But is George Springer the straw that stirs the drink??? I don't think he is. There is only 1 Reggie. Although, George is from New Britain CT. He grew up about 2 miles from me (35 years apart though) I know the street he lived on because he lived a few houses down from my cousin.
Looks like Reggie's 3rd homer made the game 8-3 so was fairly marginal in impact. The second homer added valuable insurance runs. The problem with the impact argument is that multiple home runs then mean a lot less and just a single walkoff hit, or a game 7 pitching shutout like Koufax or Morris would easily be the top of the list. So it really is more of a box score argument to begin with and so I'd give my vote to Ohtani.
Also, as for Rick Wise, he may have been a pretty good hitter for a pitcher but I think it's quite reasonable to say his 2 home runs were a fluke and a boatload of luck. And of course any player who hits 3 (or more) in a game has to also have a boatload of luck on their side, but Ohtani, like Reggie, has the skills to make such a game that much less of a fluke.
@BLUEJAYWAY said:
It's said, you never forget your first. Both players did something special. No doubt there. Maybe, at least to some, Ohtani surpassed Reggie's feat. But having seen Reggie's event, and this is important, when I was more captivated by and more interested in baseball, his feat will stand the test of time for me. Again, not taking anything away from Ohtani, but for me Reggie got there first.
Yankmees70 isn't going to change his biased position no matter what Ohtani does. 'They will never forget you til somebody new comes along'.....Reggie Who? Ohtani
4 AB 2 HRs 3 Runs 4 Hits 3 RBIs 5 BB 0 Ks .283AVG 1.235 OPS
Move over Reggie(again). Ohtani game easily surpasses Reggie's three home run game especially considering how tight the game was all night and tips the balance of the WS.
Talk about respect when a player walks five (5) times in a game…and every time at- bat following his 2nd homer of the game…probably a World Series record. I will say Ohtani is easily the best player since Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ted Williams and Stan Musial in the post war era!
@mintonlypls said:
Talk about respect when a player walks five (5) times in a game…and every time at- bat following his 2nd homer of the game…probably a World Series record. I will say Ohtani is easily the best player since Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ted Williams and Stan Musial in the post war era!
And more remarkable...assuming he starts tonight, he'll add a pitching line on the same day (the game ended this morning around 3:00am)
Still going with Reggie. Ohtani is now a machine with built-in expectations. It can’t be avoided. His batflips have their own personalities. The Reggie game was unexpected and not duplicated or bettered until now. It fits snugly into the narrative of World Series Greatest Moments. That will never change.
If we are simply talking about World Series games and domination, how soon we forget! Albert Pujols' Game 3 of the 2011 WS in Texas was legendary!
Albert Pujols had 14 total bases with 3 HR and 2 singles. Now, we know Albert is a pitcher because he pitched in 2022 with the Cardinals.... It didn't go well! However, offensively, Game 3 in 2011 was the greatest individual offensive performance in World Series history and nobody even brings it up. I think Reggie gets thought about first because he was a Yankee and he was the first since Babe and did it on national TV. Pujols' game was better.
Both Reggie and Ohtani last night had 12 total bases BTW.
Yes, Ohtani may be the greatest of all time for a moderate length of time. What he is doing is unheard of and is mind blowing. I still want to see how his career finishes before I give him the GOAT crown. Just 5 years ago everybody was saying Mike Trout was in the conversation. He won't even get to 600 HR's and 500 isn't exactly automatic.
@BLUEJAYWAY said:
It's said, you never forget your first. Both players did something special. No doubt there. Maybe, at least to some, Ohtani surpassed Reggie's feat. But having seen Reggie's event, and this is important, when I was more captivated by and more interested in baseball, his feat will stand the test of time for me. Again, not taking anything away from Ohtani, but for me Reggie got there first.
Yankmees70 isn't going to change his biased position no matter what Ohtani does. 'They will never forget you til somebody new comes along'.....Reggie Who? Ohtani
4 AB 2 HRs 3 Runs 4 Hits 3 RBIs 5 BB 0 Ks .283AVG 1.235 OPS
Babe Ruth wasn’t even walked intentionally multiple times in a game. Ohtani set a record last night by walking five (5) times…previous record four (4)…Ortiz in 2013.
@mintonlypls said:
Talk about respect when a player walks five (5) times in a game…and every time at- bat following his 2nd homer of the game…probably a World Series record. I will say Ohtani is easily the best player since Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ted Williams and Stan Musial in the post war era!
But none of those guys could pitch. 😁 I think he has one comp for now. But even with Ruth, he was never really a full-time batter and pitcher in the same season. So in that way Ohtani is alone in being a certain type of player even though its been challenging to be both types of players often. Doing it at all is impressive though.
Gets tough to compare Ohtani to Ruth as a pitcher too in a sense because when Ruth was a full-time pitcher he was racking up 320 330 innings a year. Which was more the norm then and today the norm is more 150 to 180 IP.
Think Babe stopped being a full-time pitcher at about age 24. Dont get me wrong. Not taking anything away from Babe. I'd still say #1 as of today and he can still wear the crown. But Ohtani is about 30. Long way to go so he has the potential to wear it if he continues to rack up nice innings and great ABs.
I do think noone has ever reached the altitude of where Ohtani is at now with the combination of success with pitching and hitting. Does not mean he will be the greatest of all-time. But I think you can say noone was greater at one point in time. Similar to how you can make the case that there were better pitchers than Koufax but maybe noone ever was as good or better than him at his peak.
@80sOPC said:
Sounds like the Jays intend to walk Ohtani the rest of the series. Is there any precedent for that?
In the 2002 World Series, Angels pitchers walked Barry Bonds 13 times in 7 games; that's the most walks ever for one player in a single World Series. I don't know how many of those walks were officially classified as intentional. Bonds hit .471 in that World Series, going 8 for 17 with four homeruns, two doubles and six RBIs.
@ejk143 said:
Looks like Reggie's 3rd homer made the game 8-3 so was fairly marginal in impact. The second homer added valuable insurance run> @jraytay said:
@BLUEJAYWAY said:
It's said, you never forget your first. Both players did something special. No doubt there. Maybe, at least to some, Ohtani surpassed Reggie's feat. But having seen Reggie's event, and this is important, when I was more captivated by and more interested in baseball, his feat will stand the test of time for me. Again, not taking anything away from Ohtani, but for me Reggie got there first.
Yankmees70 isn't going to change his biased position no matter what Ohtani does. 'They will never forget you til somebody new comes along'.....Reggie Who? Ohtani
4 AB 2 HRs 3 Runs 4 Hits 3 RBIs 5 BB 0 Ks .283AVG 1.235 OPS
Asinine comments. Once again I'm not a Reggie fan. I disliked him since his insane comments about Munson. Still what he did in Game 6 of a World Series game easily topps the significance and importance of what Ohtani did in a NON World Series game in a 4 game blowout.
I already said that if Ohtani repeats his NLCS performance in the World Series I would change my mind. My opinion is based on the data and claiming I'm biased makes zero sense.
My comments are based on a one game performance - not how many walks or what a player hit in a series. Its based on what Reggie did in Game 6 of the 78 World Series and nothing more. I'm not saying Reggie is better which of course he's not.
@1948_Swell_Robinson said:
Move over Reggie(again). Ohtani game easily surpasses Reggie's three home run game especially considering how tight the game was all night and tips the balance of the WS.
The Dodgers were a 2-1 favorite and will most likely win this series in 5 games. There was never a moment last night once the game entered extra innings where I felt the Dodgers would lose, which is why I bet them during live betting after 10 innings.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt the series goes more than 5 games and 6 at the most. The Dodgers have a much better team.
Reggie hit 3 homers in Game 6 which clinched the World Series. How does hitting two homers in Game 3 easily surpass that? I guess if one is high on crack it might make sense.
@1948_Swell_Robinson said:
Move over Reggie(again). Ohtani game easily surpasses Reggie's three home run game especially considering how tight the game was all night and tips the balance of the WS.
The Dodgers were a 2-1 favorite and will most likely win this series in 5 games. There was never a moment last night once the game entered extra innings where I felt the Dodgers would lose, which is why I bet them during live betting after 10 innings.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt the series goes more than 5 games and 6 at the most. The Dodgers have a much better team.
Reggie hit 3 homers in Game 6 which clinched the World Series. How does hitting two homers in Game 3 easily surpass that? I guess if one is high on crack it might make sense.
Here's lookin' at you Yankmees70!
You might want to re-read @1948_Swell_Robinson's post to help improve your rational thinking ability.
I read it 3 times. Once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 easily surpass hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Please explain how its easily more important and significant. Let's see you use your rational thinking ability with specific examples/points.
@mintonlypls said:
Talk about respect when a player walks five (5) times in a game…and every time at- bat following his 2nd homer of the game…probably a World Series record. I will say Ohtani is easily the best player since Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ted Williams and Stan Musial in the post war era!
Will be interesting to see as time goes on, and Ohtani continues his surge stats wise,if it translates to increased card collecting acquisition among collectors. Or will collectors still cater to their vintage instincts for the "old timers".
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
I'm surprised that there hasn't been one Cardinals fan to argue there is yet another player that should be in this conversation for the greatest World Series game ever.
Facing elimination, in the 9th inning of Game 6 in 1985, with 2 strikes on him, instead of taking a called third strike, Jorge Orta put the ball in play and promptly scored 13 runs, winning 2 games, and therefore the World Series, all by himself.
Last night. Ohtani allowed 4 runs in 6 innings, took the loss and was 0 for 3 at plate with 2 strikeouts.
If you folks are going to anoint some of his post season games "The Best Ever" then the opposite needs to be discussed. In this case that means also talking about last night as one of the worst overall post season single game performances in history
This post brought to you merely in the interest of; equal-time and fairness, order and chaos, yin and yang.
It does makes sense, as the reasons Ohtani's performances might be best single post season games ever are the same reason he can have some of the worst single post season games ever.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
Please re-read the other clear thinking members posts 3 times (we all realize you're slow to comprehend English) why Ohtani's recent feats over shadow Jackson's 3 HR WS game. I give up on trying to convince you that your twisted thought process is incurable Forrest.
@1982FBWaxMemories said:
Last night. Ohtani allowed 4 runs in 6 innings, took the loss and was 0 for 3 at plate with 2 strikeouts.
If you folks are going to anoint some of his post season games "The Best Ever" then the opposite needs to be discussed. In this case that means also talking about last night as one of the worst overall post season single game performances in history
This post brought to you merely in the interest of; equal-time and fairness, order and chaos, yin and yang.
It does makes sense, as the reasons Ohtani's performances might be best single post season games ever are the same reason he can have some of the worst single post season games ever.
I understand the sentiment, but there are lot of post season pitching performances(pre universal DH) where the pitcher got torched and also went 0 for 2 or 0 for 3(if they stayed in the game that long).
6IP and 4ER isn't a good game but isn't a catastrophe type start by any means.
Thank goodness Kershaw got the third out. All of the greatness police would have torched him if he gave up the winning hit instead of a weak grounder. 😅
Please re-read the other clear thinking members posts 3 times (we all realize you're slow to comprehend English) why Ohtani's recent feats over shadow Jackson's 3 HR WS game. I give up on trying to convince you that your twisted thought process is incurable Forrest.
Still waiting dude. Either come up with specific examples or fold your hand. Insulting me without giving specific examples is the same as folding your hand.
So once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 EASILY SURPASS hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Also please explain how its easily more important and significant.
Please re-read the other clear thinking members posts 3 times (we all realize you're slow to comprehend English) why Ohtani's recent feats over shadow Jackson's 3 HR WS game. I give up on trying to convince you that your twisted thought process is incurable Forrest.
Still waiting dude. Either come up with specific examples or fold your hand. Insulting me without giving specific examples is the same as folding your hand.
So once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 EASILY SURPASS hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Also please explain how its easily more important and significant.
I didn't mean to insult you Forrest. I just asked you to re-read the collective member comments where the majority of them side with my position instead of yours. Just be patient. I will get back to you soon. Please hold your breath until that time .
Please re-read the other clear thinking members posts 3 times (we all realize you're slow to comprehend English) why Ohtani's recent feats over shadow Jackson's 3 HR WS game. I give up on trying to convince you that your twisted thought process is incurable Forrest.
Still waiting dude. Either come up with specific examples or fold your hand. Insulting me without giving specific examples is the same as folding your hand.
So once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 EASILY SURPASS hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Also please explain how its easily more important and significant.
I didn't mean to insult you Forrest. I just asked you to re-read the collective member comments where the majority of them side with my position instead of yours. Just be patient. I will get back to you soon. Please hold your breath until that time .
Still waiting.
Once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 EASILY SURPASS hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Also please explain how its easily more important and significant.
@1982FBWaxMemories said:
Last night. Ohtani allowed 4 runs in 6 innings, took the loss and was 0 for 3 at plate with 2 strikeouts.
If you folks are going to anoint some of his post season games "The Best Ever" then the opposite needs to be discussed. In this case that means also talking about last night as one of the worst overall post season single game performances in history
This post brought to you merely in the interest of; equal-time and fairness, order and chaos, yin and yang.
It does makes sense, as the reasons Ohtani's performances might be best single post season games ever are the same reason he can have some of the worst single post season games ever.
I understand the sentiment, but there are lot of post season pitching performances(pre universal DH) where the pitcher got torched and also went 0 for 2 or 0 for 3(if they stayed in the game that long).
6IP and 4ER isn't a good game but isn't a catastrophe type start by any means.
If that's the case than Ohtanis game 2 is merely on par with Wise's. Which is outstanding btw
Do u agree? please do not possible trading card holdings factor in.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972) Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
There's no bout. The guy insulted me and I asked him to back up his comments with specific examples which of course he can't. Instead like all internet tough guys, he will resort to name calling because he can't argue his position.
Its all about how much weight you put into the performance being in the game that decided the final game of the World Series. Its subjective. Clearly some posters here put a lot of stock into that and they are entitled to that opinion.
Shohei's recent game was more than 2 HRs. It was also 2 2Bs. So that alone is more total bases than Reggie. I also put a lot of stock in the 5 walks and the idea that in 9 plate appearances, he reached base 9 times. That feat is tough to duplicate. But you know they did not win the World Series that day so...factor that into your math but there is no absolute way to say x was superior to y. Hence, fun discussions.
Bob Horner hit 4 HRs in a game that was not a playoff game but hey 4. Higher than 3. So he is the best. Yay Bob! He even wrote the day on my baseball. 7/6/86.
5 walks. Earned because the Blue Jays manager was pooping his pants over whether or not to pitch to him on that night only. Not an achievement. Just a lot of respect for when somebody seems to be unstoppable for that night only.
Whatever was happening with his gastrointestinal situation and his garments, Shohei had 4 ABs and 100% of them were XBHs. So I dont know if it was a bad call to walk him when with all 5 of those walks he did not advance as far on the basepaths as the first 4 times up. That is kind of a win. Maybe if he pitches to him the game does not go 18 innings.
@UlyssesExtravaganza said:
Whatever was happening with his gastrointestinal situation and his garments, Shohei had 4 ABs and 100% of them were XBHs. So I dont know if it was a bad call to walk him when with all 5 of those walks he did not advance as far on the basepaths as the first 4 times up. That is kind of a win. Maybe if he pitches to him the game does not go 18 innings.
The Jays were also being served platters of fruit in their dugout. Maybe a connection.
And I wholeheartedly agree that if they had thrown him just one more hittable pitch, the game would have concluded long before midnight.
Baseball had seen good players, great playrs, even legendary players...but that dude is a total freak!! I would love so so so much to see a baseball themed Space Jam starring Shohei Ohtani and the Looney Tunes gang, just like how back in the day I would LOVED to have seen a Space Jam baseball version starring the Player of the 90s! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9z2o_qcX0o
@Yankees70 said:
The Dodgers were a 2-1 favorite and will most likely win this series in 5 games. There was never a moment last night once the game entered extra innings where I felt the Dodgers would lose, which is why I bet them during live betting after 10 innings.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt the series goes more than 5 games and 6 at the most. The Dodgers have a much better team.
@Yankees70 said:
The Dodgers were a 2-1 favorite and will most likely win this series in 5 games. There was never a moment last night once the game entered extra innings where I felt the Dodgers would lose, which is why I bet them during live betting after 10 innings.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt the series goes more than 5 games and 6 at the most. The Dodgers have a much better team.
😴
Yes I have been wrong with some of my sports predictions. If not I would have retired years ago and become a professional gambler. I am up $200 in this series as the only bet I made was Game 3 . So is the face palm just for me or also the other posters who have no idea what your talking about?
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But is George Springer the straw that stirs the drink??? I don't think he is. There is only 1 Reggie. Although, George is from New Britain CT. He grew up about 2 miles from me (35 years apart though) I know the street he lived on because he lived a few houses down from my cousin.
No. But he may have been the stick that banged the lid.
Looks like Reggie's 3rd homer made the game 8-3 so was fairly marginal in impact. The second homer added valuable insurance runs. The problem with the impact argument is that multiple home runs then mean a lot less and just a single walkoff hit, or a game 7 pitching shutout like Koufax or Morris would easily be the top of the list. So it really is more of a box score argument to begin with and so I'd give my vote to Ohtani.
Also, as for Rick Wise, he may have been a pretty good hitter for a pitcher but I think it's quite reasonable to say his 2 home runs were a fluke and a boatload of luck. And of course any player who hits 3 (or more) in a game has to also have a boatload of luck on their side, but Ohtani, like Reggie, has the skills to make such a game that much less of a fluke.
Mr. October is currently Yamamoto San.
Domo Arigato Mr. Yamamoto and Mr. Ohtani and Mr. Sasaki. Also Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto. Oh wait, that's the other thread.
@Yankees70 time to dig in for a battle.
Yankmees70 isn't going to change his biased position no matter what Ohtani does. 'They will never forget you til somebody new comes along'.....Reggie Who?
Ohtani
4 AB 2 HRs 3 Runs 4 Hits 3 RBIs 5 BB 0 Ks .283AVG 1.235 OPS
Move over Reggie(again). Ohtani game easily surpasses Reggie's three home run game especially considering how tight the game was all night and tips the balance of the WS.
Insane performance, suspect he would have hit 3 but they had no interest in pitching to him anymore.
Jays likely win the game if they walk him each at bat. Imagine that, would have been 9 walks.
Talk about respect when a player walks five (5) times in a game…and every time at- bat following his 2nd homer of the game…probably a World Series record. I will say Ohtani is easily the best player since Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ted Williams and Stan Musial in the post war era!
Remember when he was WS MVP in 2025?
And more remarkable...assuming he starts tonight, he'll add a pitching line on the same day (the game ended this morning around 3:00am)
Still going with Reggie. Ohtani is now a machine with built-in expectations. It can’t be avoided. His batflips have their own personalities. The Reggie game was unexpected and not duplicated or bettered until now. It fits snugly into the narrative of World Series Greatest Moments. That will never change.
If we are simply talking about World Series games and domination, how soon we forget! Albert Pujols' Game 3 of the 2011 WS in Texas was legendary!
Albert Pujols had 14 total bases with 3 HR and 2 singles. Now, we know Albert is a pitcher because he pitched in 2022 with the Cardinals.... It didn't go well! However, offensively, Game 3 in 2011 was the greatest individual offensive performance in World Series history and nobody even brings it up. I think Reggie gets thought about first because he was a Yankee and he was the first since Babe and did it on national TV. Pujols' game was better.
Both Reggie and Ohtani last night had 12 total bases BTW.
Yes, Ohtani may be the greatest of all time for a moderate length of time. What he is doing is unheard of and is mind blowing. I still want to see how his career finishes before I give him the GOAT crown. Just 5 years ago everybody was saying Mike Trout was in the conversation. He won't even get to 600 HR's and 500 isn't exactly automatic.
Shane
Reggie.....gone but not forgotten.
https://www.amazon.com/REGGIE-Bar-Chocolate-Endorsed-Baseball/dp/B0F4NW93T7?th=1
How drippy is the irony of watching Springer exit last nights game with what may be a prolonged injury?
Sounds like the Jays intend to walk Ohtani the rest of the series. Is there any precedent for that?
Babe Ruth wasn’t even walked intentionally multiple times in a game. Ohtani set a record last night by walking five (5) times…previous record four (4)…Ortiz in 2013.
But none of those guys could pitch. 😁 I think he has one comp for now. But even with Ruth, he was never really a full-time batter and pitcher in the same season. So in that way Ohtani is alone in being a certain type of player even though its been challenging to be both types of players often. Doing it at all is impressive though.
Gets tough to compare Ohtani to Ruth as a pitcher too in a sense because when Ruth was a full-time pitcher he was racking up 320 330 innings a year. Which was more the norm then and today the norm is more 150 to 180 IP.
Think Babe stopped being a full-time pitcher at about age 24. Dont get me wrong. Not taking anything away from Babe. I'd still say #1 as of today and he can still wear the crown. But Ohtani is about 30. Long way to go so he has the potential to wear it if he continues to rack up nice innings and great ABs.
I do think noone has ever reached the altitude of where Ohtani is at now with the combination of success with pitching and hitting. Does not mean he will be the greatest of all-time. But I think you can say noone was greater at one point in time. Similar to how you can make the case that there were better pitchers than Koufax but maybe noone ever was as good or better than him at his peak.
In the 2002 World Series, Angels pitchers walked Barry Bonds 13 times in 7 games; that's the most walks ever for one player in a single World Series. I don't know how many of those walks were officially classified as intentional. Bonds hit .471 in that World Series, going 8 for 17 with four homeruns, two doubles and six RBIs.
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Asinine comments. Once again I'm not a Reggie fan. I disliked him since his insane comments about Munson. Still what he did in Game 6 of a World Series game easily topps the significance and importance of what Ohtani did in a NON World Series game in a 4 game blowout.
I already said that if Ohtani repeats his NLCS performance in the World Series I would change my mind. My opinion is based on the data and claiming I'm biased makes zero sense.
My comments are based on a one game performance - not how many walks or what a player hit in a series. Its based on what Reggie did in Game 6 of the 78 World Series and nothing more. I'm not saying Reggie is better which of course he's not.
The Dodgers were a 2-1 favorite and will most likely win this series in 5 games. There was never a moment last night once the game entered extra innings where I felt the Dodgers would lose, which is why I bet them during live betting after 10 innings.
I could be wrong but I seriously doubt the series goes more than 5 games and 6 at the most. The Dodgers have a much better team.
Reggie hit 3 homers in Game 6 which clinched the World Series. How does hitting two homers in Game 3 easily surpass that? I guess if one is high on crack it might make sense.
Here's lookin' at you Yankmees70!
You might want to re-read @1948_Swell_Robinson's post to help improve your rational thinking ability.
I read it 3 times. Once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 easily surpass hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Please explain how its easily more important and significant. Let's see you use your rational thinking ability with specific examples/points.
Still waiting jraytay.
Tempest in a teapot. 😏
Maybe not in World Series, but in 1969 ALCS, Baltimore manager Earl Weaver didn't pitch to Killebrew. Harmon walked 6 times in 14 plate appearances.
The next year in the playoffs, Weaver pitched to Killebrew and his OPS was 1.203! Harmon slugged .818.
Baltimore won both years. 😢
Will be interesting to see as time goes on, and Ohtani continues his surge stats wise,if it translates to increased card collecting acquisition among collectors. Or will collectors still cater to their vintage instincts for the "old timers".
I'm surprised that there hasn't been one Cardinals fan to argue there is yet another player that should be in this conversation for the greatest World Series game ever.
Facing elimination, in the 9th inning of Game 6 in 1985, with 2 strikes on him, instead of taking a called third strike, Jorge Orta put the ball in play and promptly scored 13 runs, winning 2 games, and therefore the World Series, all by himself.
At least that's how they've told it for 40 years.
Last night. Ohtani allowed 4 runs in 6 innings, took the loss and was 0 for 3 at plate with 2 strikeouts.
If you folks are going to anoint some of his post season games "The Best Ever" then the opposite needs to be discussed. In this case that means also talking about last night as one of the worst overall post season single game performances in history
This post brought to you merely in the interest of; equal-time and fairness, order and chaos, yin and yang.
It does makes sense, as the reasons Ohtani's performances might be best single post season games ever are the same reason he can have some of the worst single post season games ever.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
Please re-read the other clear thinking members posts 3 times (we all realize you're slow to comprehend English) why Ohtani's recent feats over shadow Jackson's 3 HR WS game. I give up on trying to convince you that your twisted thought process is incurable Forrest.
I understand the sentiment, but there are lot of post season pitching performances(pre universal DH) where the pitcher got torched and also went 0 for 2 or 0 for 3(if they stayed in the game that long).
6IP and 4ER isn't a good game but isn't a catastrophe type start by any means.
Thank goodness Kershaw got the third out. All of the greatness police would have torched him if he gave up the winning hit instead of a weak grounder. 😅
Still waiting dude. Either come up with specific examples or fold your hand. Insulting me without giving specific examples is the same as folding your hand.
So once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 EASILY SURPASS hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Also please explain how its easily more important and significant.
I didn't mean to insult you Forrest. I just asked you to re-read the collective member comments where the majority of them side with my position instead of yours. Just be patient. I will get back to you soon. Please hold your breath until that time
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Still waiting.
Once again how does hitting 2 homers in game 3 EASILY SURPASS hitting 3 homers in game 6 which won the World Series for the Yankees? Also please explain how its easily more important and significant.
If that's the case than Ohtanis game 2 is merely on par with Wise's. Which is outstanding btw
Do u agree? please do not possible trading card holdings factor in.
It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me 2025
I don't know whether to watch Game 5 or the Yankees70 vs jraytay bout. Good thing I have 4 big screens.
There's no bout. The guy insulted me and I asked him to back up his comments with specific examples which of course he can't. Instead like all internet tough guys, he will resort to name calling because he can't argue his position.
Its all about how much weight you put into the performance being in the game that decided the final game of the World Series. Its subjective. Clearly some posters here put a lot of stock into that and they are entitled to that opinion.
Shohei's recent game was more than 2 HRs. It was also 2 2Bs. So that alone is more total bases than Reggie. I also put a lot of stock in the 5 walks and the idea that in 9 plate appearances, he reached base 9 times. That feat is tough to duplicate. But you know they did not win the World Series that day so...factor that into your math but there is no absolute way to say x was superior to y. Hence, fun discussions.
Bob Horner hit 4 HRs in a game that was not a playoff game but hey 4. Higher than 3. So he is the best. Yay Bob! He even wrote the day on my baseball. 7/6/86.
5 walks. Earned because the Blue Jays manager was pooping his pants over whether or not to pitch to him on that night only. Not an achievement. Just a lot of respect for when somebody seems to be unstoppable for that night only.
Whatever was happening with his gastrointestinal situation and his garments, Shohei had 4 ABs and 100% of them were XBHs. So I dont know if it was a bad call to walk him when with all 5 of those walks he did not advance as far on the basepaths as the first 4 times up. That is kind of a win. Maybe if he pitches to him the game does not go 18 innings.
The Jays were also being served platters of fruit in their dugout. Maybe a connection.
And I wholeheartedly agree that if they had thrown him just one more hittable pitch, the game would have concluded long before midnight.
Baseball had seen good players, great playrs, even legendary players...but that dude is a total freak!! I would love so so so much to see a baseball themed Space Jam starring Shohei Ohtani and the Looney Tunes gang, just like how back in the day I would LOVED to have seen a Space Jam baseball version starring the Player of the 90s!
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Yes I have been wrong with some of my sports predictions. If not I would have retired years ago and become a professional gambler. I am up $200 in this series as the only bet I made was Game 3 . So is the face palm just for me or also the other posters who have no idea what your talking about?
Hardly care about your betting habits. Just enjoying the moment watching them fail.
Being up $200 is only a failure in the bizarro world. I hate the Dodgers and I hope they lose.
Once again is the face palm just for me or does it include the other posters who don't know what your talking about?