What is going on at sporting events lately?
Saint Ezzard
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There seems to be an epidemic of adults snatching stuff from kids at sporting events. There was a man that snatched a hat from a kid at the US Open tennis tournament recently, and now there is a woman making the news for taking a home run ball from a kid at a Phillies game, I think it was the kid's birthday.
The US Open incident
The Phillies incident
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The Phillies woman is being called Phillies Karen, she has her own action figure.
This is insane, Phillies Karen cards are popping up on eBay.
The kid got an autographed bat from the player that hit the home run to make up for the incident.
Unfortunately, Phillies Karen snatched the bat from the kid as well.
My precious!!! I needs my precious!!!
Sad to see adults acting like this. Kudos on the Phillies to have made it right in the end!!!
DD, Why are you not doing Joe's pick em?
Wasn't sure how 2dueces feels about it, we got into a fight a while back. I've gotten into a lot of fights around here in the past year or so and I've been trying to keep a low profile.
Whatever, don't be living in the past
Joe is a classy dude, jump. in and get those picks in!
Yeah, Phillies Phans are rather obnoxious.
Sincerely,
A Cubs Fan
Sounds good to me! 👍
I've already gotten into a number of debates about this on political forums where I've enjoyed posting for a long time. This story was everywhere even though technically of course it's nothing political. I took the following viewpoint and practically got my head chopped off, even from my long time forum friends on there. In which politically we agree on absolutely everything, but not on this story. But I call 'em as I see 'em and if I get the heat, well so be it. I wasn't worried about it, in the next news story discussion thread about topics not to be discussed here, we were good friends again.
Here's what I saw on the video, and my opinion on it:
The home run ball was hit, and it's bouncing around a bit in the stands. The ball winds-up stationary right at the feet of the woman. She looks down and sees it, and in her mind, since it's right at her feet, that it's obviously her ball (and I agree with her). So in her mind there no split second hurry to pick it up, and she probably just marveled at the coincidence of the ball being there, and then is about to reach down to pick it up.
Then the creepy guy from around ten rows over, suddenly runs to the ball like a hungry hyena after a wounded gazelle. He most rudely steps right in front of her, at her seat, and basically grabs the ball a split second before she did. The guy in my opinion was acting like a bully punk.
My opponents on this issue stated, I'm wrong, that the ball is anybody's ball until somebody officially grabs it. Well in my view, their view is pure BS in this case. Yes that would be correct if the home run ball is hit into near empty stands, and everyone is scrambling around to get it - that is fair play. But the woman paid for that seat, it's her seat throughout the game, and of course the area for her legs is part of that seat. The ball landed and stopped in her domain, therefore it was her ball.
The guy knew he was wrong, but the excitement of the home run ball, turned him into a creepy crawler who would do almost any sort of rude behavior to have that ball. That's precisely why when the woman came over to his seat and demanded the ball back, he immediately gave the ball to her.
BTW - I think the prize is 100 bucks. It's customary to reward the guy who convinces you to participate, to PayPal 10% of the prize money to him, and anyone who gives you a like for that, gets 5%.
It's insane, there are people, a lot of people, actively trying to identify the Phillies Karen. They thought they had her identity figured out but it turned out to be the wrong woman. Stay tuned as the latest news breaks in this story. Meanwhile, enjoy this painting of Phillies Karen.
Extremely sick for folks out there to do that to her, considering in my opinion, she had every right to that ball.
I don't have a problem with what she did either, I think people are getting bent out of shape about it because of the birthday kid being a part of the situation. If the kid wasn't involved they would be probably be yelling at the guy for stealing the ball from her.
watching that footage infuriates me.
stevek i love you man, but i straight up can't believe you're defending that see you next Tuesday. and i hate to call her that, but that's precisely what she is. an entitled lunatic. props to that dad -- i guarantee you if that had been me with my son the outcome would have been different. vastly different. zero -- and i mean Z-E-R-O -- chance that ball would have left my son's glove and gone into her hands. and the moment she put her hands on me, it would have gotten very real. i would have calmly and politely said you better remove your hand, turn around and go back to your seat.
i've been going to major league baseball games my entire life and if there's one unwritten rule, it's that foul/home run balls are fair game until someone gets their mitts on them. you better pounce on that baseball like it's a fumble if you want it. now, if that woman had actually had the baseball ripped out of her hands, we'd be having a different discussion. but because she dragged her feet, she gave some piranhas time to swoop in and nab it. too bad, so sad, act quicker next time.
and i hate to inject facts into a beautifully disgusting outburst, but the man was getting the ball for his son. unwritten rule #2, children take precedence over see you next Tuesdays. if i had been in her shoes, initially i would have been rather bummed that i didn't get my hands on the baseball first. but then when i saw the ball going to that man's son? i wouldn't have cared one iota. in fact, if i had snagged it and was anywhere near that kid, he would've gotten it anyway. because, you know, that's how adults are supposed to roll. unless you're a Karen who was born under a rock.
check out the link below. that wasn't the only incident she was involved in during that game. at one point she leaves her seat and gets in the face of another dude. the only thing she truly deserves is to be banned from that stadium forever because she was incapable of keeping her ass in her seat and leaving other fans alone. abhorrent, tone-deaf behavior by a grown ass woman.
hope you enjoy that baseball.........it's all fun and games until an internet sleuth figures out who you are
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Eric
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Its been known for decades if you dont pick up the ball its not yours whether its a HR or foul ball. The dad just didnt want to escalate the situation and the Phillies did a great job with how they handled it. Its just sitting on the floor he didnt throw punches or push he he just picked up something off the ground and she got irrationally angry. The ball isnt yours until you pick it up
Fire AJ Preller
Below is the video I saw. I stand by my statement.
I doubt very much if I would like that woman personally, but fair is fair.
Bottom line - She got the ball she deserved, and the guy's kid received a nice gift.
Unfortunately, the Philadelphia region is a very litigious area. Arguably the worst in the country.
That being said, those who went out of their way to smear this woman, in my opinion, within a few weeks or so, are going to receive notices from this woman's attorney. I'm not talking about the usual internet banter, opinions, insults, etc. I'm talking about some who posted her personal information. That was uncalled for.
After thinking about this for a minute, I have to admit though, there's no way I could have taken the ball away from the kid. That was some pretty cold stuff.
Latest update, Phillies Karen now has WANTED posters circulating online.
Yep, I knew it was only a matter of time, here come the t-shirts.
Bingo. Nailed it.
That is the definition of logic and common sense...especially in the sports world.
I just got around to. watching the video and my first takeaway is how ridiculous that guys reaction was when the woman first approached him lol
I can go both ways on this , I mean a foul ball. is whoever gets it first, the woman had the rights to it but that guy ran over and snatched it up.
I can go either way on it
Experts estimate this HR ball to be worth nothing.
Have to do a Madden recap. Here you can see the the results of the guy's closing speed ability. While he was about ten seats over, by the time she begins to bend, he is almost equal distance to the ball. Notice that it appears she is in the row behind to where the ball landed, which puts her further away from the ball vertically to make up for the lateral difference in distance.
By the time they both begin their bend to ready for the the reach of the ball, they are of equal distance from the ball. At this point it looks to be that there is no alleged "ownership" to the ball, perceived or otherwise. It is purely a toss up at this point.
Here they are in full bend at the exact same time, notice how she appears to be in the row behind and is higher, thus making it a farther reach for her. Still a toss up at this point. No clear ownership to the ball perceived or otherwise.
The victory grab. He has already completed the snatch and grab and she is still in her bend position and off balance from leaning from appearing to be in the row behind to try and grab the ball from his row. With quicker hands and an easier path to the ball, the guy gets the jump ball .
Allegedly and appearing so based on the video.
So answer me this one - who's fish is this????????????
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Au contraire mon frère…
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Eric
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The kid ultimately made out pretty good at the end.
https://www.mlb.com/news/harrison-bader-gifts-bat-to-fan-after-dispute-over-home-run-ball
Eric
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Still though - to a kid I bet a game ball that your Dad got and gave to you would mean a lot more than a bunch of new stuff given to you by people you don't know. .
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Maybe the guy could one night break-in to the Hall of Fame, and steal a home run ball for his kid, like he tried to steal one from that woman.
He will be in there wondering, should i steal the Babe Ruth ball or the Lou Gehrig ball? Decisions, decisions.
If it was a record-setting ball or some kind of a special home run and there was a mass of people going for the ball, it would be the property of the person that ended up with it.
This is no different. Guy is the one that ended up with it; ball belongs to the guy & the kid. Especially when the kid had it; who would take something away from a kid?
The "adult" woman mirrors the lack of class, empathy and social etiquette that is much more present nowadays and is unfortunately more acceptable.
@Steven59 Maybe, maybe not. It’s entirely possible that had Karen not jumped in to strong arm Pops, the novelty of that ball would have worn off by now. How do I know this? Because my 9yrs old son & I left a Sox/Yanks game from the early 2000’s with a Bernie Williams BP ball that I chased down for him, also got a Jason Varitek autograph too. Bought display stands for his room the following day and by the end of the week the were just sitting there collecting dust after the novelty of that day wore off.
Sucks that it played out the way that it did and in this case there’s an actual kid to point at while everyone is screaming What about the children? but in the end though he’ll be fine.
Eric
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If that woman showed the same speed and pep she used to come flying over to confront the family, and applied it to bending over and reaching into the row in front of her to grab a wide open ball, then she would have a ball she could be proud of. Now that thing is gonna be a thorn in her side for a while.
SteveK you are usually on the money...but you have a puzzling take on this one lol. That ball in no way is "hers". It wasn't even in her row.
Do you know her?
Some have stated they've been to ballparks many times. Well so have I. There is an unspoken rule of cordiality amongst the fans, even on a home run ball. That guy clearly violated that rule by being in a place which he shouldn't have been. He belonged in his own dam seat, or the small area around his seat, not ten rows over. He had absolutely no business being there. He was only there for his uncontrollable urge to steal somebody else's rightful baseball.
I've never seen anyone do something like that in a populated fan area, let alone be successful, albeit only for around a minute. As previously mentioned, a ball hit into empty or near empty stands, then a running scramble for it is fine and totally acceptable. What he did was unacceptable.
Yea sure, it's okay because he gave the ball to his son. BS. So when any thief steals something and gives it to his son as a gift, that's okay? Frankly, I can't stand thieves. Never have, never will. Whether it's Ebay scammers, department store looters, whatever.
Now there’s World Series tickets and an RV for this kid too lol.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/young-boy-gifted-marlins-goodie-bag-phillies-signed-bat-after-argument-over-home-run-ball/
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Now it's getting silly, let's send a message that if you deal with any adversity or not so nice situation your going to get over the top. rewarded, give me a break.
Good for the kid but this is over the top and stupid at this point
You don't get a trophy after every little bump. in the road
So the dad picked up the ball and this lady figured since it was near her seat it was hers.
The dad had put the ball into the son’s glove. The lady came over and was all “mahhh. Baaaawl!” So the dad took the ball out of the son’s glove and gave it to her.
She went back to her seat.
Honestly seems like it’s fine other than I do feel bad for the dad. Sucks when your middle fingers don’t work.
I elaborated on my point, and posted before seeing your post. In my view, what's right is right, it was her ball. Frankly, I'm glad the ball thief quickly decided to give it back to her.
Looks like he is being amply rewarded for doing that, which he shouldn't have been. But what the yell, that's fine with me. Everybody seems happy. Except for those who will be receiving coming lawsuits for recklessly posting the woman's personal information.
it is way too early on a Monday morning for me to try and decipher whether this is an authentic take or a troll job
i may pour a significant amount of Bailey's in my next cup of Joe and try again
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Don't bother. I'm done with this topic, and you should be to.
For you to think it's a "troll job", well sober up and maybe you'll think otherwise. 😂
i invite anyone to go to a major league baseball game and sit in the outfield seats. and if by some minute chance a home run ball lands anywhere near you, please report back to us and let us know what happened. i pray that it lands in a row where no one else is sitting. i'm fully prepared for one of you to come back and say that the outfield bleachers were littered with altruistic souls who parted the Red Sea for a Karen to bend over and pick it up from the row in front of her without anyone else making an attempt
then i'll wake up
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
https://youtube.com/shorts/bDUERAUgfiE?si=VthHu2f7-SjW0PCu
Eric
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I’ll be checking out tonight’s Phillies-Mets game because I can’t wait to see the mockery being made of this event. Who will have the courage to dress up like Karen and wear a wig with the 90s hairstyle? Stay tuned. 😂
elmago, try to -- without chuckling incessantly -- imagine that exact scenario playing out in the outfield bleachers at Wrigley
regale us with what you suspect would happen if it did
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Don’t listen to them! I appreciate and enjoy hearing your perspective. Your take on fan code was refreshing and I agree that you have never seen anyone do that in a populated area.
What surprised me the most was that this happened in Philadelphia. This is not what I’ve come to expect from those hailing from the City of Brotherly Love. Philos Adelphos as they said in Ancient Greece. They must be transplants from Texas!
Bleacher Bums are gentle, timid creatures who would never hurt an innocent old granny or an excitable kid who just wants a home run ball. We've already had our "event" this year. Unlike that poor kid in Pittsburgh who landed on the warning track, at least Cubbies fans got a basket to save their ass.
"this happened in Philadelphia"
No, the incident happened at the Marlins stadium. Just coincidentally it happened between two Phillies fans.
BTW - I know I'm in trouble when only bgr agrees with my point, even though I know he didn't mean it. 😉😆