buyers and sellers together. They will also argue that they already have rules in place prohibiting the listing of counterfeit or illegal items, and that they have review and reporting processes to enforce those rules. If your case is centered around eBay and they are successful in their response, then your whole case goes away.
As I had suggested earlier, issues with jurisdiction and intent will make it a difficult battle, so the plan of attack must be very carefully constructed so the whole thing doesn't collapse if you lose one line of argument.
Ya, I know it's a little long, and I also know I said I was going to keep this close to vest. The universe obviously had a different idea. I read a couple different versions of that letter, trust me some were much longer, some that had multiple attachments,
some wanting affidavits and the like. stuff easily dismissed,,,,, just too much on a " first date". LOL
I am not very good with using anything the very first time and I would try to export the file, and I have no flipping idea where it went. So, I just copied the text and put it here and on Vam world so I could figure out what to cut and what to close with.
Your mention of the earlier case is noted; however, I must respectfully disagree.
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
That question is not designed to be antagonistic BTW .
I don't have anything personal against eBay, other than what has been stated.
I have spent my fair share on that platform mainly for hobby purposes.
Even had to use the guarantee a handful of times.
I used to own one of these" message boards" a long time ago, I found 12 people over the course of a few years that were smarter than me and a handful with different views to keep it honest. (No need to search for it, I tried to hide it from the search engines,,,,,, call it the "light grey web" and not the Dark one. I also turned the lights off and shut the door best as I could when I left.
Call it a think tank if you will. the primary function was educational, research based and I guess in reality just a place to hang out, far away from the noise many boards had back then.
I didn't want any one's secrets... I said that several times knowing full well anyone with any computer skill at all, who really cared about what we were talking about (not that anyone would) but they could have easily got past the minimal security. I also told them that the rest of the world already thought we were nuts. so, it wasn't really an issue.
There was so much research data shared. Closet thing I have seen to that board is the NNP archive. The AI might very well have had trouble keeping up IMO . That AI is not quite ready for anything other than a research tool for my needs yet, however it can assist in writing a letter, I guess. I will thank ever one of you here for that suggestion.
I have never really been a member of the " Black helicopter, tinfoil hat" CLUB, that stuff can mess with some folk's minds, and they could end up self-living under a bridge, or worse. I had to say more than one time back then that although I was not a big conspiracy nut.
If a few of those guys were not just a little bit paranoid about what every one of us had witnessed on the other boards, (the Darkside of that hobby) then they probably weren't paying attention.
It wasn't aliens, or illuminati or new world order that I was talking about
It was greed in others, and I felt that it could very well be a legitimate concern,
I asked Siri today about Operation Redfeather, she got the part about me being the founder wrong. it was not my idea I don't want the credit for someone else's inspiration. and just so we are clear I don't speak for anyone on the VAMWORLD forum.
I came alone this time on purpose,
This little quest might be just a tiny bit more dangerous than the last one I was involved with. and if I got to do it alone I will.
but I don't believe I am alone. Even if all I get is positive energy from a group, and the coin community is a pretty big group IMO , all wishing the same thing and hoping for some good to come of it .
How could I be ?
Every one of us that is not a thief anyway ,,, already knew.
"You ever skin Grizz Pilgram ? You skin that one and I'll bring you another " Jerimiah Johnson
@JBK said:
I don't know if there are already any precedents covering auction sites, but eBay will probably argue that they are just a platform that brings buyers and sellers together. They will also argue that they already have rules in place prohibiting the listing of counterfeit or illegal items, and that they have review and reporting processes to enforce those rules. If your case is centered around eBay and they are successful in their response, then your whole case goes away.
and this is true of all platforms. they will cite their policies and efforts then use the term "whack-a-mole."
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
The ultimate TLDR.
No, I did not, and I don't intend to. And therein lies the problem. I actually have a preexisting interest in this issue, and I'm not inclined to read 87 pages of a court document that is peripheral to the purpose of your letter. What chance do you stand with someone who is not already interested in the issue?
It will be necessary to effectively communicate the issue before expecting anyone to give a hoot.
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
The ultimate TLDR.
No, I did not, and I don't intend to. And therein lies the problem. I actually have a preexisting interest in this issue, and I'm not inclined to read 87 pages of a court document that is peripheral to the purpose of your letter. What chance do you stand with someone who is not already interested in the issue?
It will be necessary to effectively communicate the issue before expecting anyone to give a hoot.
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
The ultimate TLDR.
No, I did not, and I don't intend to. And therein lies the problem. I actually have a preexisting interest in this issue, and I'm not inclined to read 87 pages of a court document that is peripheral to the purpose of your letter. What chance do you stand with someone who is not already interested in the issue?
It will be necessary to effectively communicate the issue before expecting anyone to give a hoot.
That is too bad. Have a great day
That case had been discussed multiple times on this forum. It was a harassment case involving people who were all terminated from ebay as a result of their actions. It has ZERO to do with counterfeits. You might as well point us to the briefs in the Lindbergh kidnapping.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Thank you for your comment. I figured some people already knew that part. The DPA is like a deal to avoid further repercussions for some previous wrong doing .the company agrees to be on its best behavior [go and sin no more] kind of thing . An Independent monitoring firm is supposed to be keeping an eye on ebay , almost like a adult parole and probation officer would keep an eye on an individual that may have been convicted and released but the state feels the individual needs to be monitored for some appropriate time there after.
Part of any arrangement like that requires that no matter the previous act .the guilty party must avoid participation in any illegal activity. Even if it had nothing to do with whatever infraction the original charges were. I did not make this this complex arrangement .
The judicial system did . I hope that I have not wasted anyone's time . Don't take my word for it .I am not a lawyer.
I am NOT asking anyone to hit like and subscribe. Those that do good with That.
Good for them!
You should be happy for folks who are successful with that kind of thing as long as it does no harm
I am not seeking fame. I have been famous before and I Do NOT care for such things .
I have my eye on the prize.
AND in case you don't know what that prize is I will tell you.
A guy is supposed to leave this world, in better shape than when he found it.
Thank you for your time. I will let you guys go back to coins now.
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Ya, I know it's a little long, and I also know I said I was going to keep this close to vest. The universe obviously had a different idea. I read a couple different versions of that letter, trust me some were much longer, some that had multiple attachments,
some wanting affidavits and the like. stuff easily dismissed,,,,, just too much on a " first date". LOL
I am not very good with using anything the very first time and I would try to export the file, and I have no flipping idea where it went. So, I just copied the text and put it here and on Vam world so I could figure out what to cut and what to close with.
Your mention of the earlier case is noted; however, I must respectfully disagree.
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
That question is not designed to be antagonistic BTW .
I don't have anything personal against eBay, other than what has been stated.
I have spent my fair share on that platform mainly for hobby purposes.
Even had to use the guarantee a handful of times.
I used to own one of these" message boards" a long time ago, I found 12 people over the course of a few years that were smarter than me and a handful with different views to keep it honest. (No need to search for it, I tried to hide it from the search engines,,,,,, call it the "light grey web" and not the Dark one. I also turned the lights off and shut the door best as I could when I left.
Call it a think tank if you will. the primary function was educational, research based and I guess in reality just a place to hang out, far away from the noise many boards had back then.
I didn't want any one's secrets... I said that several times knowing full well anyone with any computer skill at all, who really cared about what we were talking about (not that anyone would) but they could have easily got past the minimal security. I also told them that the rest of the world already thought we were nuts. so, it wasn't really an issue.
There was so much research data shared. Closet thing I have seen to that board is the NNP archive. The AI might very well have had trouble keeping up IMO . That AI is not quite ready for anything other than a research tool for my needs yet, however it can assist in writing a letter, I guess. I will thank ever one of you here for that suggestion.
I have never really been a member of the " Black helicopter, tinfoil hat" CLUB, that stuff can mess with some folk's minds, and they could end up self-living under a bridge, or worse. I had to say more than one time back then that although I was not a big conspiracy nut.
If a few of those guys were not just a little bit paranoid about what every one of us had witnessed on the other boards, (the Darkside of that hobby) then they probably weren't paying attention.
It wasn't aliens, or illuminati or new world order that I was talking about
It was greed in others, and I felt that it could very well be a legitimate concern,
I asked Siri today about Operation Redfeather, she got the part about me being the founder wrong. it was not my idea I don't want the credit for someone else's inspiration. and just so we are clear I don't speak for anyone on the VAMWORLD forum.
I came alone this time on purpose,
This little quest might be just a tiny bit more dangerous than the last one I was involved with. and if I got to do it alone I will.
but I don't believe I am alone. Even if all I get is positive energy from a group, and the coin community is a pretty big group IMO , all wishing the same thing and hoping for some good to come of it .
How could I be ?
Every one of us that is not a thief anyway ,,, already knew.
"You ever skin Grizz Pilgram ? You skin that one and I'll bring you another " Jerimiah Johnson
For what it’s worth, I think that @JBK has been providing you with excellent feedback and advice.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Thank you for your comment. I figured some people already knew that part. The DPA is like a deal to avoid further repercussions for some previous wrong doing .the company agrees to be on its best behavior [go and sin no more] kind of thing . An Independent monitoring firm is supposed to be keeping an eye on ebay , almost like a adult parole and probation officer would keep an eye on an individual that may have been convicted and released but the state feels the individual needs to be monitored for some appropriate time there after.
Part of any arrangement like that requires that no matter the previous act .the guilty party must avoid participation in any illegal activity. Even if it had nothing to do with whatever infraction the original charges were. I did not make this this complex arrangement .
The judicial system did . I hope that I have not wasted anyone's time . Don't take my word for it .I am not a lawyer.
I am NOT asking anyone to hit like and subscribe. Those that do good with That.
Good for them!
You should be happy for folks who are successful with that kind of thing as long as it does no harm
I am not seeking fame. I have been famous before and I Do NOT care for such things .
I have my eye on the prize.
AND in case you don't know what that prize is I will tell you.
A guy is supposed to leave this world, in better shape than when he found it.
Thank you for your time. I will let you guys go back to coins now.
You are going to have a hard time claiming that eBay is "selling counterfeits " and therefore engaging in criminal activity. If they are, so is every social media company, as well as the post office and every shipping company.
That said, my understanding is that DPA are specific agreements covering specific actions.
Lindbergh baby
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@Uncle_Bingo said:
Ya, I know it's a little long, and I also know I said I was going to keep this close to vest. The universe obviously had a different idea. I read a couple different versions of that letter, trust me some were much longer, some that had multiple attachments,
some wanting affidavits and the like. stuff easily dismissed,,,,, just too much on a " first date". LOL
I am not very good with using anything the very first time and I would try to export the file, and I have no flipping idea where it went. So, I just copied the text and put it here and on Vam world so I could figure out what to cut and what to close with.
Your mention of the earlier case is noted; however, I must respectfully disagree.
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
That question is not designed to be antagonistic BTW .
I don't have anything personal against eBay, other than what has been stated.
I have spent my fair share on that platform mainly for hobby purposes.
Even had to use the guarantee a handful of times.
I used to own one of these" message boards" a long time ago, I found 12 people over the course of a few years that were smarter than me and a handful with different views to keep it honest. (No need to search for it, I tried to hide it from the search engines,,,,,, call it the "light grey web" and not the Dark one. I also turned the lights off and shut the door best as I could when I left.
Call it a think tank if you will. the primary function was educational, research based and I guess in reality just a place to hang out, far away from the noise many boards had back then.
I didn't want any one's secrets... I said that several times knowing full well anyone with any computer skill at all, who really cared about what we were talking about (not that anyone would) but they could have easily got past the minimal security. I also told them that the rest of the world already thought we were nuts. so, it wasn't really an issue.
There was so much research data shared. Closet thing I have seen to that board is the NNP archive. The AI might very well have had trouble keeping up IMO . That AI is not quite ready for anything other than a research tool for my needs yet, however it can assist in writing a letter, I guess. I will thank ever one of you here for that suggestion.
I have never really been a member of the " Black helicopter, tinfoil hat" CLUB, that stuff can mess with some folk's minds, and they could end up self-living under a bridge, or worse. I had to say more than one time back then that although I was not a big conspiracy nut.
If a few of those guys were not just a little bit paranoid about what every one of us had witnessed on the other boards, (the Darkside of that hobby) then they probably weren't paying attention.
It wasn't aliens, or illuminati or new world order that I was talking about
It was greed in others, and I felt that it could very well be a legitimate concern,
I asked Siri today about Operation Redfeather, she got the part about me being the founder wrong. it was not my idea I don't want the credit for someone else's inspiration. and just so we are clear I don't speak for anyone on the VAMWORLD forum.
I came alone this time on purpose,
This little quest might be just a tiny bit more dangerous than the last one I was involved with. and if I got to do it alone I will.
but I don't believe I am alone. Even if all I get is positive energy from a group, and the coin community is a pretty big group IMO , all wishing the same thing and hoping for some good to come of it .
How could I be ?
Every one of us that is not a thief anyway ,,, already knew.
"You ever skin Grizz Pilgram ? You skin that one and I'll bring you another " Jerimiah Johnson
For what it’s worth, I think that @JBK has been providing you with excellent feedback and advice.
This is true, and is being 100% ignored. Hence why some people are not regarding the OP as a serious person.
I read some but find it a little confusing to be told on a coin site, in a coin thread, "You can go back to your coins now." Then what was this all about and why is it here? James
@seatedlib3991 said:
I don't say this often but cancer pain and morphine fog aside ; i don't think I have a clue what this is all about. James
I am unfogged by cancer or morphine and I know for a fact I don't have a clue what this is about. I just see a random new poster with WALLS of text and then reasonable posts from reasonable, regular posters contradicting/clarifying/advising and then more GIANT WALLS OF TEXT
I've read almost none of it. The word "quixotic" keeps floating through my mind.
@MsMorrisine . Just ignore the other stuff, as I said, things tend to get mentally foggy around here. Just caught myself putting the hamburger to thaw for Thursday dinner in the tupperware cupboard. I have major surgery in January so will see what life is like on the other side then. thanks for asking. James
@seatedlib3991 said:
I don't say this often but cancer pain and morphine fog aside ; i don't think I have a clue what this is all about. James
I am unfogged by cancer or morphine and I know for a fact I don't have a clue what this is about. I just see a random new poster with WALLS of text and then reasonable posts from reasonable, regular posters contradicting/clarifying/advising and then more GIANT WALLS OF TEXT
I've read almost none of it. The word "quixotic" keeps floating through my mind.
This was the clue that was needed to unlock the meaning. It all makes sense now.
@seatedlib3991 said:
I don't say this often but cancer pain and morphine fog aside ; i don't think I have a clue what this is all about. James
I am unfogged by cancer or morphine and I know for a fact I don't have a clue what this is about. I just see a random new poster with WALLS of text and then reasonable posts from reasonable, regular posters contradicting/clarifying/advising and then more GIANT WALLS OF TEXT
I've read almost none of it. The word "quixotic" keeps floating through my mind.
Living in a Quadrazine Dream.
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"I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
For what it’s worth, I think that @JBK has been providing you with excellent feedback and advice.
This is true, and is being 100% ignored. Hence why some people are not regarding the OP as a serious person.
Im not very good with using this particular message board so I am not going to be able respond to each members thoughts with quoted small exerts from each post.
I have pretty thick skin so no need for anyone to worry about that . Not that anyone was.
Just sayin
I have in fact listened to every word that has been said on here and the coin comunity forum as well.
Thank you for Redfeather book idea it's going to make a great Christmas present.
I think I admitted how hard this was going to be to follow in the lead post.
As far as me saying the part about letting you good folks getting back to your coins? The truth is I cannot sustain a social media presence across 3 message boards.
I came here 3 1/2 years ago and looked around and said to myself ."nope: .this right here is the big dance," and I could not find a way to really contribute so I left.
I saw the black hole picture in here and thought more of an event horizon.
Having a little trouble with the Lindbergh baby reference.
I think that happened before I was born and the only thing I recall was the whole country looking for the child, I could have that part wrong and may have to look it up when I get a second.
Quoting this post will only make the wall of text higher so not really much I can do about that .
A friend who I have never met asked for help. His ask,although somewhat technical hit home with me. Not because of his title or status, but because I thought he was a solid human and could use a hand.
Maybe I will buy a roll of those stamps for an Elementary School teacher that has been teaching her students about what the words on our coinage really stand for.
Can you imagine the impact a class of little kids drawing pictures in crayon would look like?
Maybe some of the suggestions and ideas have already started in motion.
Multiple ideas could work IMHO
And belive it or not although somewhat circumstantial I think I may have already seen a couple examples bare fruit.
I came here and to the family friendly forum and asked for help
And I got it.
This doesn't end here ?it is just the beginning IMO
@Uncle_Bingo said:
Im not very good with using this particular message board so I am not going to be able respond to each members thoughts with quoted small exerts from each post.
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highlight what you want to delete and do it. just be sure that new paragraphs start with a > and a space for it to show as a quote
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I came here 3 1/2 years ago and looked around and said to myself ."nope: .this right here is the big dance," and I could not find a way to really contribute so I left.
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there are state quarter collectors here. you fit right in
there are state quarter collectors here. you fit right in
I am afraid they would not find my participation there helpful. The quarter story is a real touchy subject that I do not want to discuss and It has nothing to do with an old internet forum .
Cancer has caused me more pain than you can possibly imagine .mMy heart broke just a liite bit reading one of the post above .my heart goes out to the poster and family and I must admit I have no idea who you folks are in the real world. I saw my buddy G and that was just enough to give me a little hope.you should not question my sincerity I feel that is unwarranted and how can one debate or even have a logical discussion with those not even willing to look at the evidence presented ?
Thank you for the suggestion but I'm gonna pass on the quarter forum You know I kind of knew what I was in for before I clicked back to this place I even asked for permission through the moderator report a post functions and sent the first three links somewhere.
Just so we are clear I did not know everything when I came looking for help and I tryed to acknowledge the things learned here and at the family fourum by acting appropriately.and incorperating those ideas .These other ideas and suggestions that maybe seemed I was ignoring
were things I already knew before I ever came . So forgive me if it looked like that was something else.
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a letter from each of us won't doanything
ebay and the lot are aware and are "working" but it is "whack-a-mole"
they need more to get their attention
Thank you
I do have an idea of where to start . If it works it should be enough. Going to have to play it close to The vest at first though . Thank you for the suggestions 😊
you want help but will keep it close to your vest?
Just the first letters. It is important IMO . If it doesn't work then on to The next set.whatever it takes.
you'll need documentation t go with those letters. those mailings need to be in a small binder
I'm all for waves of attack when appropriate. ⚔️
AI's are great at writing letters. 😁
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A chatbot would have to be specially programmed to make those grammar mistakes.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
It might be easier to just ask someone on the VAMWORD forum if I am real or not , and yes they know my English sucks there too
Still too long to read? I am not sure if it is only one page? and yes, this is the very first time I attempted to use the AI for anything other than a spell checker.
BTW the AI might be handy, but it is currently kicking my butt.
I may in fact need something more to back this up, (hint, hint ) if by some miracle this gets a nibble.
(SNIP)
Subject: Request for Investigation into Potential Federal Law Violations by eBay and Associated Sellers Involving Numismatic Items
Dear U.S. Attorney [Last Name],
I am writing to respectfully bring to your attention serious concerns regarding potential violations of federal law by the e-commerce platform eBay, as well as certain sellers operating within its marketplace. These concerns center on the continued advertisement and sale of unlawfully marked or misrepresented numismatic items, which may constitute violations of, but are not limited to:
The Hobby Protection Act (HPA), which requires that imitation numismatic items be permanently and conspicuously marked to prevent consumer deception.
The Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in commerce.
The U.S. SAFE WEB Act, which enhances the Federal Trade Commission’s authority to combat cross-border fraud and deceptive practices affecting U.S. consumers.
Despite public awareness of these issues and the availability of reporting mechanisms, large numbers of imitation coins, medals, and tokens — often lacking the legally required “COPY” marking — continue to be listed and sold on eBay. Many of these items are presented in a manner that could mislead buyers into believing they are purchasing genuine numismatic pieces. The platform continues to collect listing fees, commissions, and other revenue from these transactions, raising significant questions about its role and responsibility in preventing the sale of items that violate federal law and its own stated policies.
This concern is underscored by the Deferred Prosecution Agreement entered in the U.S. District Court on January 11, 2024, in which federal authorities addressed serious compliance failures by eBay in a separate matter. That agreement demonstrates that the Department of Justice has already found it necessary to impose corrective measures on the platform to address unlawful conduct. The persistence of improperly marked numismatic items despite such federal oversight suggests that additional review and enforcement may be warranted.
It is important to note that these concerns are not limited to isolated consumer complaints. Members of respected online numismatic forums — including moderators, administrators, and contributors ranging from amateur collectors to some of the most recognized professionals in the field — have documented and reported these violations to eBay for years. Many of these individuals are considered among the top experts in numismatics, with decades of experience in authentication, grading, and market analysis. Their repeated efforts to alert eBay to clear violations of both federal law and the platform’s own policies have often been met with inaction or inadequate enforcement.
These experts have provided detailed evidence, including photographs, seller histories, and item numbers, yet non-compliant numismatic listings frequently remain active or reappear shortly after removal. This pattern raises concerns about whether eBay’s internal compliance monitoring — including any corporate policy enforcement teams or automated detection systems — is functioning effectively, or whether there is a systemic failure to prioritize the removal of illegal listings when doing so may reduce revenue.
The ongoing facilitation of improperly marked imitation numismatic items not only harms individual collectors — many of whom may have limited recourse after being misled — but also damages legitimate dealers, erodes trust in the numismatic marketplace, and undermines the integrity of the hobby. The Hobby Protection Act was enacted to protect collectors from deceptive practices in the sale of imitation coins and related items, yet its effectiveness is diminished when large-scale online platforms fail to enforce compliance among their sellers.
Given the scope of these concerns, the documented expertise of those raising them, and the precedent set by the January 11, 2024 DPA, I respectfully request that your office consider initiating an investigation into whether eBay’s current practices, policies, and enforcement mechanisms meet the requirements of these federal statutes. Such an investigation could help determine whether the platform is taking adequate steps to prevent the sale of non-compliant numismatic items, whether it is profiting from unlawful activity, and whether additional enforcement action is warranted to protect collectors and ensure fair competition.
I am prepared to provide further information, including documented examples of non-compliant numismatic listings, transaction records, communications with those who have tried and failed with the platform, and statements from recognized numismatic experts who have attempted to work with eBay to
Can somebody give me the Cliff Notes version of this thread?
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Counterfeits bad. Something must be done. Write a letter and demand law enforcement do something.
Sign it "Redfeather".
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It appears clear to me that we’re communicating with a real person, who’s sincere and making an effort. And whatever the shortcomings of his efforts, at least he’s trying, Many other posters here have also tried, while it’s likely that many others haven’t. That’s their choice but I think that @Uncle_Bingo deserves better treatment than he’s received.
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@MFeld : Thank you, Where I come from that kind of thing still means something. I might hit you up at a later date about the others you have mentioned that have tried and failed. I have not quite got the search function down on this board yet or I would have just looked for myself
@geseas :
HI G,
I saw your name pop up under the gentleman's above post and happy you agree that I am at least carbon based and not silicon
Does this bring back memories or what? That question was just for you to ponder and reflect upon, no need to reply.
I will not ask a friend to jump in here, I got this.
I decided to come alone this time; I made a mistake once a long time ago taking a whole little" village" with me to fight one of those mythical dragons. It is not a story with a very happy ending, SO Enough said///
I better make 2 posts in an effort to find a little clarity here.
the search function here doesn't work properly
try google with this added: site:forums.collectors.com added in the text box
@JBK So I took some of this advice, but I cannot /will not sign that AI assisted letter yet, Because I will not put my name on it until it is the TRUTH . I have referred to Computers as Silicon based life forms, most of my life. (I think that may have been Roddenberry)
Who planted that seed although the concept could be far older depending on what book you read.
TLDR might be a thing in this day and age, but it sounds more like an excuse some might tell themselves so they can go back and watch some mindless babble on snap chat, or TikTok, or whatever. It is really kind of sad if you think about it; They don't even teach cursive to kids anymore. So certain archives in this world could possibly be forgotten and TLDR rules unless it is digitized edited and condensed. That is a slippery slope IMHO
Reminds me of the burning of books at Alexandria to heat the baths of the conquers or so one version of the story goes.
Back to that letter, it's still a little long IMO.
While fighting with that AI I was kind of trying to get it to understand that it cannot predict the future, and that it may be confusing what is, with what could be.
It took a little coaxing to get the body of the letter close to what I wanted it to say. but that closing is something else.
I wished the HPA had a little more on its own, I left several Statutes out because I figure any good attorney at that level would not really like to be told something they already know, any more than any expert in whatever their field may be.
When that letter gets to the end where I have to declare what I am prepared to do? That is where the struggle begins for me,
I could just write in" whatever it takes", but that would be silly. those guys don't know me from Adam. (not a religious reference BTW) whatever name you want to replace Adam with also depends on What book you read.
I could go on but I need sleep /
Hey, I do need to say something to anyone who is reading this. I'm sorry about this passive aggressive thing I got going on,
It is extremely useful in my professional life; it is not handy at all when typing something to people who don't even know me.
I am trying to work on it .
Just my 2 cents....
It's still way too long and wordy. You could say the same thing with half the words.
Also, it seems to be primarily aimed at eBay. If the issue is counterfeits then the net has to be cast much wider.
There is an unnecessary reference to an earlier ebay case. That legal action had to do with a harassment and intimidation campaign some high-ranking eBay executives launched against a pair of online critics. It had nothing to do with counterfeits or sales practices.
I don't know if there are already any precedents covering auction sites, but eBay will probably argue that they are just a platform that brings buyers and sellers together. They will also argue that they already have rules in place prohibiting the listing of counterfeit or illegal items, and that they have review and reporting processes to enforce those rules. If your case is centered around eBay and they are successful in their response, then your whole case goes away.
As I had suggested earlier, issues with jurisdiction and intent will make it a difficult battle, so the plan of attack must be very carefully constructed so the whole thing doesn't collapse if you lose one line of argument.
Ya, I know it's a little long, and I also know I said I was going to keep this close to vest. The universe obviously had a different idea. I read a couple different versions of that letter, trust me some were much longer, some that had multiple attachments,
some wanting affidavits and the like. stuff easily dismissed,,,,, just too much on a " first date". LOL
I am not very good with using anything the very first time and I would try to export the file, and I have no flipping idea where it went. So, I just copied the text and put it here and on Vam world so I could figure out what to cut and what to close with.
Your mention of the earlier case is noted; however, I must respectfully disagree.
Can I ask you if you actually read all 87 pages of the DPA?
That question is not designed to be antagonistic BTW .
I don't have anything personal against eBay, other than what has been stated.
I have spent my fair share on that platform mainly for hobby purposes.
Even had to use the guarantee a handful of times.
I used to own one of these" message boards" a long time ago, I found 12 people over the course of a few years that were smarter than me and a handful with different views to keep it honest. (No need to search for it, I tried to hide it from the search engines,,,,,, call it the "light grey web" and not the Dark one. I also turned the lights off and shut the door best as I could when I left.
Call it a think tank if you will. the primary function was educational, research based and I guess in reality just a place to hang out, far away from the noise many boards had back then.
I didn't want any one's secrets... I said that several times knowing full well anyone with any computer skill at all, who really cared about what we were talking about (not that anyone would) but they could have easily got past the minimal security. I also told them that the rest of the world already thought we were nuts. so, it wasn't really an issue.
There was so much research data shared. Closet thing I have seen to that board is the NNP archive. The AI might very well have had trouble keeping up IMO . That AI is not quite ready for anything other than a research tool for my needs yet, however it can assist in writing a letter, I guess. I will thank ever one of you here for that suggestion.
I have never really been a member of the " Black helicopter, tinfoil hat" CLUB, that stuff can mess with some folk's minds, and they could end up self-living under a bridge, or worse. I had to say more than one time back then that although I was not a big conspiracy nut.
If a few of those guys were not just a little bit paranoid about what every one of us had witnessed on the other boards, (the Darkside of that hobby) then they probably weren't paying attention.
It wasn't aliens, or illuminati or new world order that I was talking about
It was greed in others, and I felt that it could very well be a legitimate concern,
I asked Siri today about Operation Redfeather, she got the part about me being the founder wrong. it was not my idea I don't want the credit for someone else's inspiration. and just so we are clear I don't speak for anyone on the VAMWORLD forum.
I came alone this time on purpose,
This little quest might be just a tiny bit more dangerous than the last one I was involved with. and if I got to do it alone I will.
but I don't believe I am alone. Even if all I get is positive energy from a group, and the coin community is a pretty big group IMO , all wishing the same thing and hoping for some good to come of it .
How could I be ?
Every one of us that is not a thief anyway ,,, already knew.
"You ever skin Grizz Pilgram ? You skin that one and I'll bring you another " Jerimiah Johnson
if a lawyer ever reads it, probably never, they won't have time to look up additional statutes and regulations not in the letter
and this is true of all platforms. they will cite their policies and efforts then use the term "whack-a-mole."
the letter needs to provide actionable items.
The ultimate TLDR.
No, I did not, and I don't intend to. And therein lies the problem. I actually have a preexisting interest in this issue, and I'm not inclined to read 87 pages of a court document that is peripheral to the purpose of your letter. What chance do you stand with someone who is not already interested in the issue?
It will be necessary to effectively communicate the issue before expecting anyone to give a hoot.
That is too bad. Have a great day
That case had been discussed multiple times on this forum. It was a harassment case involving people who were all terminated from ebay as a result of their actions. It has ZERO to do with counterfeits. You might as well point us to the briefs in the Lindbergh kidnapping.
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Thank you for your comment. I figured some people already knew that part. The DPA is like a deal to avoid further repercussions for some previous wrong doing .the company agrees to be on its best behavior [go and sin no more] kind of thing . An Independent monitoring firm is supposed to be keeping an eye on ebay , almost like a adult parole and probation officer would keep an eye on an individual that may have been convicted and released but the state feels the individual needs to be monitored for some appropriate time there after.
Part of any arrangement like that requires that no matter the previous act .the guilty party must avoid participation in any illegal activity. Even if it had nothing to do with whatever infraction the original charges were. I did not make this this complex arrangement .
The judicial system did . I hope that I have not wasted anyone's time . Don't take my word for it .I am not a lawyer.
I am NOT asking anyone to hit like and subscribe. Those that do good with That.
Good for them!
You should be happy for folks who are successful with that kind of thing as long as it does no harm
I am not seeking fame. I have been famous before and I Do NOT care for such things .
I have my eye on the prize.
AND in case you don't know what that prize is I will tell you.
A guy is supposed to leave this world, in better shape than when he found it.
Thank you for your time. I will let you guys go back to coins now.
For what it’s worth, I think that @JBK has been providing you with excellent feedback and advice.
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I don't say this often but cancer pain and morphine fog aside ; i don't think I have a clue what this is all about. James
You are going to have a hard time claiming that eBay is "selling counterfeits " and therefore engaging in criminal activity. If they are, so is every social media company, as well as the post office and every shipping company.
That said, my understanding is that DPA are specific agreements covering specific actions.
Lindbergh baby
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This is true, and is being 100% ignored. Hence why some people are not regarding the OP as a serious person.
i'm so sorry to hear this and hope you go into remission
did you spend any time reading all the documents?
I read some but find it a little confusing to be told on a coin site, in a coin thread, "You can go back to your coins now." Then what was this all about and why is it here? James
I am unfogged by cancer or morphine and I know for a fact I don't have a clue what this is about. I just see a random new poster with WALLS of text and then reasonable posts from reasonable, regular posters contradicting/clarifying/advising and then more GIANT WALLS OF TEXT
I've read almost none of it. The word "quixotic" keeps floating through my mind.
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@MsMorrisine . Just ignore the other stuff, as I said, things tend to get mentally foggy around here. Just caught myself putting the hamburger to thaw for Thursday dinner in the tupperware cupboard. I have major surgery in January so will see what life is like on the other side then. thanks for asking. James
This was the clue that was needed to unlock the meaning. It all makes sense now.
i appreciate the enthusiasm
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Pete
Im not very good with using this particular message board so I am not going to be able respond to each members thoughts with quoted small exerts from each post.
I have pretty thick skin so no need for anyone to worry about that . Not that anyone was.
Just sayin
I have in fact listened to every word that has been said on here and the coin comunity forum as well.
Thank you for Redfeather book idea it's going to make a great Christmas present.
I think I admitted how hard this was going to be to follow in the lead post.
As far as me saying the part about letting you good folks getting back to your coins? The truth is I cannot sustain a social media presence across 3 message boards.
I came here 3 1/2 years ago and looked around and said to myself ."nope: .this right here is the big dance," and I could not find a way to really contribute so I left.
I saw the black hole picture in here and thought more of an event horizon.
Having a little trouble with the Lindbergh baby reference.
I think that happened before I was born and the only thing I recall was the whole country looking for the child, I could have that part wrong and may have to look it up when I get a second.
Quoting this post will only make the wall of text higher so not really much I can do about that .
A friend who I have never met asked for help. His ask,although somewhat technical hit home with me. Not because of his title or status, but because I thought he was a solid human and could use a hand.
Maybe I will buy a roll of those stamps for an Elementary School teacher that has been teaching her students about what the words on our coinage really stand for.
Can you imagine the impact a class of little kids drawing pictures in crayon would look like?
Maybe some of the suggestions and ideas have already started in motion.
Multiple ideas could work IMHO
And belive it or not although somewhat circumstantial I think I may have already seen a couple examples bare fruit.
I came here and to the family friendly forum and asked for help
And I got it.
This doesn't end here ?it is just the beginning IMO
So thank you again
highlight what you want to delete and do it. just be sure that new paragraphs start with a > and a space for it to show as a quote
there are state quarter collectors here. you fit right in
I am afraid they would not find my participation there helpful. The quarter story is a real touchy subject that I do not want to discuss and It has nothing to do with an old internet forum .
Cancer has caused me more pain than you can possibly imagine .mMy heart broke just a liite bit reading one of the post above .my heart goes out to the poster and family and I must admit I have no idea who you folks are in the real world. I saw my buddy G and that was just enough to give me a little hope.you should not question my sincerity I feel that is unwarranted and how can one debate or even have a logical discussion with those not even willing to look at the evidence presented ?
Thank you for the suggestion but I'm gonna pass on the quarter forum You know I kind of knew what I was in for before I clicked back to this place I even asked for permission through the moderator report a post functions and sent the first three links somewhere.
Just so we are clear I did not know everything when I came looking for help and I tryed to acknowledge the things learned here and at the family fourum by acting appropriately.and incorperating those ideas .These other ideas and suggestions that maybe seemed I was ignoring
were things I already knew before I ever came . So forgive me if it looked like that was something else.