1978 Ike – Possible Cladding/Planchet Error + Rotated Die error
jasonlwrth
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I have a 1978 Ike dollar with what appears to have a couple of errors and wanted some opinions on what I actually have:
There’s about a ~90° die rotation from the obverse.
Also, the edge shows what looks like a planchet/cladding separation, and the coin appears thicker than a standard Ike.
I haven't had it weighed yet, but it's definitely heavier then a normal Ike.
The last image shows a side-by-side of a standard Ike.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Right here is a good start. Clear focused pictures will help the experts.
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Right here.
Images are on the way - thanks.
Magician’s coin…called a shell coin. Get a glass and shake it around and the two halves should separate. My guess is there’s another coin inside and that’s what is causing it to look thicker. Keep us updated!
Yep, a magicians coin. Most of these have 2 obverses (heads) showing. Might have been intended to be a thin hiding place. I would try to take the top piece, wear the seam/split is, and check it out.
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Thanks for the input. If it is a magicians coin, that would be neat trick getting the thing separated, because I can't seem to do it. Guess you have to be a magician, which I am not.
If magicians coin, how did they get the other side smaller in diameter? From the pics one side looks smaller, but without seeing in hand, I could be wrong.
Turns out that was the case. I clinked it on a glass, and it came apart. I had no idea these things existed. There is a story behind this thing and I thank you all for not letting me make a total fool out of myself (which I already have) Thanks again.
A view from the side - but not straight on - would help to see which half fits into the other.
In any case, my assumption is that the edge of the smaller piece was machined off and reeding was added to make it look passable from a distance since part of it rises above the other edge.
It is unusual for magician coins to have an edge like that. I'd love to see what's inside. I suppose it's a trick where it turns from a "normal" dollar coin into a two-headed or two-tailed one.
Anyway, here's the shell of the thing. A real Ike dollar was inside of it.
It is an expanded shell! They are over $50….and a magic shop could show you how to use it! Heck, I wouldn’t mind having one myself! Nice find. Karl
Here…see it in action! https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/coin-gimmicks/expanded-shell-eisenhower-dollar/
Worth a lot more than a real coin!
On the bright side, I guess I could try to do some coin tricks with it down at the bar
I do have some other coins (real ones this time) that I may post that could be interesting. A 1917 & 1918 Walking Liberty half dollar and others. Will start a new thread for those.