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What do you think of these 1964 Proof's

I grabbed a set today for $30, it was sealed and the two below I thought were the best of the bunch. Would you get them graded or are they too common?


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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its very hard to judge proof coins from photos. They look nice, but i cant say if they are worth paying to get certified. I would leave them raw.

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  • CregCreg Posts: 953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2025 3:50PM

    I like the proofs’ luster. They are nice proofs. My proof’s luster is not as nice as your quarter’s luster.
    This proves that shinier is better to me.

    I cannot grade them, much less tell CAM or DCAM. Regular proofs are common, though. Look at the PCGS Coin Facts App for the values of the grades and the finishes while you wait for the folks who might reckon something.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think they both are gorgeous, but to be worth the cost, they both would have to grade 68DCAM and they may but impossible for me to ascertain from a photo, which are very good photos.
    Jim


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  • dipset512dipset512 Posts: 72 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the feedback, something to think about.

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII is the expert here for these coins, but the degree or severity of hairlines should be a big factor in whether they are worth grading.

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    sending coins into be graded is a gamble in itself ,the question is do you think the coins are worth the cost

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  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are way too common. Put them in a holder but I wouldn't spend the money on grading.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.

    Nobody here can or will tell you how to grade based on photos or egos, etc.

    Assess and grade them yourself then send off and the results will help you tremendously.

    I see DCAM perhaps.

  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 277 ✭✭✭

    Nice coins.. United and of America on the reverse of the half will be a problem for cam and Dcam.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2025 1:33PM

    Common, common, common. Don't waste money having such common coins graded.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems these have already found their way onto ebay.

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  • dipset512dipset512 Posts: 72 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the comments!

    Would it make a difference if the half was the Type 1 Reverse, straight G?


  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your pictures make them look very nice. It is near impossible to tell if/how many hairlines they have which is very important in gem proof grading.

    I don't think the type 1 reverse is recognized by PCGS although other TPGs might for added cost.

    I might submit if I had a registry set they are involved with or if I have quite a few coins going already.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,179 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.

    Nobody here can or will tell you how to grade based on photos or egos, etc.

    Assess and grade them yourself then send off and the results will help you tremendously.

    I see DCAM perhaps.

    I don’t know anyone who’s learned to grade from submitting two coins to a grading company. There are much better ways to learn.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • dipset512dipset512 Posts: 72 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.

    Nobody here can or will tell you how to grade based on photos or egos, etc.

    Assess and grade them yourself then send off and the results will help you tremendously.

    I see DCAM perhaps.

    I don’t know anyone who’s learned to grade from submitting two coins to a grading company. There are much better ways to learn.

    The intent isn't to learn to grade, but rather which to send to grade and what to keep as raw if that makes sense.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,179 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dipset512 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.

    Nobody here can or will tell you how to grade based on photos or egos, etc.

    Assess and grade them yourself then send off and the results will help you tremendously.

    I see DCAM perhaps.

    I don’t know anyone who’s learned to grade from submitting two coins to a grading company. There are much better ways to learn.

    The intent isn't to learn to grade, but rather which to send to grade and what to keep as raw if that makes sense.

    I understand that and was simply replying to a post that said “Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.”

    As a number of posters have already stated, Proof coins can’t usually be graded accurately from images and your two would likely need to grade at least 68 to merit the cost of grading.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • dipset512dipset512 Posts: 72 ✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @dipset512 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.

    Nobody here can or will tell you how to grade based on photos or egos, etc.

    Assess and grade them yourself then send off and the results will help you tremendously.

    I see DCAM perhaps.

    I don’t know anyone who’s learned to grade from submitting two coins to a grading company. There are much better ways to learn.

    The intent isn't to learn to grade, but rather which to send to grade and what to keep as raw if that makes sense.

    I understand that and was simply replying to a post that said “Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.”

    As a number of posters have already stated, Proof coins can’t usually be graded accurately from images and your two would likely need to grade at least 68 to merit the cost of grading.

    This was my mistake, I was trying to quote reply to @Coinscratch from your reply and I didn't do it right.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    Grading fees or in this case tuition is a small price to pay to learn how to grade.

    Nobody here can or will tell you how to grade based on photos or egos, etc.

    Assess and grade them yourself then send off and the results will help you tremendously.

    I see DCAM perhaps.

    I don’t know anyone who’s learned to grade from submitting two coins to a grading company. There are much better ways to learn.

    Me either it took me more like 200 but you have to start somewhere and I don’t think they have any coin grading classes at my local junior college.

    On a sidenote, just when I thought I had it all figured out I recently sent my very first coin back, not for reconsideration but raw from a cracked out MS 66 Kennedy that I had to put in my album.
    And it popped to a 67, happy for that but sad for all of the others I sold as 66s.

    @dipset512 if they were mine, I would send the Kennedy but that’s just me.

  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,623 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I say Roll the Dice and send them in.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,374 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't it difficult to learn to grade when there are many different graders who do not see the same things every time? Sometimes with the repeat submission of the same coin?

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