Can Anyone date this off center struck Indian Head Cent
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I have my guess, but I would like to se if anyone else has a thought on this one.
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How would we be able to date it? The date is completely cut off.
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1864-1886, based on the feather position relative to foot of A.
Hint: I did not use the die crack to date this coin. But the way I see this, it can only be one date! With enough evidence, one might be able to convince PCGS to put a date on this holder.
Die clash?
Ok....I think this is an 1864 No L.
The hubs changed slightly when they changed the design from a no L to a w/L in 1864.
There is a very minor difference on the headdress on the forehead. On the 1864 w/L and all coins dated afterwards, you can see it very slightly extend into the field. The 1864 no L variant has a flush headrest with the field. I have tried to circle the differences in the 2 attached pics:
No L
With L
How about that feather above the L?
Some good detective work there.
1st thing I saw was die crack. I know that several IHC's in 60's, including 64, 66 and 69 are known for obverse die cracks, but w/o books wouldn't have tried a guess. No access to books till I return home on Sunday. Some great info here though that I did not know. Thanks for post.
Jim
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Nice detective work Jonathan! You sent me to my reference book - agree with your analysis!
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Cool thread. I learned something, thanks.
So it could be an 1859- 1863 cent as well?
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Looks copper to me rather than CN - - good analysis!
It could be….but it really looks bronze. CN Indian head cents are much thicker, pretty sure that would have been caught by PCGS.
The hubs changed in 1864 when they went to the w/L variant, so anything before that (CN from 1859-1864 included) was the same hub that was used in the no/L bronze variety.