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BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 31, 2025 5:22AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I stumbled down the pattern rabbit hole because if you don’t buy them when you can, you won’t have the chance to buy them when you start to collect them later… post your patterns



Latin American Collection

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  • Coinlover101Coinlover101 Posts: 181 ✭✭✭

    Nice coins!!

    I have a prototype Vatican 1 Euro (or is it 2 Euro) somewhere. I must have bought that around 20 years ago (hopefully it's toned mad but I doubt it). I'll try to find it for a pic.

    Peace

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oy vey!

    You can say that about anything. Just admit it. You’re in love!

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of course, I kid @Boosibri. Those are fabulous patterns. I’m glad he fell down the rabbit hole and think those are great additions to a great collection. I’m just so sorry about the Portales. I’m probably more sad than @Boosibri!

    In the past, I would have been competition on them, but since coin prices have escalated so much, I find myself staying in my swim lane these days. I’ve learned the hard way, you can’t spread yourself too thin.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1926 Great Britain Peace Crown Pattern:

    1926 Great Britain 2 Shillings or Florin Rose Pattern:

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Korea 1886


  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:
    Of course, I kid @Boosibri. Those are fabulous patterns. I’m glad he fell down the rabbit hole and think those are great additions to a great collection. I’m just so sorry about the Portales. I’m probably more sad than @Boosibri!

    In the past, I would have been competition on them, but since coin prices have escalated so much, I find myself staying in my swim lane these days. I’ve learned the hard way, you can’t spread yourself too thin.

    I’ve still been unable to find the 1910 listed anywhere else,

    Latin American Collection

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 said:

    This coin came to you from me (via HA).

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2025 6:23PM

    @pruebas said:

    This coin came to you from me (via HA).

    I like it because it is hard to find such dramatic large size mint error. If this is a US coin it will cost 10 times higher.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No patterns in my collection. Should I fix that?

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:
    No patterns in my collection. Should I fix that?

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

  • rwyarmchrwyarmch Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭✭

    British Historical Medals https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOBxKspf6DVpvjgXptTKSr_tZcyeWIRJRBX7ZklmSP59IKhtiAkgF2NB0-Vxyhz1w?key=OGdSRXJtZWdsb2VodmNEdWJ4VF9jY01YdmJtRTlB
    Conder Token Gallery https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMCiunai6NjOxoo3zREkCsAnNm4vONzieO3u7tHyhm8peZmRD_A0MXmnWT2dzJ-nw?key=Rlo2YklUSWtEY1NWc3BfVm90ZEUwU25jLUZueG9n
  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2, 2025 7:08AM

    Is there a book on Mexican patterns? And if so is it a book worth owning?

    I found this one is this the go to book?

    Member here for 5 years

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s on cuartillios

    Latin American Collection

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

    A dealer once told me that if coins don’t trade, people can’t collect them and thus there is no interest and prices don’t rise.

    It seems logical. That’s why I started selling my dups.

    This is only a problem with Latin America, where surviving populations are low.

    Maybe @MrEureka can comment?

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

    A dealer once told me that if coins don’t trade, people can’t collect them and thus there is no interest and prices don’t rise.

    It seems logical. That’s why I started selling my dups.

    This is only a problem with Latin America, where surviving populations are low.

    Maybe @MrEureka can comment?

    Tell that to Dunigan and Max

    Latin American Collection

  • RSPRSP Posts: 74 ✭✭

    Perhaps someone would be kind enough to post a picture of PCGS #46339015. It is a handsome coin from the Huntington collection ; possibly unique and described as a pattern of the unadopted Isabel II gold design type and struck in silver.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

    A dealer once told me that if coins don’t trade, people can’t collect them and thus there is no interest and prices don’t rise.

    It seems logical. That’s why I started selling my dups.

    This is only a problem with Latin America, where surviving populations are low.

    Maybe @MrEureka can comment?

    Agreed, more or less. When one collector dominates a market, other collectors become discouraged and choose to collect something else. Then, when the dominant collector sells, other collectors seize the opportunity to start collecting the coins. The Simpson collection of U.S. patterns is a perfect example, in both ways. And in world coins, the dispersal of Richard Stuart’s collection of Central American coins is a textbook example of how a fresh supply of coins can turn a ghost town of a market into a bullish feeding frenzy. Of course it doesn’t always play out like that. Sometimes, the big collector decides to sell and nobody cares.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2025 2:43PM

    @bosox said:
    Uniface Canada 1858 Cent Pattern (PC-2). Ex Farouk and Norweb. About six of these known.

    Wow amazing coin congrats on owning such a coin!!! I am Canadian and never even seen one these before (collected Canadian coins for over 10 years).

    Would you mind me asking the value is on such a coin? If not I understand.

    Member here for 5 years

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Early_Milled_Latin_America said:

    @bosox said:
    Uniface Canada 1858 Cent Pattern (PC-2). Ex Farouk and Norweb. About six of these known.

    Wow amazing coin congrats on owning such a coin!!! I am Canadian and never even seen one these before (collected Canadian coins for over 10 years).

    Would you mind me asking the value is on such a coin? If not I understand.

    A nice one turned up in a sale in Europe a few months ago and brought about US$23K all in. More than I thought it was worth if for resale, but I suppose it’s just about priceless to a serious collector.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • WildWestHalfDollarsWildWestHalfDollars Posts: 6,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @Early_Milled_Latin_America said:

    @bosox said:
    Uniface Canada 1858 Cent Pattern (PC-2). Ex Farouk and Norweb. About six of these known.

    Wow amazing coin congrats on owning such a coin!!! I am Canadian and never even seen one these before (collected Canadian coins for over 10 years).

    Would you mind me asking the value is on such a coin? If not I understand.

    A nice one turned up in a sale in Europe a few months ago and brought about US$23K all in. More than I thought it was worth if for resale, but I suppose it’s just about priceless to a serious collector.

    Thanks MrEureka much appreciated!!!

    Member here for 5 years

  • bosoxbosox Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2025 8:00PM

    I paid less than that for mine, but that was nearly ten years .

    @MrEureka - do you have an auction link? I did not see that one. Thanks in advance.

    Numismatic author & owner of the Uncommon Cents collections. 2011 and 2025 Fred Bowman award winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson award winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca award winner.

    http://www.victoriancent.com
  • 1984worldcoins1984worldcoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2025 6:17AM

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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

    A dealer once told me that if coins don’t trade, people can’t collect them and thus there is no interest and prices don’t rise.

    It seems logical. That’s why I started selling my dups.

    This is only a problem with Latin America, where surviving populations are low.

    Maybe @MrEureka can comment?

    Agreed, more or less. When one collector dominates a market, other collectors become discouraged and choose to collect something else. Then, when the dominant collector sells, other collectors seize the opportunity to start collecting the coins. The Simpson collection of U.S. patterns is a perfect example, in both ways. And in world coins, the dispersal of Richard Stuart’s collection of Central American coins is a textbook example of how a fresh supply of coins can turn a ghost town of a market into a bullish feeding frenzy. Of course it doesn’t always play out like that. Sometimes, the big collector decides to sell and nobody cares.

    It sounds like what you are saying is when the dominant collector sells, there is a feeding frenzy. But why would that be the case if all the other collectors have gravitated to other areas due to lack of material to collect?

    Unless there is material to collect in that area, no one will collect that area. Then when a collector in that area sells, there will be no one to buy.

    Am I missing something?

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

    A dealer once told me that if coins don’t trade, people can’t collect them and thus there is no interest and prices don’t rise.

    It seems logical. That’s why I started selling my dups.

    This is only a problem with Latin America, where surviving populations are low.

    Maybe @MrEureka can comment?

    Agreed, more or less. When one collector dominates a market, other collectors become discouraged and choose to collect something else. Then, when the dominant collector sells, other collectors seize the opportunity to start collecting the coins. The Simpson collection of U.S. patterns is a perfect example, in both ways. And in world coins, the dispersal of Richard Stuart’s collection of Central American coins is a textbook example of how a fresh supply of coins can turn a ghost town of a market into a bullish feeding frenzy. Of course it doesn’t always play out like that. Sometimes, the big collector decides to sell and nobody cares.

    It sounds like what you are saying is when the dominant collector sells, there is a feeding frenzy. But why would that be the case if all the other collectors have gravitated to other areas due to lack of material to collect?

    Unless there is material to collect in that area, no one will collect that area. Then when a collector in that area sells, there will be no one to buy.

    Am I missing something?

    Like I said, it doesn’t always play out that way. But to answer your question, the surge of buyers can be any combination of former specialists seeing an opportunity to jump back in, current specialists pumped up for a long awaited major opportunity, and newbies recognizing an opportunity to jump into a new area to collect. I’ve done all of those things over the years, and it seems perfectly normal to me.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:

    @pruebas said:

    @MrEureka said:

    @pruebas said:

    @Abuelo said:

    @pruebas said:

    Of course. Everyone needs some patterns. (And medals. And tokens.)

    They help to tell the story.

    The problem is that nearly all of them were already bought... by you! :D

    A dealer once told me that if coins don’t trade, people can’t collect them and thus there is no interest and prices don’t rise.

    It seems logical. That’s why I started selling my dups.

    This is only a problem with Latin America, where surviving populations are low.

    Maybe @MrEureka can comment?

    Agreed, more or less. When one collector dominates a market, other collectors become discouraged and choose to collect something else. Then, when the dominant collector sells, other collectors seize the opportunity to start collecting the coins. The Simpson collection of U.S. patterns is a perfect example, in both ways. And in world coins, the dispersal of Richard Stuart’s collection of Central American coins is a textbook example of how a fresh supply of coins can turn a ghost town of a market into a bullish feeding frenzy. Of course it doesn’t always play out like that. Sometimes, the big collector decides to sell and nobody cares.

    It sounds like what you are saying is when the dominant collector sells, there is a feeding frenzy. But why would that be the case if all the other collectors have gravitated to other areas due to lack of material to collect?

    Unless there is material to collect in that area, no one will collect that area. Then when a collector in that area sells, there will be no one to buy.

    Am I missing something?

    Like I said, it doesn’t always play out that way. But to answer your question, the surge of buyers can be any combination of former specialists seeing an opportunity to jump back in, current specialists pumped up for a long awaited major opportunity, and newbies recognizing an opportunity to jump into a new area to collect. I’ve done all of those things over the years, and it seems perfectly normal to me.

    However, I don’t think any of those potential categories of buyers would be willing to pay record prices compared with an existing collector wanting to add to or complete his collection.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And do not forget investors... The prices I have seen lately cannot be paid just by collectors.

  • StellaStella Posts: 722 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
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