Jefferson Nickels Full Steps
alaura22
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Can a full step Jefferson nickel still be considered full steps if it has a vertical hit on the steps?
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Many FS examples exhibit hits on the steps, but it’s a matter of their size, placement, depth and subjectivity in awarding the designation.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Does FS mean 5 or 6?
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Here is a pic
Mike
My Indians
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Not FS even without the hit.
Hummm, so why do you think our hosts graded it full steps?
Mike
My Indians
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I wonder how recent that coin was designated "full steps"?
Recently
With in the past year
Mike
My Indians
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They make mistakes.
Generally no if that hit bridges more than one step. The coin you posted is not FS and nobody should pay FS money for it. I see that you mentioned PCGS graded it FS, that is wrong, graders make mistakes and this is one of those.
Depends, at PCGS you only need 5, NGC will designate if the coin has 5 or 6 in their opinion. Six step coins get a points boost in the NGC registry over those graded as 5 steps and also PCGS graded coins as those are treated as 5 step coins.
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Thanks all for the input
So to be clear, what keeps it from being full steps?
Mike
My Indians
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No It is not FS because the hit bridges a step line negating that step as one of the 5 needed. That is a 2 step coin. BTW - Its a great coin strike. It appears to be a 60's era jeff and that is a good strike for one. Is that a 68-S?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1115152/how-many-complete-steps-do-you-see/p1
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
This thread is a good example for why I sold my collection and turned my back on the designation more than 20 years ago. PCGS does not grade these coins and assign the designation according to their printed description.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
That's odd. Its kinda important to some collectors, as they see fit thou
I would call it "5 full steps". A very thin line like that should not negate the designation in my opinion. If the line was wider and/or deeper then yes, it might prevent it from being "Full-Steps".
If a Full-Head Standing Liberty Quarter had a shallow small thin line like that across the head, I don't think that would negate the "Full-Head" status. It shouldn't prevent this nickel either.
So what we're saying here is: You ask ten different people, you get ten different answers.
That's it, it's official. This entire hobby and the numismatic profession is subjective.
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Brian, it's a 1945-d
Mike
My Indians
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The hit that bridges the steps is an automatic disqualifier. Additionally from the photo the fourth and fifth step are merged under the third column and that also disqualifies this coin from FS designation. The one problem is that photos don't always tell the full story on FS. I've seen coins that don't look FS in one photo but when you change the angle of the coin/photo the separation of the steps is there. Ultimately there are some borderline examples that are difficult to know from a photo only, need to see the coin at different angles sometimes. In the end it's up to each person to decide for themselves if they agree with both the grade and any designation given by any TPG.
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