Anybody recognize this PCGS slab? Having trouble locating it in the 'PCGS Museum of Coin Holders'.
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I bought a lot of 4 of these ASE's- 3 of the holders had a barcode on the front, but this one has the barcode on the reverse. It looks like a Gen 4 holder, but the label is entirely white. Just looking for some insight. Thanks!
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Artificially toned in slab.
Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
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Isn't this one of the HSN slabs?
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It is a gen 4 holder. The label has changed color (potenitally from being left out in the sun or being gassed).
In my opinion, the label was faded when they heat-treated the coin in the slab to induce the color.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
In Conder's book on the history of slabs, this layout was identified as being used from 1999-2002 for ASEs and some commems. This was used at the same time as most of the Gen 4.0 slab, but it is not the same information layout because there is no series or coin number information.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
When you deliberately tone the coin in the holder as you obviously do, the paper and/or coin will also be AT!!!
You know nothing about me. I'm a PCGS Authorized Dealer- do you think I would have made it through that application and approval process if I was altering coins or slabs? I bought this coin as is last week. Keep your drama to yourself.
So you think it is actually a different paper slab? And not faded as others suggest?
Oh, just saw your other comment. The weird thing is that it was purchased in a lot, with 2 others that had similar color, but in gen 4 holders with blue labels. It's almost like this one faded in the sun or something.
@raycyca said:
When you deliberately tone the coin in the holder as you obviously do, the paper and/or coin will also be AT!!!
You know nothing about me. I'm a PCGS Authorized Dealer- do you think I would have made it through that application and approval process if I was altering coins or slabs? I bought this coin as is last week. Keep your drama to yourself.
Don't mind him. He's still got his feelings hurt when PCGS didn't follow his strict timelines on a Kennedy submission.
Now he's on some type of vendetta where he's taking his frustration out on others.
The color is faded. It was produced in the same shade of blue as the Gen 4.0 slab cert and the paper color has changed over time.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
That makes a lot of sense- I got the impression he might be that type of person.
And furthermore- do you think if I myself cooked the holder until the label turned a different color, that I would post this on the message boards asking about the holder? How does that make any sense?
NO ONE WAS ACCUSING YOU. That was a generic "you". Like if I said, "you killed someone, you're going to go to jail" is meant as a generic statement of fact.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
"If you deliberately killed someone, which you obviously do, you're going to go to jail!!!" is more like what he said.
Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
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"As you obviously do", is very clearly an accusatory statement directed at me. Remove those 4 words from the comment, and it could possibly be interpreted as you say, but it's very clearly directed at me.
Perhaps so
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Replace, "Perhaps" with "definitely" and I am in agreement.
Silver eagles were tagged with a wide variety of tags by PCGS. The gold foil ones are buggers to read the cert numbers on, in particular. Then they also did signature labels as well.
Thread has gone off rails.
TomB has what would be my answer and then people decide to just keep fighting and arguing.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
You can still see some of the blue in the middle of the insert on the reverse side. I'm not sure whether it faded because of direct sunlight or gassing (the former I'm not sure would affect the reverse, but the latter I'd think would more evenly change both sides of the insert). Either way, I agree with the other folks saying it's a blue label that has turned.
I agree, I didn't expect to be defamed for asking a simple question, but it seems like there is drama here every time I do. In the face of libel, I think most people would find themselves on the defensive.