1878-S Morgan Variety Attributions

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jgivigl
jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
edited September 1, 2025 7:35AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Need help grading this coin. I'm not sure if this coin has variety attributions.











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  • Lew
    Lew Posts: 173 ✭✭✭
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    gouge on cheek and lines in hair are unfortunate.
    However, this is a very hard to find 78-S VAM -- is a VAM-82.

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great images, what equipment/product(s) did you use to get them?
    Thanks in advance.

  • Coins3675
    Coins3675 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭
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    Nice photos

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  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    Is it worth sending out for grading?

  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    How do I submit this coin for multiple varieties. This pic looks like doubling on Liberty. The other pics look like foreign material stuck in die plus other varieties.

  • IkesT
    IkesT Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Slow your roll.

  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    tell me how

  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    This coin is also proof like

  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    Worth grading or not? Variety or not? That's the only question.

  • Rc5280
    Rc5280 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jgivigl said:
    Worth grading or not? Variety or not? That's the only question.

    https://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1878-S_VAMs

  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @IkesT said:
    Slow your roll.

  • yosclimber
    yosclimber Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jgivigl said:
    How do I submit this coin for multiple varieties. This pic looks like doubling on Liberty. The other pics look like foreign material stuck in die plus other varieties.

    Doubling on LIBERTY is part of VAM-82.
    Do you understand what VAM-82 means?
    https://vamworld.com/wiki/1878-S_VAM-82

  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    I Don't see VAM-82 on PCGS vam list.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jgivigl said:
    I Don't see VAM-82 on PCGS vam list.

    If the variety you have is not listed on the PCGS variety list that they recognize, they they will not put the variety on the holder.
    Every Morgan Dollar is a variety. Only a few are recognized as such as most are very minor.
    Fun to look at and search to see what variety you have but usually not worth the effort.

    bob :)

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  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jgivigl said:
    I Don't see VAM-82 on PCGS vam list.

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1878-7tf-1-r78-vam-82-doubled-stars-pl/40245/65

  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Since VAM 82 is not on one of the major "chase lists," the only grading company that will attribute it is ANACS. It would grade AU details, scratched. While it is hard to find, I don't know how many collectors there are for that variety at a premium. If you just want it attributed and not graded, my service (VSS) can do that, although my holder supplier is backordered until the end of September and I'm out of holders, so it will take longer than normal.

    John
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  • jgivigl
    jgivigl Posts: 58 ✭✭
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    I'm tired of PCGS and NGC's grading standards.
    It's become a duopoly where two major firms dominate the market and dictate what’s considered valuable. Too often, coins that aren’t high grade — or have been lightly cleaned — are dismissed or downgraded, even though they still hold significant historical and collector value.

    Not every collector is chasing flawless mint state coins. Many of us value the rarity, story, and character that comes with circulated or older pieces — even if they show signs of age or honest handling. Grading should recognize and respect that, not reduce everything to surface perfection.

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Your silver dollar is neither rare or valuable. It is a details coin that is not worth getting certified.

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