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Ohtani. Paid for.

bgrbgr Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

Well. According to the Dodgers, if you believe them, they have profited more than enough from merchandising, marketing, and ticket sales to offset Ohtani’s $700M contract in a single season.

How cheap his contract looks to history may end up being what he has most in common with Ruth.

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  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I read that article, too.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,944 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 20, 2025 8:17AM

    i just don't see how a small market team like Milwaukee will ever be able to dispatch of the Dodgers come playoffs time

    the Brewers' total payroll allocations are a third of what LA's is. hell, the Dodgers' astronomical figure is almost 50 mil more than the Yankees'

    how can you compete with that?

    congratulations on your championship, you had the best team.........that money can buy

    and thank you for making me even less of a fan than i already am

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would think the only way would be a hard cap on the top end and a minimum cap on the lower end.

    each team spends the same money every season.

    good luck passing that through collective bargaining!

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 20, 2025 10:06AM

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just don't see how a small market team like Milwaukee will ever be able to dispatch of the Dodgers come playoffs time

    the Brewers' total payroll allocations are a third of what LA's is. hell, the Dodgers' astronomical figure is almost 50 mil more than the Yankees'

    how can you compete with that?

    congratulations on your championship, you had the best team.........that money can buy

    and thank you for making me even less of a fan than i already am

    The Dodgers do what every fan base wishes their team would do. The Cubs basically print money(and also own the whole neighborhood) but they keep a higher percentage of their profits.

    Purportedly:

    The Dodgers spent 73% of their revenue. The Cubs spent 36% of theirs.

    The Dodgers 20204 revenue compared to their 2025 salary+tax was plus 203 Million.

    The Cubs were plus 371 million.

    Even the Brewers were plus 198 million and the Sh!t Sox plus 190 million.

    So what happened coming into 2025? The Cubs gave Bellinger away in a pure salary dump. They could have used him in the playoffs over some of their over matched hitters. They might have won that series. Their manager also thought they had Sandy Koufax and started Boyd on three days rest in game one(so dumb decision category). Had they spent that Bellinger money on another viable starting pitcher, then they may not have had to start Boyd in game one..

    The White Sox extend guys like Leury Garcia and end up cutting him before the contract ends.

    So club greed and bad decisions in player personnel are really what is holding people back from the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers hit home runs on their big free agent expenditures....Freeman, Ohtani, Yammamoto(before he even pitched in MLB), Tesocar. While other teams spend millions for locked in years on Kris Bryant, Javy Baez, Benintendi, Anthony Rendon, Strasburg, etc, etc, etc.

    Just think if during this run the Dodgers went after Strasburg, Kris Bryant, and Rendon instead. It would be a whole different conversation.

    Otherr teams choose to keep more of their money or spend it poorly.

    Red Sox gave Mookie Betts away. Do they look very dumb now for not trying him at 2B and SS???

    If you are a Cub fan, I have no idea why you hand money over to the Cubs. To each their own I guess.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 31,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The league overall, obviously makes more money when the bigger market teams win. Nothing new. It's always been that way, and it'll always be that way.

    Would the Brewers owners like to win? Of course they would. But in the overall scheme of things, they don't mind when a big market team wins, as they benefit as well in various was.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 31,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just don't see how a small market team like Milwaukee will ever be able to dispatch of the Dodgers come playoffs time

    the Brewers' total payroll allocations are a third of what LA's is. hell, the Dodgers' astronomical figure is almost 50 mil more than the Yankees'

    how can you compete with that?

    congratulations on your championship, you had the best team.........that money can buy

    and thank you for making me even less of a fan than i already am

    The Dodgers do what every fan base wishes their team would do. The Cubs basically print money(and also own the whole neighborhood) but they keep a higher percentage of their profits.

    Purportedly:

    The Dodgers spent 73% of their revenue. The Cubs spent 36% of theirs.

    The Dodgers 20204 revenue compared to their 2025 salary+tax was plus 203 Million.

    The Cubs were plus 371 million.

    Even the Brewers were plus 198 million and the Sh!t Sox plus 190 million.

    So what happened coming into 2025? The Cubs gave Bellinger away in a pure salary dump. They could have used him in the playoffs over some of their over matched hitters. They might have won that series. Their manager also thought they had Sandy Koufax and started Boyd on three days rest in game one(so dumb decision category). Had they spent that Bellinger money on another viable starting pitcher, then they may not have had to start Boyd in game one..

    The White Sox extend guys like Leury Garcia and end up cutting him before the contract ends.

    So club greed and bad decisions in player personnel are really what is holding people back from the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers hit home runs on their big free agent expenditures....Freeman, Ohtani, Yammamoto(before he even pitched in MLB), Tesocar. While other teams spend millions for locked in years on Kris Bryant, Javy Baez, Benintendi, Anthony Rendon, Strasburg, etc, etc, etc.

    Just think if during this run the Dodgers went after Strasburg, Kris Bryant, and Rendon instead. It would be a whole different conversation.

    Otherr teams choose to keep more of their money or spend it poorly.

    Red Sox gave Mookie Betts away. Do they look very dumb now for not trying him at 2B and SS???

    If you are a Cub fan, I have no idea why you hand money over to the Cubs. To each their own I guess.

    I forget the player's name, but in the early part of last century the Red Sox sold one of their star players to the Yankees. That transaction "cursed" the Red Sox for many decades.

    After that fiasco, I don't recall the Red Sox going out of business.

    This chit has been going on for a long time

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just don't see how a small market team like Milwaukee will ever be able to dispatch of the Dodgers come playoffs time

    the Brewers' total payroll allocations are a third of what LA's is. hell, the Dodgers' astronomical figure is almost 50 mil more than the Yankees'

    how can you compete with that?

    congratulations on your championship, you had the best team.........that money can buy

    and thank you for making me even less of a fan than i already am

    The Dodgers do what every fan base wishes their team would do. The Cubs basically print money(and also own the whole neighborhood) but they keep a higher percentage of their profits.

    Purportedly:

    The Dodgers spent 73% of their revenue. The Cubs spent 36% of theirs.

    The Dodgers 20204 revenue compared to their 2025 salary+tax was plus 203 Million.

    The Cubs were plus 371 million.

    Even the Brewers were plus 198 million and the Sh!t Sox plus 190 million.

    So what happened coming into 2025? The Cubs gave Bellinger away in a pure salary dump. They could have used him in the playoffs over some of their over matched hitters. They might have won that series. Their manager also thought they had Sandy Koufax and started Boyd on three days rest in game one(so dumb decision category). Had they spent that Bellinger money on another viable starting pitcher, then they may not have had to start Boyd in game one..

    The White Sox extend guys like Leury Garcia and end up cutting him before the contract ends.

    So club greed and bad decisions in player personnel are really what is holding people back from the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers hit home runs on their big free agent expenditures....Freeman, Ohtani, Yammamoto(before he even pitched in MLB), Tesocar. While other teams spend millions for locked in years on Kris Bryant, Javy Baez, Benintendi, Anthony Rendon, Strasburg, etc, etc, etc.

    Just think if during this run the Dodgers went after Strasburg, Kris Bryant, and Rendon instead. It would be a whole different conversation.

    Otherr teams choose to keep more of their money or spend it poorly.

    Red Sox gave Mookie Betts away. Do they look very dumb now for not trying him at 2B and SS???

    If you are a Cub fan, I have no idea why you hand money over to the Cubs. To each their own I guess.

    I forget the player's name, but in the early part of last century the Red Sox sold one of their star players to the Yankees. That transaction "cursed" the Red Sox for many decades.

    After that fiasco, I don't recall the Red Sox going out of business.

    This chit has been going on for a long time

    George something.

    Absolutely has been going on forever.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dodgers lost Corey Seager to free agency as well. That was a big loss. Turned out to be a big gain for Texas.

    Also lost Trea Turner and Scherzer after trading prospects for them.

    So it hit them too...but they res-pent wisely while other teams didn't spend their record profits or spent poorly.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 31,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @stevek said:

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just don't see how a small market team like Milwaukee will ever be able to dispatch of the Dodgers come playoffs time

    the Brewers' total payroll allocations are a third of what LA's is. hell, the Dodgers' astronomical figure is almost 50 mil more than the Yankees'

    how can you compete with that?

    congratulations on your championship, you had the best team.........that money can buy

    and thank you for making me even less of a fan than i already am

    The Dodgers do what every fan base wishes their team would do. The Cubs basically print money(and also own the whole neighborhood) but they keep a higher percentage of their profits.

    Purportedly:

    The Dodgers spent 73% of their revenue. The Cubs spent 36% of theirs.

    The Dodgers 20204 revenue compared to their 2025 salary+tax was plus 203 Million.

    The Cubs were plus 371 million.

    Even the Brewers were plus 198 million and the Sh!t Sox plus 190 million.

    So what happened coming into 2025? The Cubs gave Bellinger away in a pure salary dump. They could have used him in the playoffs over some of their over matched hitters. They might have won that series. Their manager also thought they had Sandy Koufax and started Boyd on three days rest in game one(so dumb decision category). Had they spent that Bellinger money on another viable starting pitcher, then they may not have had to start Boyd in game one..

    The White Sox extend guys like Leury Garcia and end up cutting him before the contract ends.

    So club greed and bad decisions in player personnel are really what is holding people back from the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers hit home runs on their big free agent expenditures....Freeman, Ohtani, Yammamoto(before he even pitched in MLB), Tesocar. While other teams spend millions for locked in years on Kris Bryant, Javy Baez, Benintendi, Anthony Rendon, Strasburg, etc, etc, etc.

    Just think if during this run the Dodgers went after Strasburg, Kris Bryant, and Rendon instead. It would be a whole different conversation.

    Otherr teams choose to keep more of their money or spend it poorly.

    Red Sox gave Mookie Betts away. Do they look very dumb now for not trying him at 2B and SS???

    If you are a Cub fan, I have no idea why you hand money over to the Cubs. To each their own I guess.

    I forget the player's name, but in the early part of last century the Red Sox sold one of their star players to the Yankees. That transaction "cursed" the Red Sox for many decades.

    After that fiasco, I don't recall the Red Sox going out of business.

    This chit has been going on for a long time

    George something.

    Absolutely has been going on forever.

    I think they named a candy bar after him, although the confectionary owner stated it was named after his granddaughter or some BS. LOL

  • burghmanburghman Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭✭

    Ah, yes - the tale of George Reese and those Reese’s Pieces ;)

    As a Pirate fan, my only hope is a long work stoppage to get a cap system (cap, floor, revenue sharing) in place. The top 1% will lose some salary but the bottom 30% salaries will skyrocket.

    Jim

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In terms of team spending yes a lot of team owners just hoard the profits instead of putting it on the field. You cant buy championships in baseball though. The Dodgers have 1 title since 1981, that Mickey Mouse 2020 title doesnt count then they barely played 1/3rd of the regular season. The Mets spend just as much as the Dodgers and didnt even make the playoffs.

    As for Othani yes that contract will pay for itself. The true cost of the contract for the Dodgers is much less than 700 mil given that Othani makes only 2 million a year for 10 years then they start paying him the 68 million a year for the next 10 years.

    Othani also makes about 50-60 million a year in endorsements which is almost exclusively from Asia and blows everyone else out of the water. Japan and South Korea treat baseball like Europe treats soccer and Othani is the biggest star there. Add in Yamamoto and yea the Dodgers are bringing in a boat load of money from Asia

    Fire AJ Preller

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burghman said:
    Ah, yes - the tale of George Reese and those Reese’s Pieces ;)

    As a Pirate fan, my only hope is a long work stoppage to get a cap system (cap, floor, revenue sharing) in place. The top 1% will lose some salary but the bottom 30% salaries will skyrocket.

    As a Pirate fan your only hope is for the owner to sell the team. Revenue sharing doesnt make teams more competitive, it just encourages the bad owners to spend less and pocket more money.

    Fire AJ Preller

  • bgrbgr Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's science!

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 20, 2025 12:52PM

    All these commodities are only avenues used for the fulfillment of the end goal:💰💰💰.
    Not sure it's done so much for the love of the game.

    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The owners want a cap so that they can pocket more money and have an excuse to do it. Othani is an anomaly where he makes so much in endorsements that he can defer 680 million which reduces his luxury tax number to 46 million a year instead of the 70. The Mets had the same number and missed the playoffs.

    Revenue will keep increasing and unfortunately like BlueJayway stated there are a lot of current owners that just want to pocket the money and have the lowest possible payrolls despite vastly increasing revenue.

    Fire AJ Preller

  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They will be using their merchandising money pile to purchase Kyle Tucker. And still have enough left over to find bench guys or relief pitchers or who’s the latest foreign phenom?

    Hell hath no fury like a Northside slump.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:
    They will be using their merchandising money pile to purchase Kyle Tucker. And still have enough left over to find bench guys or relief pitchers or who’s the latest foreign phenom?

    Murakami is the best hitter, and Imai is the best starter. Theres a couple more but most expected to be posted are close to 30 years old including Imai. Murakami is likely the best but wouldnt necessarily say phenom

    Fire AJ Preller

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ithink a salary floor would greatly help parity for MLB.

    NFL has the cap, but all teams have to spend at least 89% of the cap. they cannot have a $75MM a year payroll and pocket the rest as profit. That is part of the reason why teams like Detroit and Buffalo can be relevant.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭

    As a Dodger fan I am perfectly fine with how things are, of course. However, I also don't get too excited if they win as I realize they have a big advantage. I am not going to be posting non-stop on Facebook about it as I realize the position they are in. On the other hand if my Sacramento Kings ever go deep in the playoffs I'll be posting non-stop and wearing Kings gear 24/7!

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Players arent going to go for a hard cap. The NFL cap can be manipulated if owners want to anyways. Theres more parity in MLB than there is in the NF when you look at the champions over the last 20 years.

    The problem with MLB is that with how advanced the college game is now you can have playoff caliber teams with a bunch of young guys that you dont have to really start paying for multiple years and a lot of owners are fine with the approach that if they can do it that way great if not oh well.

    Fire AJ Preller

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