also, I heard that KC played an entire game last week with zero penalties called against them on both offense and defense. pretty rare, no? almost like the league or someone else did not want them starting the year at 2-4.
let's think about this logically. what happens if the Kansas City Chiefs do not make the playoffs? you could confront the most ignorant sports fan alive and they'd be able to tell you that it wouldn't be a good thing for the NFL. the amount of lost revenue from the absence of the league's most marketable team would be staggering. the millions of Swifties who would normally be tuning in would then turn to TikTok for those 3 hours per game. next thing you know, mysterious things start happening to the sub-.500 Chiefs and they improbably go entire games without being penalized. something that has happened 40 times since 2000.
as i said in the gambling thread, i trust no one. not the players, the refs, the coaches, or the leagues themselves. i may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but my momma didn't raise no stoopnagle.
you make good points. no one likes a good conspiracy theory more than me!
I think I will start paying more attention to this fishy stuff...
@MCMLVTopps said:
Rozier makes $25m per season (6months), which is $305k per game (82 games).
It is stunning to think he would jeopardize such an income for a potential long term jail cell.
You can't fix stupid!!
I know nothing about Rozier's personal life and no desire to. However this I do know. There are many stories out there about sports stars, entertainment stars, businessmen, and others who had more money than Rozier, and lost a lot of it, if not all of it from gambling.
Of course other factors can come into play such as divorce settlements, spending on other women, lavish lifestyle with cars, boats, jewelry, etc, including failed business ventures and money basically stolen from them by corrupt business managers.
I never read much about this, but didn't Tom Brady fall for some cryptocurrency scam where he lost 30 million dollars? That alone would ruin most, but of course Brady makes so much money, he could brush aside that huge loss. Similar to Michael Jordan who Franzese mentioned in the video. Everybody knows that Jordan, just on the golf course alone, has lost countless millions of dollars over the years, but he can brush it off because he makes so much more.
The big problem with these athletes is they think, especially in their prime, that the gravy train is going to last "forever." But then one day they are deep in debt because of gambling or other reasons, and they eventually get cut and there is no more cash flow for them to pay what they owe. And of course depending on their addiction to the adrenaline rush thrill of gambling and living on the edge, money problems could result at any point in their playing career, and then as Franzese points out, they get involved with the Mafia in various ways.
One story I'm very familiar with, and that is Leonard Tose, former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. Long story short, Tose had it all, NFL owner of a great franchise, owner of a very successful trucking company, pretty wife, etc. But for whatever reason it wasn't enough. He got addicted to playing blackjack at the Atlantic City gaming tables, and lost it all. Whether he wound up borrowing money from the Mafia or not, I do not know. However considering how pervasive the Mafia is in the Philadelphia area, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Hope you stick around, the Chiefs are heating up and looking good brother
Probably just defend KC a little and be on my way. Pretty much why I left although then it was mostly Steve and his stupid chiefs collapse thread. Just got tired of it all.
Good to see you’re still around!
Darin, nice to see ya back.
But come on now, blaming me for you staying away? Please stop acting silly. That Chiefs thread was up for many months and you didn't stay away then. You stayed away because your Chiefs got throttled in the Super Bowl, you know it, and we all know it.
You're back now because your Chiefs are doing well, and that's fine. By the way, you handed out plenty of smack as well last season, and that's fine to. So enjoy the ride, enjoy the forum as I think you do, and don't take it so dam personal.
I'll speak for myself, I am an equal opportunity smack giver outer. To me and many others, it's all part of the fun of being a good sports fan. 😎
@MCMLVTopps said:
Rozier makes $25m per season (6months), which is $305k per game (82 games).
It is stunning to think he would jeopardize such an income for a potential long term jail cell.
You can't fix stupid!!
I know nothing about Rozier's personal life and no desire to. However this I do know. There are many stories out there about sports stars, entertainment stars, businessmen, and others who had more money than Rozier, and lost a lot of it, if not all of it from gambling.
Of course other factors can come into play such as divorce settlements, spending on other women, lavish lifestyle with cars, boats, jewelry, etc, including failed business ventures and money basically stolen from them by corrupt business managers.
I never read much about this, but didn't Tom Brady fall for some cryptocurrency scam where he lost 30 million dollars? That alone would ruin most, but of course Brady makes so much money, he could brush aside that huge loss. Similar to Michael Jordan who Franzese mentioned in the video. Everybody knows that Jordan, just on the golf course alone, has lost countless millions of dollars over the years, but he can brush it off because he makes so much more.
The big problem with these athletes is they think, especially in their prime, that the gravy train is going to last "forever." But then one day they are deep in debt because of gambling or other reasons, and they eventually get cut and there is no more cash flow for them to pay what they owe. And of course depending on their addiction to the adrenaline rush thrill of gambling and living on the edge, money problems could result at any point in their playing career, and then as Franzese points out, they get involved with the Mafia in various ways.
One story I'm very familiar with, and that is Leonard Tose, former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. Long story short, Tose had it all, NFL owner of a great franchise, owner of a very successful trucking company, pretty wife, etc. But for whatever reason it wasn't enough. He got addicted to playing blackjack at the Atlantic City gaming tables, and lost it all. Whether he wound up borrowing money from the Mafia or not, I do not know. However considering how pervasive the Mafia is in the Philadelphia area, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Tom Brady and his wife endorsed FTX, which was the Sam Bankman-Fried company which was embezzling money. Brady and his wife were given around $50M in FTX stock to promote crypto to idiots. When the company was shut down they lost their money. Brady can bury himself for all I care. He's a dolt.
@MCMLVTopps said:
Rozier makes $25m per season (6months), which is $305k per game (82 games).
It is stunning to think he would jeopardize such an income for a potential long term jail cell.
You can't fix stupid!!
I know nothing about Rozier's personal life and no desire to. However this I do know. There are many stories out there about sports stars, entertainment stars, businessmen, and others who had more money than Rozier, and lost a lot of it, if not all of it from gambling.
Of course other factors can come into play such as divorce settlements, spending on other women, lavish lifestyle with cars, boats, jewelry, etc, including failed business ventures and money basically stolen from them by corrupt business managers.
I never read much about this, but didn't Tom Brady fall for some cryptocurrency scam where he lost 30 million dollars? That alone would ruin most, but of course Brady makes so much money, he could brush aside that huge loss. Similar to Michael Jordan who Franzese mentioned in the video. Everybody knows that Jordan, just on the golf course alone, has lost countless millions of dollars over the years, but he can brush it off because he makes so much more.
The big problem with these athletes is they think, especially in their prime, that the gravy train is going to last "forever." But then one day they are deep in debt because of gambling or other reasons, and they eventually get cut and there is no more cash flow for them to pay what they owe. And of course depending on their addiction to the adrenaline rush thrill of gambling and living on the edge, money problems could result at any point in their playing career, and then as Franzese points out, they get involved with the Mafia in various ways.
One story I'm very familiar with, and that is Leonard Tose, former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. Long story short, Tose had it all, NFL owner of a great franchise, owner of a very successful trucking company, pretty wife, etc. But for whatever reason it wasn't enough. He got addicted to playing blackjack at the Atlantic City gaming tables, and lost it all. Whether he wound up borrowing money from the Mafia or not, I do not know. However considering how pervasive the Mafia is in the Philadelphia area, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Tom Brady and his wife endorsed FTX, which was the Sam Bankman-Fried company which was embezzling money. Brady and his wife were given around $50M in FTX stock to promote crypto to idiots. When the company was shut down they lost their money. Brady can bury himself for all I care. He's a dolt.
With a few exceptions, most top athletes are very poor business people. They have no business training at all, having spent most of their time in school practicing their sport, and not worrying too much about their academic grades.
True story - So I'm up at the Penn State main campus my junior year. Business major. And the first day of an accounting class, in walks the Penn State starting quarterback, I won't mention his name. But everybody knew him, I knew him before I went up to the main campus from watching some games on TV and seeing his pic in the media.
Anyway, I never missed a class, and he never attended another class, and I just figured he dropped out. So back then, the class grades for the term were posted by the professors on the classroom door, and I'm looking for my grade which was a B. which i wasn't too happy about. But I had some friends in the same class, and I'm looking for their grades, and I see that QB's name on there who received a C. What a friggin' joke, accounting the way it's taught in college is very difficult to learn without classroom instruction. I'm sure as I can be that the QB never actually took a test, but was just given an automatic C from the professor. I'd say very likely this happens often in many other universities.
I bring it up because without proper knowledge of how the "real world" works, these athletes are very susceptible to scams, etc, by business managers and others. And get themselves in bad habits such as compulsive gambling, and then involved with some nasty people who are more than happy to lend them money for favors.
I recall reading about Mantle getting taken in this way numerous times. Of course the Mick could always get out of any financial problems from doing autograph shows, etc, where he had a license to print money. Otherwise I'm sure he would have died dead broke.
@Darin said:
One question?
If the refs are trying to help KC, why did they get called for 13 penalties against the jags?
Answer that in some small way that fits your narrative and maybe you can be taken seriously as a legitimate badge wearing dues paying conspiracy theorist.
There was literally a study released a couple weeks ago showing that KC has benefited from slanted officiating:
There was also the game against Detroit a couple years ago where their RT was committing a penalty on literally every single snap. It was so bad and so obvious that the NFL actually had to address it with a memo.
More recently, also against Detroit a couple weeks ago, the replay booth signaled down for a penalty to be called on a Detroit touchdown. Detroit had pre-approved the play and the booth had it flagged, which is not something replay is allowed to do.
Undoubtedly, people complain too much about the officiating with regard to KC. However, it's also naive to suggest there's no fire to all the smoke.
It's hard to take it seriously if you have to pay $10 to read it. The "study" that is. I'm not saying the theory doesn't make sense but I also thought Santa was real for a minute there.
@craig44 said:
i heard on the radio this AM that during ESPN's reporting of this "situation" that they removed the ESPN BET advertisement that runs at the bottom of the screen.
i wonder why they did that???? Weird.
They have to legally remove it anytime illegal gambling or reckless gambling is being talked about. Theres significant consequences that occur if you overlap either of those with a gambling ad. ESPN Bet is just the Penn app anyways that they significantly overpaid to use use the ESPN name.
I've said it many times already, but I've always found it odd that people complain about the "favoritism for the Chiefs". If it's proven that the refs are in the Chiefs' pocket, and everyone knows the calls are going to go their way and they are going to win the game, every single gambler that I know would be ecstatic and looking at it as free money. A lot of effort usually goes into finding a "sure thing". This one is supposedly telegraphed to the world.
Hope you stick around, the Chiefs are heating up and looking good brother
Probably just defend KC a little and be on my way. Pretty much why I left although then it was mostly Steve and his stupid chiefs collapse thread. Just got tired of it all.
Good to see you’re still around!
Darin, nice to see ya back.
But come on now, blaming me for you staying away? Please stop acting silly. That Chiefs thread was up for many months and you didn't stay away then. You stayed away because your Chiefs got throttled in the Super Bowl, you know it, and we all know it.
You're back now because your Chiefs are doing well, and that's fine. By the way, you handed out plenty of smack as well last season, and that's fine to. So enjoy the ride, enjoy the forum as I think you do, and don't take it so dam personal.
I'll speak for myself, I am an equal opportunity smack giver outer. To me and many others, it's all part of the fun of being a good sports fan. 😎
Honestly, the main reason I posted was to prove Dallas wrong about one thing. I don’t have an opinion about Beltré using or not using steroids, but Clemente definitely improved as a hitter by more than 20% in his 30’s compared to his 20’s. 🥳🥳 Dallas proven wrong!!!!!!
As far as the Chiefs, no I didn’t come back here because they’re doing well. I commented on this thread because of the one sidedness of it all. Were there any comments here when KC was flagged 13 times against the Jags? Of course not why would I ask such a silly question. And then so they don’t get flagged in a game. I know you think Reid is fat and old and losing it, but wouldn’t it be mildly plausible that the issue of 13 flags was addressed in practice. So sure maybe a call or two could have been missed, but the improvement has everything to do with Reid, his coaching staff,and the players. And frankly it pisses me off when people immediately say KC is paying the refs etc.
So yes I left because of all the one side to the story bullshit, it just gets so tiresome, and I deliberately used the phrase “they’re not even trying to hide it anymore” because that’s a favorite of the refs in their pockets idiots.
BTW nobody is going to explain to me why KC has 47 flags this year compared to 41 for their opponents, correct?😂
That’s what I thought.
glad you're back bro. i was about to drive up to Kansas, roll down my window and start yelling your name again
Galaxy- thanks man. You and perkdog are the best.
I’m actually still mourning the end of the Royals season. Not that I thought they should have made the playoffs, I just miss seeing my team on the field after watching them for six months. Sudden change like that is hard for me to adjust to for some reason.
My mom even asked me one day late in the season, “what happened to Freddy?” She was talking about Freddy Fermin, Salvy’s backup at catcher. I explained he got traded to the Padres and she was disappointed because she admired him because he’s about half the size of Salvy but is excellent defensively and decent with the bat. Just a scrappy, tough ball player. I enjoyed seeing my 86 year old mom getting so involved in the games and the team like a true fan. Basically during the season she watches the royals and the game show network and nothing else! 😂
Placed a few bets for KC to win Super Bowl at +850 and +950, a friend got in at +1500 I think it was when they were 0-2.
Hope you’re in good health and doing well, I’m planning on retiring at least in two years when I’m 63 and possibly a bit sooner.
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you make good points. no one likes a good conspiracy theory more than me!
I think I will start paying more attention to this fishy stuff...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I know nothing about Rozier's personal life and no desire to. However this I do know. There are many stories out there about sports stars, entertainment stars, businessmen, and others who had more money than Rozier, and lost a lot of it, if not all of it from gambling.
Of course other factors can come into play such as divorce settlements, spending on other women, lavish lifestyle with cars, boats, jewelry, etc, including failed business ventures and money basically stolen from them by corrupt business managers.
I never read much about this, but didn't Tom Brady fall for some cryptocurrency scam where he lost 30 million dollars? That alone would ruin most, but of course Brady makes so much money, he could brush aside that huge loss. Similar to Michael Jordan who Franzese mentioned in the video. Everybody knows that Jordan, just on the golf course alone, has lost countless millions of dollars over the years, but he can brush it off because he makes so much more.
The big problem with these athletes is they think, especially in their prime, that the gravy train is going to last "forever." But then one day they are deep in debt because of gambling or other reasons, and they eventually get cut and there is no more cash flow for them to pay what they owe. And of course depending on their addiction to the adrenaline rush thrill of gambling and living on the edge, money problems could result at any point in their playing career, and then as Franzese points out, they get involved with the Mafia in various ways.
One story I'm very familiar with, and that is Leonard Tose, former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles. Long story short, Tose had it all, NFL owner of a great franchise, owner of a very successful trucking company, pretty wife, etc. But for whatever reason it wasn't enough. He got addicted to playing blackjack at the Atlantic City gaming tables, and lost it all. Whether he wound up borrowing money from the Mafia or not, I do not know. However considering how pervasive the Mafia is in the Philadelphia area, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Darin, nice to see ya back.
But come on now, blaming me for you staying away? Please stop acting silly. That Chiefs thread was up for many months and you didn't stay away then. You stayed away because your Chiefs got throttled in the Super Bowl, you know it, and we all know it.
You're back now because your Chiefs are doing well, and that's fine. By the way, you handed out plenty of smack as well last season, and that's fine to. So enjoy the ride, enjoy the forum as I think you do, and don't take it so dam personal.
I'll speak for myself, I am an equal opportunity smack giver outer. To me and many others, it's all part of the fun of being a good sports fan. 😎
It's not necessarily the gambling that becomes the addiction. It's the WINNING.
The "problem" is the old saying:
The next best thing to gambling and winning, is gambling and losing.
😉
Tom Brady and his wife endorsed FTX, which was the Sam Bankman-Fried company which was embezzling money. Brady and his wife were given around $50M in FTX stock to promote crypto to idiots. When the company was shut down they lost their money. Brady can bury himself for all I care. He's a dolt.
But.....but.....the jar of sand!!!!
With a few exceptions, most top athletes are very poor business people. They have no business training at all, having spent most of their time in school practicing their sport, and not worrying too much about their academic grades.
True story - So I'm up at the Penn State main campus my junior year. Business major. And the first day of an accounting class, in walks the Penn State starting quarterback, I won't mention his name. But everybody knew him, I knew him before I went up to the main campus from watching some games on TV and seeing his pic in the media.
Anyway, I never missed a class, and he never attended another class, and I just figured he dropped out. So back then, the class grades for the term were posted by the professors on the classroom door, and I'm looking for my grade which was a B. which i wasn't too happy about. But I had some friends in the same class, and I'm looking for their grades, and I see that QB's name on there who received a C. What a friggin' joke, accounting the way it's taught in college is very difficult to learn without classroom instruction. I'm sure as I can be that the QB never actually took a test, but was just given an automatic C from the professor. I'd say very likely this happens often in many other universities.
I bring it up because without proper knowledge of how the "real world" works, these athletes are very susceptible to scams, etc, by business managers and others. And get themselves in bad habits such as compulsive gambling, and then involved with some nasty people who are more than happy to lend them money for favors.
I recall reading about Mantle getting taken in this way numerous times. Of course the Mick could always get out of any financial problems from doing autograph shows, etc, where he had a license to print money. Otherwise I'm sure he would have died dead broke.
There was literally a study released a couple weeks ago showing that KC has benefited from slanted officiating:
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/study-suggests-kansas-city-chiefs-163849783.html
There was also the game against Detroit a couple years ago where their RT was committing a penalty on literally every single snap. It was so bad and so obvious that the NFL actually had to address it with a memo.
More recently, also against Detroit a couple weeks ago, the replay booth signaled down for a penalty to be called on a Detroit touchdown. Detroit had pre-approved the play and the booth had it flagged, which is not something replay is allowed to do.
Undoubtedly, people complain too much about the officiating with regard to KC. However, it's also naive to suggest there's no fire to all the smoke.
It's hard to take it seriously if you have to pay $10 to read it. The "study" that is. I'm not saying the theory doesn't make sense but I also thought Santa was real for a minute there.
They have to legally remove it anytime illegal gambling or reckless gambling is being talked about. Theres significant consequences that occur if you overlap either of those with a gambling ad. ESPN Bet is just the Penn app anyways that they significantly overpaid to use use the ESPN name.
Fire AJ Preller
I've said it many times already, but I've always found it odd that people complain about the "favoritism for the Chiefs". If it's proven that the refs are in the Chiefs' pocket, and everyone knows the calls are going to go their way and they are going to win the game, every single gambler that I know would be ecstatic and looking at it as free money. A lot of effort usually goes into finding a "sure thing". This one is supposedly telegraphed to the world.
Honestly, the main reason I posted was to prove Dallas wrong about one thing. I don’t have an opinion about Beltré using or not using steroids, but Clemente definitely improved as a hitter by more than 20% in his 30’s compared to his 20’s. 🥳🥳 Dallas proven wrong!!!!!!
As far as the Chiefs, no I didn’t come back here because they’re doing well. I commented on this thread because of the one sidedness of it all. Were there any comments here when KC was flagged 13 times against the Jags? Of course not why would I ask such a silly question. And then so they don’t get flagged in a game. I know you think Reid is fat and old and losing it, but wouldn’t it be mildly plausible that the issue of 13 flags was addressed in practice. So sure maybe a call or two could have been missed, but the improvement has everything to do with Reid, his coaching staff,and the players. And frankly it pisses me off when people immediately say KC is paying the refs etc.
So yes I left because of all the one side to the story bullshit, it just gets so tiresome, and I deliberately used the phrase “they’re not even trying to hide it anymore” because that’s a favorite of the refs in their pockets idiots.
BTW nobody is going to explain to me why KC has 47 flags this year compared to 41 for their opponents, correct?😂
That’s what I thought.
@galaxy27 want to change your rankings now that Darin has defeated Dallas?
I’m actually a bit disappointed in Dallas, I thought he would be more aware of the finer points in the career of one Roberto Clemente. 😢
Irrefutable proof vs. Contradicting example is one of my favorites. Excited to see the path chosen but please let it be trenches.
i'd rather not get in between darin and dallas when they are sharing an intimate moment together
@Darin
glad you're back bro. i was about to drive up to Kansas, roll down my window and start yelling your name again
Galaxy- thanks man. You and perkdog are the best.
I’m actually still mourning the end of the Royals season. Not that I thought they should have made the playoffs, I just miss seeing my team on the field after watching them for six months. Sudden change like that is hard for me to adjust to for some reason.
My mom even asked me one day late in the season, “what happened to Freddy?” She was talking about Freddy Fermin, Salvy’s backup at catcher. I explained he got traded to the Padres and she was disappointed because she admired him because he’s about half the size of Salvy but is excellent defensively and decent with the bat. Just a scrappy, tough ball player. I enjoyed seeing my 86 year old mom getting so involved in the games and the team like a true fan. Basically during the season she watches the royals and the game show network and nothing else! 😂
Placed a few bets for KC to win Super Bowl at +850 and +950, a friend got in at +1500 I think it was when they were 0-2.
Hope you’re in good health and doing well, I’m planning on retiring at least in two years when I’m 63 and possibly a bit sooner.