Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee Meeting Recap (October 2025)
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My name is Kellen Hoard, and I currently serve as one of the Representatives of the General Public on the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee. I am an undergraduate student, and the youngest person to ever serve on the Committee. For those of you unfamiliar with the CCAC, it was established in 2003 by Congress to advise the Secretary of the Treasury on the themes and designs of all US coins and medals. The CCAC serves as an informed, experienced and impartial resource to the Secretary of the Treasury and represents the interests of American citizens and collectors.
This is the eleventh installment of my updates about what the CCAC is doing at its meetings. I think it is critical that the collecting community have insight into and input to the CCAC, and will try to answer any questions you may have.
Here is my update for the CCAC meeting on October 21, 2025.
- The Fiscal Year 2025 Report was approved by the committee. This should hopefully be published publicly soon.
- Candidate designs for the 2027 American Liberty Gold Coin and Silver Medal were discussed. The CCAC recommended the following obverse and reverse designs:
Let me know if you have any questions about the work done in this meeting; I will try to answer as well as I can, but there are contraints on what I am able to share publicly. Please remember that the CCAC does not make the final decision; instead, it makes its recommendation (alongside the Commission of Fine Arts) to the Secretary of the Treasury. If you would like to watch the October meeting in full in order to see all of the deliberations, it is available on Youtube here.
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Groovy!
I like it 👍
The FONT 👎
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Thank you, Kellen.
Thanks for your effort. Wishing you the best.
Thank you for the updates.
I think the designs recommended are quite cool and it appears to me that the lettering is largely incuse and will be brilliant against the fields. I think it is really cool and they only needed to put flowers in her hair instead of stars!
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Are the coins images generated by CAD?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
I like the design on both sides very much.
Is Lady Liberty inspired by Sydney Sweeney?
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A less bored look on Liberty's face would be nice. Give us strong or joyful, not tired of holding the torch.
Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states
Oof....there were some woke stinkers in those designs. A butch bald chick? Seriously? With variants of it that look like tats? I liked the Pegasus design and the gray wolf even more.
That late 60's font just looks awful in my opinion.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
More like the "How much longer do I have to stand here holding this torch?" look.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
Kellen - Thanks again for posting your monthly meeting summaries! Greatly appreciated!
Like many of the recent designs we’ve seen, “Oh well”.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Liberty looks sad. Or very serious.
Sorry, but for the fact that the cartoonish font represents a lack of commitment on the designs being put forth and selected by your committee, says to me we have completely moved beyond artistry and talent. As if a kid with a c&c machine is now considered and acceptable numismatic artist. This is beyond my appreciation. Kellen, I do appreciate your time and input to the forum to keep us informed, but its no longer something I care to view. JMO
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Heavy duty Art Nouveau! I wonder if Alphonse Mucha would approve?
The last three coin designs that were well received involved nature and animals, so that theme could have been followed going forward beyond another eagle. Some of the designs are so far out there it is hard to believe that these are serious artists.
Does the committee have the option of declining to recommend any of the designs? Or do they have to choose from among the proposals?
If interested, votes for each proposed design begin around the 1:54:30 mark:
Yes, that is an option, and it was raised by some members this time.
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The recommended design is far and away the best!
good eye
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
Leaning particularly heavily on Alphonse Mucha (not that I'm complaining)
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I think a New England Shilling is better looking than any of those “artistic” coins.
I see the new post by @Russell12 that all CFA members have been fired (Commission of Fine Arts). Their function is different than CCAC.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Awful designs in my opinion. Pass
I'd like to thank the Mint for saving me money in 2027.
Maybe they can still pick this one.
Lawrence Talbot approves!
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I'm hoping they go with the wolf. Don't know about the reverse. I haven't really looked at the reverse designs.
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
Wolf looks pretty damn good!
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Of all the candidate designs, the wolf (a predator) says "Liberty" the least.
Maybe that was what was intended.
Free Bird !!!!
Suddenly, the Eunice Shriver commemorative is looking like the Mona Lisa. We’ll be looking back at this design, longing for the days of true “classical artistry”.
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Maybe that's why they were fired (the CFA), and not a minute too soon.
I don't think the CFA is involved with coin design.
They are - almost every coin/medal series the CCAC reviews is also reviewed by the CFA.
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CCAC Representative of the General Public
2021 Young Numismatist of the Year
Are the coins images generated by CAD?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
If that is the case then you should expect some big changes in the near future.
The Art Nouveau influence is obvious- I agree with TomB that flowers or even some type of viny laurel in her hair would be an improvement. The look of Ms. Liberty is typical for how women were portrayed at that time. I would replace the eagle with a different eagle- perhaps something comparable to the eagle on the Illinois Commem or even the Peace Dollar. The eagle really compromises the whole Art Nouveau theme. The font is bold and has potential.
The larger issue is that it has this computer generated look instead of that hand crafted look which was part of the Art Nouveau Moment. If the coin has a chiseled look similar to EARLY 20th century coinage, this could be something special.
I will not hold my breath.
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Commercial art is increasingly computer generated. With the advent of AI generated art added you should expect to see a dramatic decline in originality. Don't be surprised if AI completely takes over the process of commercial art as it becomes cheap to produce.
You should also expect a movement in the art world to develop that completely rejects both computer generated and AI art. Will it catch on? Who knows?
Both of these could easily be a social commentary on the state of Liberty experienced in America for 2025. The indifference of Liberty… the predatory nature of the wolf. The highly visible erosion of the Constitution and BIll of Rights are represented in BOTH of these designs.
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The design of a honorable soldier refusing an unlawful order would be fitting too. 😲
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Are you trying to get yourself thrown into forum jail? 😟
I can't believe one of these didn't win.
We could have had the:
"Someone help me carry the groceries in" obverse.
or
"Bundled up for new assignment to Alaska" with a side of "side eye"
or
"No more deciding on hairstyles, now check out my new piercings and tats for the protest"
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@JBK No just an unfiltered and pre-coffee commentary, lol. I typically avoid reading the news about current events, but have a morbid compulsion this summer to be informed with the state of the world and our country. I was in Oxnard last week and witnessed some wild events and action. I saw assaults, kidnappings, helicopters, masked men dragging people into vans, followed by a mini heat wave and heat exhaustion, then did jury duty on Halloween. Life has been like a bad movie lately.
Edited to add: I think maybe this past week was a bit traumatic for me, still processing a lot.
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Think the following is an astute observation:
The cultural conversations Americans had with each other in the 1780s and 1790s sparked an ongoing national dialogue in which citizens have negotiated the terms of a national identity through coinage. Many Americans understood that coins could serve as monuments that would far outlast anything carved into stone. They still do today. And like citizens of the eighteenth-century they cannot agree on what images best represent the nation. Americans are constantly debating the stories that coins tell. Rhetorical iconography-- the product of ideology, culture, and the historical moment-- provides powerful illustrations of a nation’s progress. One need only see Benjamin Franklin’s designs in the context of the political turmoil of late eighteenth-century North America. Or, to take a more recent example, one might argue that Sacagawea’s appearance on the dollar coin is a product of the social movements of the 1960s and the culture wars of the 1990s. Coins and the interest they generate offer the historian another tool to measure the rhythms of American history. Contextualizing the iconography and measuring public perceptions provides markers of American identity as it has evolved. In examining the ways in with citizens have minted America, historians and the general public alike will find evidence of their past in the palm of their hand.
MINTING AMERICA: COINAGE AND THE CONTESTATION OF AMERICAN IDENTITY, 1775-1800, James Patrick Ambusk
@KellenCoin : bit dense, but given your service on the Committee might be of background interest re evolution of iconography :
https://archive.oah.org/special-issues/teaching/2005_03/article.pdf
From Royal to Republican: The Classical Image in Early America, Caroline Winterer
That was resignation not prostelyzation, and Moderation will read it that way. (Make us some hobo nickels if I err.)