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1964-D Quarter with extra mint mark on Eagle's Head --from original roll

tincuptincup Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

Or at least it appears to be a 'D'... but could be odd die cracks?
Anyways, opened up an original BU roll of 1964-D quarters, and found multiple examples of this unusual coin. Appears to have the shape of a 'D' lopsided on the eagle's head. The size of the anomaly appears to be reasonably in line compared to the mint mark size. The shape has raised ridges, etc.; the inner area 'may' be slightly depressed but hard for my older eyes to tell.

As mentioned, could be odd die cracks? Some of the coin examples have some die cracks along the eagles beak, so appears that could be a possibility. What say you? Regardless, pretty intriguing to me at least! Goes to show... there are some neat coins still hidden out there!


----- kj

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You mean this?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pareidolia

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sorry I don't see it...

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    You mean this?

    Yes.

    ----- kj
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yours looks like a D but it's not.

    This is a D mint mark.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Pareidolia

    This term has certainly been overused in some cases. (Kind of like... 'You can't eat gold'). Definition of Pareidolia:

    "Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none."

    Like wise nebulous (stimulus):

    " hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused. "

    In the case of the coin(s) in question... the artifact is certainly there. And on multiple examples. It is not my imagination, nor is it hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused. The question is the potential cause.... errant mint mark, die cracks, a piece / flake broken off the die... etc... etc. Or just one of those.... no explanation; just an odd artifact.

    But I did ask for opinions... so do appreciate yours.

    ----- kj
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OK, tough crowd today. Sorry for sharing.

    ----- kj
  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Occasionally grease can fill the mint mark in the die, fall out and then create a dropped mint mark. Doesn’t really look like it here though. Maybe a small strike through. Regardless, I don’t see any additional value.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No telling what could have made that mark. A small laminatioin?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Project Numismatics said:
    Occasionally grease can fill the mint mark in the die, fall out and then create a dropped mint mark. Doesn’t really look like it here though. Maybe a small strike through. Regardless, I don’t see any additional value.

    Thanks... I started along that path also and don't rule it out. In the BU roll, I found 12-13 examples of the defect. The one in the photos is one of the sharpest with almost 'wire' type sharper edges. Some of the other are later versions, where the effect wears somewhat and is not quite so distinct. Oh well... guess I will put them away in my 'curious items' file.

    ----- kj
  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On my screen the mark looks like it is impressed into the coin. If that is the case then that alone means its not a stray D on the die, which would result in a raised anomaly.

    Also, it looks like the "D" shape is filled in, so that would preclude a dropped letter. (A dropped letter, either retained or fallen out, would still look like a proper D.)

    If the effect appears on multiple coins then I'd suggest that it's a struck-thru from something that stuck to the die, such as hardened grease.

    That's my take, anyway.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's a strike through

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  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's identical on multiple coins, then it's a small defect on the die, or a small foreign object adhering to the die.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tincup said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Pareidolia

    This term has certainly been overused in some cases. (Kind of like... 'You can't eat gold'). Definition of Pareidolia:

    "Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none."

    Like wise nebulous (stimulus):

    " hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused. "

    In the case of the coin(s) in question... the artifact is certainly there. And on multiple examples. It is not my imagination, nor is it hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused. The question is the potential cause.... errant mint mark, die cracks, a piece / flake broken off the die... etc... etc. Or just one of those.... no explanation; just an odd artifact.

    But I did ask for opinions... so do appreciate yours.

    Pareidolia is simply the tendency of the brain to interpret images as familiar objects [see the dryer above]. You interpret the random curved line as a "D". Other people would see a crescent moon, fire example, depending on their individual biases.

    It is not a mintmark, which was the main thrust of the question. Whether it is a die chip or minor damage, i can't say, so I didn't.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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