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1838 Seated Dime CAC- P01

OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm not a grader but doesn't this have a little to much meat on the bone to be a P01?

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t see any meat on the reverse.

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen straight graded P01's with no visible dates. That doesn't sound right to me.

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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2025 11:00PM

    I agree with the grade due to the slick reverse, but I'd personally call the obverse FR02 or even AG03.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,608 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ya did good on the grade, jmo

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rec78 said:
    CAC is not PCGS or even NGC. You should break it out and send it to PCGS to compare.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

    It's not mine but an interesting concept. It seems many of these TPG'ers standards for P01's are all over the map.

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    seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You might want to compare this situation to that of the 1855-S Seated Half. I have yet to see an 1855-S that does not have near or full good-4 details on the reverse but is slabbed AG-3.. They use the lowest sides grade as the determine grade with slab companies. i say, just be happy with the free extra details. james

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    Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭

    I would say AG-3

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not just dispense with the number goofiness and say "slick" on the holder?

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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What else could they call it? You can’t have a FR-2 with a completely slick reverse.

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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since the “O” mm coin of this date had no stars, no need to see the reverse.

    I like it, but I like a little more meat on mine, 65 points or so would help! ;)

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I'm not a grader but doesn't this have a little to much meat on the bone to be a P01?

    Reverse is a slick, but the obv looks AG-3 quality. Take the average and you get 1.5, round down to a PO-01, and everyone's happy.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is really a mixed grade coin with an AG 3 obverse and a Poor 1 reverse. I don't see it as a coin that would appeal to low ball collectors.

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As long as non-lowball coins are graded based on their weakest side, it only makes sense for lowball coins to be barred from grading PO1 if either side is Fair or better. I would grade the coin in question a 2.

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    Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I'm not a grader but doesn't this have a little to much meat on the bone to be a P01?

    Reverse is a slick, but the obv looks AG-3 quality. Take the average and you get 1.5, round down to a PO-01, and everyone's happy.

    Aren't you supposed to round 5 up?

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a real consensus here. I guess it's still subjective or personal preference.

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coins3675 said:

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I'm not a grader but doesn't this have a little to much meat on the bone to be a P01?

    Reverse is a slick, but the obv looks AG-3 quality. Take the average and you get 1.5, round down to a PO-01, and everyone's happy.

    Aren't you supposed to round 5 up?

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    WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I was looking for a Poor-1 that is not a coin I would want.

    Some coins cannot be described with one number. Sometimes two sided grading is better. I would call that one an AG-3 plus obverse and a Slick-0 reverse.

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:
    If I was looking for a Poor-1 that is not a coin I would want.

    Some coins cannot be described with one number. Sometimes two sided grading is better. I would call that one an AG-3 plus obverse and a Slick-0 reverse.

    I think straight graded PO-1's are desirable (rare) because they are apparently not easy to find on certain coins.

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it should have a ‘gold’ sticker, potential upgrade

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    safari_dudesafari_dude Posts: 683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where’s Mark Feld when you need him? 🤔😉

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