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ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 272 ✭✭✭
edited September 22, 2025 3:28PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Came back PCGS MS64
Really thought it had a shot at 65


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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,918 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Confusing thread title. :#

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lustrous 64.
    Do you agree there is too much chatter in the obverse fields and on the cheek to warrant a GEM grade?

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I liked it better in the NGC slab.

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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not just Trueview - most coin photos will bring out the worst and best of the coin.

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  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 272 ✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2025 4:13PM

    @braddick said:
    Lustrous 64.
    Do you agree there is too much chatter in the obverse fields and on the cheek to warrant a GEM grade?

    To be honest it's possible that I was putting too much hope into the cheek and the definition above the ear.
    But I felt that the breaks in the frost of luster weren't serious enough to preclude a gem grade.
    And to be honest, The reverse is all that and a bag of chips..

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you crossover or crack it? Your chance of upgrade in slab from NGC to PC is minuscule. Handsome coin but left obverse field is likely grade-limiting.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 272 ✭✭✭

    @breakdown said:
    Did you crossover or crack it? Your chance of upgrade in slab from NGC to PC is minuscule. Handsome coin but left obverse field is likely grade-limiting.

    I cracked it.. Actually I cracked about 8.

  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭

    Based on True view, I like the coin in the grade PCGS assigned. A little too much chatter for a 65 imho.

  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That TV is not a bad TV imo.

    The NGC pics are not a True representation of the coin imo.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marmac said:
    Based on True view, I like the coin in the grade PCGS assigned. A little too much chatter for a 65 imho.

    So you didn't like the grade that NGC assigned?

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better to have the nicest MS64 on the block rather than a minimal MS65.

    It is a terrific Morgan! I'll trade a bit of chatter for luster any day.

    peacockcoins

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a very expensive experiment. I agree with those who don't see a clean cheek, etc., or a real "gem" coin.

    There are just too many fees unless we're talking expensive coins, over $1000 or so, to warrant re-submissions, conservation/regrades, etc.. I've had a couple of these. Between shipping, grading, conservation, etc. there is no economic sense.

  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 - well NGC's grade was consistent with PCGS, though the picture of the coin in the NGC slab is not of a quality I would attempt to give a grade to.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marmac thats somenody taking a bad pic with a cell phone probably.

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  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    I liked it better in the NGC slab.

    I’m pretty sure is the same coin o:)

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2025 6:26PM

    @Aotearoa said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    I liked it better in the NGC slab.

    I’m pretty sure is the same coin o:)

    Yes it is, but I liked it in the NGC slab better.
    EDIT to add that the OP would have probably like the money he spent to cross it better as well

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  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 272 ✭✭✭
    edited September 22, 2025 6:43PM

    @gumby1234 said:

    @Aotearoa said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    I liked it better in the NGC slab.

    I’m pretty sure is the same coin o:)

    Yes it is, but I liked it in the NGC slab better.
    EDIT to add that the OP would have probably like the money he spent to cross it better as well

    I Cracked and used a voucher so no real loss. I bought this and the Walker in the ICG Plastic I posted for $120.00 together.
    On the same token I paid $325.00 for the GSA Morgan that came back MS64 DMPL. Used a voucher for the Walker that upgraded a point and a + and paid out of pocket for the GSA. The 2 Accented hair Kennedys I picked years ago for no more than $20.00 and they were vouchers as well.
    I didn't really spend that much and the GSA DMPL Pays for all of it plus I think.

    Edited to add The Kennedys were from proof sets I cherry picked.

  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 272 ✭✭✭

    @marmac said:
    Based on True view, I like the coin in the grade PCGS assigned. A little too much chatter for a 65 imho.

    You and braddic are probably correct. They say ownership ads a point ;) .

  • islemanguislemangu Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭✭

    The cheek cancels out the slightly more field chatter. That’s a gem

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  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭

    Title?

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 looks right to me. Nice coin.

    Collector, occasional seller

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