GTG - Flying Eagle and Indian Cent Eagle Eye submission - REVEALED
WACoinGuy
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Just got back two coins that I sent in for Eagle Eye photo seal review. Thought I'd do a guess the grade reveal. Guess (a) the grade and (b) whether it got the photo seal.
Since the photo seal can be dependent on grade, I'll reveal the grade first and then give people a second chance to guess if it got the photo seal or not.
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ms63
ms64rd
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MS63
MS64RD
MS63
MS64RB
FE MS63
IC MS64
FE - MS62 & yes to EEPS. But if it’s graded MS63 - no to EEPS. Lots of hairlines makes it 62 to my eyes.
IHC - MS 64RD & yes to EEPS.
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PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
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Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
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I overlooked the photo seal part of the guess the grade post. I have no experience with the photo seals and requirements, so it was probably just as well.
I was going to reveal the grades first and then the EEPS result - but seems everyone nailed the grades, so here's the full reveal - they both got it!
The flying eagle also got an S-2 designation .. though I'm not sure what exactly what variety that is (haven't been able to find this mentioned online for 1858 SL).
You know what - I completely missed that Rick had included an issue of Longacre's Ledger with my coins that details the 1858 SL varieties (it was so well wrapped with cardboard I thought it was just packaging). Looks like it's a better variety to boot!
@WACoinGuy: you raise a good point about not finding what the variety is. My version of Rick’s book is older & the summary chart @ the end of each date/variety shows it as a 2* rating in his system. That is a fairly tough one (his system tops out @ 5*).
But in the section where he describes each variety, under the S-2 it simply states “No variety”. As “2” is a low #, my assumption is it was formerly thought to be a variety, but was later refuted. I’m going to check with him today about another one & will ask him about this.
In the meantime, if any member has a more up to date version of his book that might include the variety, please weigh in here.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Rick was kind enough to send me a copy of Longacre's Ledger volume 27.3, issue #101 that describes this variety where it is called High Leaves, Enhanced Letters. Here is what it says:
"Obverse 18 (RE): There is evidence of reworking of a few of the letters of the legend, but not all. The eagle also looks like it was reimpressed into the die. The UNITED is fully repunched. Only the S, T and final S is repunched. The AMER of AMERICA is repunched. The letters that are not repunched show extreme die wear and the repunched letter are crisp and bold. This the broken U hub.
Reverse T1-O: This is cataloged as a reworked die and is similar to all the other reworked dies found for the 1858 Small letters dies. It is a 2-star variety and with the High Leaves reverse should get a good premium (MS65 $7,500 - $10,000). The original listing for S2 was delisted as a duplicate of S1, in an early die state."
Glad I sent it in for photo seal - I've had this coin 20 years and never knew. And shoutout to Rick for sending me this newsletter - I always love reading the details about cool varieties!
I’ll add: Rick also sent me this issue. It was one of the best Longacre’s Ledgers I’ve ever read. In addition to the OP’s description above, there’s a complete synopsis of the 1858 SL, which includes all the varieties.
FE aficionados would do well to access this particular issue. The OP cites it in his post above.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon