Comic Art 24-Karat Gold Proof Coin – Wonder Woman™ - On sale Thursday, November 13th
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I personally have zero interest in this gold coin.
I must admit there is a certain 'hotness' factor on this issue.
I guess if you are a diehard Comic Art fan, this coin could be on your radar.
Anyone considering this gold Wonder Woman coin?
Silver medal?
Price: TBD
Mintage Limit: 10,000
Product Limit: 10,000
Household Order Limit: 1
ats: 9,991
Comic Art 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal – Wonder Woman™
Price: $275
Mintage Limit: 25,000
Product Limit: 25,000
Household Order Limit: 1
ats: 24,991
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I know it’s Wonder Woman, but I like it more than several of the recent depictions of Liberty! The obverse design in particular is very clean and aesthetically pleasing - no mottos and privy marks cluttering the fields.
Among the other coins in the Comic Arts series, I feel that this one has the best design but I'm not sure I'm going to buy it.
I'm sure it will look better in hand but these pics make it look so flat -- there's virtually no detail to the birds' chests and feet on the reverse.
Ten years ago and without the absurd premium, I'd probably have been all over this series. Today, I can barely convince myself to get the silver. If gold ever becomes cheap again, I might consider it. By that time the premium on these will have likely dissipated.
How many more comic coins are in the Mint pipeline? I can see a race to the bottom for the final mintage totals in this series.
Agree, this WW design oozes Liberty. I'm all-in in for the Gold & 2.5oz Medal.
The Obverse stars and every other stripe-(mirrored) of the flag in the background will really pop imo.
The Earth in the background on the Reverse is a nice touch and saved it.
It looks like 9 in total. Agree on the race.
3 this year, and.....
I like the design. I like the idea of the gold. I very much dislike the price.
Just a handful of U.S. coins depict the subject on both obverse and reverse.
The Batman coin also though right? Still a small list and it kinda makes it cool
If you’re talking all “U.S. coins”, the Lincoln Memorial cents have Abe on both sides—though he’s a bit tiny on the reverse! He’s larger on the two 2009 bicentennial commemorative cents that feature Lincoln on the reverse
And Superman
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Better artwork depicting WW than most of the mint's artwork on people's images.
However, given the cost, I won't be in.
Likely need to really love it as a collectible and to HAVE to have it, as I believe the prices will drop in the aftermarket in the years to come.
If they go up, it will likely be like most of the 1st spouse gold coins...only due to value of the metals
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Agree.
When the Mint and DC announced the collaboration, they indicated that the plan was for a total of nine characters.
Source: https://www.usmint.gov/content/dam/usmint/shop/program-landing-pages/comic-art/FY24-USM-DC Comics-Fact Sheet.pdf
Price announced today.
edited to add: ats: 9,978
seems like the product code should be 36DDWW
Superman gold 5,945 minted so far
Batman 2,048
Wonder Woman 1,000-1,500?
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Well, I think $5000 ounce gold is in the cards but $6540 an ounce may be a bridge too far. if the liberty was still available it’d only be $5015.
Unlike past releases, it appears that almost the entire mintage of the WW coin is already loaded 9978 pieces available to sell (ats)
So all of today's release are on per-order! When they will actually ship them?
I heard February as well. This actually might be kind of an advantage since you preorder--see where the gold price goes and decide to either cancel or wait for delivery. $5K gold might be possible but over $6K gold might be a stretch. Then again, I never thought we'd be where we are now either.
Not moving fast.......
not the best design. not the most sought after series. but at what point will the USM price of gold make people stop collecting gold coins?
6500+/oz
come on USM. thats insane.
Did anyone order anything today? I’m tempted to order one 1 oz from each design out but it’s most likely financial suicide! Beside the fact that they will probably be on sale for years on the website.
Hard pass.
Yes, I should have said sold, not minted. Although, I am not convinced the ATS number is that reliable anymore. They would be crazy to actually mint the 10,000 ahead of very low pre-sale indicators.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Usually a release late in the year can be a low mintage coin, but ww has been struck to euphoric numbers. If the inventory numbers are correct this coin may be up for sale for 3 to 5 years. The lowest sales of the nine coins will possibly fall to 1200, and it may the the batgirl coin in 2027. These should follow the spouse coin pattern.
Batman has barely broken 2000 coins so far.
Not a good opening day for Wonder Woman.
ats: 9010
No, but totally predictable, based on the performance of her predecessors and the massive premium demanded by the Mint and DC. They really need to rethink the pricing and mintages for the rest of the series, because this is really an embarrassment for both of them, after all the fanfare prior to launch.
Look at the Gold pricing Grid. It makes zero sense. The premium over Spot for these things stay constant at 61.5%. if gold rises or falls.
With the Gold Eagles. The percentage over spot actually declines as gold rises.
Who came up with this insanely stupid pricing. They becomes more and more expensive over spot as gold rises. Thought that the USM worked on a fixed price. Guess not.
Correct. It's the deal they made with DC. Protects you when spot falls, but kills you when spot rises.
It honestly does not matter, because the premium to spot is so insane, given how high spot is, that no one who is price sensitive will have any interest regardless. Which is why they all sit, each successive one more so than those who came before.
As I said in my post above, they really need to rethink the pricing, mintages, or both. Because as it stands, the series is an embarrassment to both the Mint and DC, and will only get worse over the next two years, as the subjects become less popular and the series becomes a total zombie. Doing nothing good for the reputation of either party.
Don't worry, the coin buyers will be rethinking this for the mint.
Actually, the coin buyers have already spoken loud and clear. Superman went from having HHLs of 1 on opening day to still being available, in all flavors, months later.
The question now is whether the Mint and DC continue on this path, and continue to embarrass themselves, or if they rethink pricing and/or mintages. Or just pull the plug now because the demand simply isn't there at the prices they want or need, while claiming to short strike in demand product because, allegedly, they have production constraints.
I was 7 or 8 first time I saw "The Birds" didn't sleep for a week...
Great movie
now the birds is a tame movie
6-7
I doubt that DC wants to do anything as they are probably very happy with the premiums the mint promised to them. The mint is also unlikely to do anything as they have their hands full with the 250th anniversary coins for next year, and these comic coins were probably not expected to be big sellers, despite the rosy mintage limits.
The only gold coin that will probably carry any sort of premium over the others raw is possibly the lowest mintage of the batch, and that will likely happen in two years from now, In figure sales, the female figures are usually the lowest sellers, so if it translates to these coins, it will be batgirl or supergirl as the lowest.
Maybe. Maybe not. There was lots of fanfare when they announced the partnership.
The coins are not selling. This is not a good look for either the Mint or DC. If you think DC is "probably very happy with the premiums the mint promised to them" given the very tepid sales, I think you are probably very wrong. Unless DC is getting its money off the top, no matter how many coins sell. I very highly doubt that is the case.
Neither the Mint nor DC care about future premiums. They care about selling them now. Demand is the flip side of supply when determining future premiums. If no one wants them, it's not going to matter how few are made. We have so many examples of this, it should go without saying.
The coins are not selling. This is not good for them. The Mint having its hands full with 250th anniversary coins is yet another reason not to want to have to produce and market 3 gold coins and 6 silver medals no one has any interest in next year.
ats: 8,732
edited to add: HHL lifted
The mint is likely patting themselves on the back with the success of this comic coin series. They have sold more than some predicted, so to them it has outperformed so far. You may not like the prices, and I may not like the prices, but the coins have sold more than some recent commemorative gold coins. While I wouldn't buy them do to the similarity to the spouse series, many others are buying. Also, the revenues due to the high price of gold make them seem popular
Each silver eagle 100k mintage privy brought in $10 million, while each gold comic coin will bring in over that amount. Next year the mint should have record revenues due to the 250th anniversary. They are not going to change a thing.
I hate the prices, but that's not the point. When they set mintage limits, they do so with a view towards hitting them.
They are not coming close with these, and each new one sells less than the one that came before. I seriously doubt anyone at either the Mint or DC is taking a victory lap here, and they still have two more years to go. These are going to get totally lost in the shuffle next year if they don't do something to try to fix it.
Comparing the revenue generated by 100K silver coins to the revenue generated by 5K gold coins makes no sense, when the gold coins cost 40x more to manufacture. Not to mention, based on sales trends, there will come a time when the gold coins don't even generate as much revenue as the silver ones.
The mint won't fix it because they don't see anything wrong, and are gearing up for 2026 now. They don't control the price of gold, so that is out of their hands. If the mint isn't cancelling the commemorative program with gold coins sales barely over 1k, I doubt they will do this program.
The mint runs a casino and as long as revenues go up, they will not change lanes. They just struck the last production "pennies", and are even selling those to make money. $10 million is a lot of money, times 9 coins. Plus the silver medals. We may not like the program, but the mint looks at it as a winner.