Guess the grade of this 1927 Saint?
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Since there's no picture, I'll say MS64.
I'll guess MS65 and cert number 184247461.
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AU details, but the coin was previously in another TPGs holder as MS66.
I'll go with NA-404
If it is an S mint sample,then it is above my pay ' grade'.
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I see light wear. AU55 or58.
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Don’t see that date and MM often. Looks like a bit of circulation. AU58.
Light friction, nice luster.
58+
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Note rim defect at between 9 and 10 o'clock. This could almost "details" some coins, but guessing this snuck by at 65 with good lustre even if a bit of soft strike across brow and bridge of nose.
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Ditto.
“Guess the grade of this 1927 Saint?”
I’m not going to guess the grade becaise I think I recognize the coin. But I’m surprised that you asked about a rare issue and neglected to mention the mintmark.
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MS63
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I'm going to guess 60. But clearly there are others in this thread who know far more about Saints than I do.
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MS63
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58+
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MS 63
There looks like something odd on the surface of the sun in addition to the distracting rim nick. At AU58 or 58+ the pricing is low so I picked 63
AU-55...but it could be higher because this is a key date rarity for the Registry folks. It's a 1927-S, not a 1927.
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This is a 1927-S Saint. I call it the poor man’s 1927-D Saint.
Personally, I would have given it a details grade for that rim issue, but I'm guessing MS64 from the dinner plate sized photos.
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This coin was graded AU-58+ by CACG. Fabulous luster offsetting stacking rub on the high points. Normally considered an AU-63 by knowlegeable graders. But the tiny rim defect certainly gets the coin net graded to an AU-58+ by the CACG graders.
I received the coin today and the large photo overstates the size of the rim defect.
I prefer this AU-58+ Saint over the CAC approved MS-64 Saint.
How are we/you defining "stacking rub".....and is it normally considered circulation wear such that an MS grade is out and you have to start with AU and go from there ?
BTW, nice coin.
I don't recall seeing this coin on the CAC Forum but I may have subconsciously noticed the grade (as I now see it's in a thread title there by the same OP) and then "guessed" it here.
I like to think I would have made the same guess but in the interest of transparency, I'll willing forfeit all points earned and prizes accumulated.
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I always assumed that the majority of mint state high relief Saints were denied CAC stickers when there was even a hint of luster break due to stacking or rub, but the MS64 CAC example above is making me scratch my head.
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Ok. Since I also guessed right I'll take all of Lermish points earned and prizes accumulated. (Also not sharing with @Walkerguy21D as he only guessed "Ditto".)
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I'm not sure where you got that idea, but a look at GC's upcoming auctions shows that the majority of CAC MS Saints (strong majority) show very similar levels of friction.
I referred to high relief saints, very few of them have stickers, and I assumed there was a very strict standard for very expensive coins
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That combination needs an American Gothic meme done by you.
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/82290988/American-gothic
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Ha, funny! I'm the meme guy though, @IkesT is the photoshop guy.
ah shucks! - I was going to say ..... harshly cleaned with a wire brush, then hit with a hammer on both sides. Come 'on Oreville - you always have nice coins............
Just hopefully similar to your ultra nice coins.