GRADE THE GRADING SERVICES, A=GREAT, B=GOOD, C=AVERAGE, D=ACCEPTABLE, E=UNACCEPTABLE X=NO OPINION,

KOYNGUY · August 30, 2025 7:20PM

ANACS, CACG, NGC, PCGS, ICG, OLD CAC STICKER, NEW CAC STICKER.
Grade them on 1 Authentication, 2 Attribution accuracy, 3 Consistency, 4 Guaranteed Grade/Authenticity/Variety Attribution" 5 Customer Service, 6 Grading Accuracy, 7 Grader Staff Experience. 8 Market acceptability, 9 Turnaround Example #11, XYZ Grading Co. 1B, 2B, 3A, 4D, 5C, 6X, 7E, 8C. 9.C
GRADE AS FEW OR MANY AS YOU'D LIKE, DON'T WANT YOUR OPINION PUBLIC? DIRECT EM ME, I'LL ADD YOU ANONYMOUSLY AFTER POLLING IS DONE

FlyingAl · August 30, 2025 7:26PM

ANACS - X
CACG - X
NGC - X
PCGS - X
ICG - X
CAC - X
SEGS - X
ANA - X

FlyingAl Grading - A

marcmoish · August 30, 2025 7:32PM

This thread must be timed for the long weekend🫢

No opinion, but this one shows promise.
@FlyingAl Grading - A

jmlanzaf · August 30, 2025 7:47PM

CACG

This has to be the worst poll this forum has ever seen.

KOYNGUY · August 30, 2025 7:50PM

How so? Anything positive to add? Just trying to get some keys tapping over the weekend. J.P.

MsMorrisine · August 30, 2025 7:50PM

can't last long on tuesday

MsMorrisine · August 30, 2025 7:51PM

plus it's a public pll

KOYNGUY · August 30, 2025 7:52PM

PLL?
POLL?
There is a way to reply anonymously. I am interested to find out what board members think. I assume most everyone would. Rail or praise.

KOYNGUY · August 30, 2025 8:03PM

Listen, I am grounded for the next few days with a minor medical condition. I rarely engage on these boards and would like to get a buzz going. If it's not your cup of tea to rap with a guy with 50 years in the biz, move on then. Otherwise hit me with your best shot. J.P.

MsMorrisine · August 30, 2025 8:28PM

can sympathize i've been sick a few days now. about all i can do the past few months has been this due to some kind of brain fog(no covid ever)

U1chicago · August 30, 2025 8:38PM

I’d be around a B for each one…some used to be A but customer service or extended grading times has knocked them back one.

KOYNGUY · August 30, 2025 9:07PM

All right, I'll get this party started
. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.
ANACS - . A A B A A B A C B
CACG - . X X X C A B B B B
NGC - A B B A C B C B B
PCGS - A B B A C A C A B
ICG - B B X X B C C D B
CAC - B B X B B C B B B
SEGS - B A X C X X B X B
(ANA)CS A A C B B C B C C

1 Authentication, 2 Attribution accuracy, 3 Consistency, 4 Guaranteed Grade/Authenticity/Variety Attribution" 5 Customer Service, 6 Grading Accuracy, 7 Grader Staff Experience. 8 Market acceptability, 9 Turnaround.
As always, my personal experience and continued high opinion and respect to our host.

oldabeintx · August 30, 2025 9:09PM

CACG

I clicked on one only just to see how the poll worked. I’m about coins.

KOYNGUY · August 30, 2025 9:33PM

I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

lermish · August 30, 2025 10:37PM

@KOYNGUY said:
I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

I appreciate the effort...but it is ludicrously complex and unintelligible.

Russell12 · August 31, 2025 3:20AM

Your poll is too messy, Should have simplified it.

PeakRarities · August 31, 2025 3:26AM

CACG

SEGS should be E all the way across. They are NO LONGER a feasible or even remotely authentic grading service as of several years ago. Do a google search for "SEGS KDC NJ" and youll find plenty of supporting info.

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 5:15AM

CACG

@KOYNGUY said:
How so? Anything positive to add? Just trying to get some keys tapping over the weekend. J.P.

One, it violated the forum rules by asking us to potentially trash a TPG.

Also "CAC" is not a "grading service".

But, mostly, it's NOT A POLL!

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 5:17AM

CACG

@KOYNGUY said:
I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

You haven't. You created a poll that allows you to choose a grading service not rate them.

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 5:21AM

CACG

@lermish said:

@KOYNGUY said:
I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

I appreciate the effort...but it is ludicrously complex and unintelligible.

I disagree. The "poll" is very simple. It allows you to choose a single grading service. Of course the question is different than the poll...

Walkerfan · August 31, 2025 6:50AM

PCGS or NGC only for me! If it has a CAC sticker, that’s a bonus!!

ANACS-C
CACG-A, E &X (too strict and overpriced and unfeasible for my NGC registry set).
NGC-B
PCGS-B
ICG-D
CAC 2007-2022-A
CAC 2022-DATE-A
SEIGS-E
ANA ANACS-C

messydesk · August 31, 2025 6:56AM

I expect a $100 Visa gift card for taking any poll requiring more than 50 answers.

Mr_Spud · August 31, 2025 7:17AM

I predict the results will be skewed by voters misintrepreting the ranking system because of the complexity the instructions. It happens frequently where I work where we sometimes do panel testing of new flavored chewable dietary supplements when someone thinks a 1 is the best and 5 is the worst, but it’s really supposed to be 5 is the best and 1 is the worst and it makes the results skewed.

My preferences for slabs is PCGS, older is cooler and the coin has already stabilized in terms of any amateur restoration/conservation efforts by the submitter that was done incorrectly (the coin already would have “turned bad” by now if they attempted to doctor it), but newer PCGS that has an appealing Trueview and chip is also cool but then you gotta look more carefully for any “tells” indicating amateur restoration. Next is NGC for me, followed by old ANACS. Any others I would just go by the coin and do my own assessment and ignore the grade, except for CACg. For CACg, I only ever purchased 1 and then I cracked it out and put the coin into an album. I trusted the CACg and also wouldn’t feel the need to over-examine for amateur doctoring, but I’m too heavily invested in PCGS and NGC mentally and for my Registry sets, and I’m comfortable in purchasing even raw coins using my own judgement, so don’t feel much motivation to want to pay extra for the convenience of not having to assess the coin myself (which I believe is CACg’s greatest benefit, as in collectors know CACg is stricter for screening out potential problem coins).

HalfDime · August 31, 2025 7:33AM

I'm glad that you used the teacher grading of our current school systems.

pcgsregistrycollector · August 31, 2025 8:55AM

CAC 2022-DATE

how r we suposed to do et with da pol

MsMorrisine · August 31, 2025 11:17AM

@jmlanzaf said:
But, mostly, it's NOT A POLL!

it's a poll. opinions sought from multiple people

Colonialcoin · August 31, 2025 11:35AM

The most important thing about the larger TPG’s for me at least is making sure that the coin is genuine. As far as grading goes, I get it that grading is not an exact science, but clearly there is inconsistency with the graders when I read that people send in coins multiple times in order to get it in the “right holder”. Years ago a guy offered me a graded MS-66 1922 Peace dollar. It was graded by one of the big boys. He got upset with me when told him that I’m not interested in the coin after I pointed out the one inch long tooling along the outline of the eagles back. His argument was that it has to be a 66 because that was the grade on the holder. I couldn’t sell it in clear conscience because of it.

MsMorrisine · August 31, 2025 12:55PM

i have a preference for moderns, but it's different than classics. i don't like one for dmpl/pl and can/dcam designations. so, there's that for grading accuracy

124Spider · August 31, 2025 1:09PM

@KOYNGUY said:
How so? Anything positive to add? Just trying to get some keys tapping over the weekend. J.P.

Speaking only for myself, it is not a good poll simply because no objective criteria are given for grading them.

Different people like different things in a TPG.

PeakRarities · August 31, 2025 1:26PM

CACG

I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 2:13PM

CACG

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 2:14PM

CACG

@MsMorrisine said:

@jmlanzaf said:
But, mostly, it's NOT A POLL!

it's a poll. opinions sought from multiple people

What i meant is that it's not a forum poll because it's not using the polling option.

FlyingAl · August 31, 2025 2:20PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

@jmlanzaf posting a coin on the PCGS forums was most certainly NOT on my 2025 bingo card...

TrickleCharge · August 31, 2025 2:42PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

Wrong forum

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 2:43PM

CACG

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

Wrong forum

Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

TrickleCharge · August 31, 2025 2:52PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

Wrong forum

Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 2:56PM

CACG

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

Wrong forum

Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

Lol. The only "wrong forum" posts i ever comment on are the BST ones.

TrickleCharge · August 31, 2025 3:13PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

Wrong forum

Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

Lol. The only "wrong forum" posts i ever comment on are the BST ones.

The joke was more about how you can be quick to point out mistakes, which is actually a good thing here. I sorta see you like a direct and rough around the edges version of @MFeld . Sorry if I upset you, that wasn't my intention.

jmlanzaf · August 31, 2025 3:45PM

CACG

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@TrickleCharge said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@PeakRarities said:
I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

Lol.

I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

Wrong forum

Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

Lol. The only "wrong forum" posts i ever comment on are the BST ones.

The joke was more about how you can be quick to point out mistakes, which is actually a good thing here. I sorta see you like a direct and rough around the edges version of @MFeld . Sorry if I upset you, that wasn't my intention.

I'm not upset. I took your comments as being good natured.

GRADE THE GRADING SERVICES, A=GREAT, B=GOOD, C=AVERAGE, D=ACCEPTABLE, E=UNACCEPTABLE X=NO OPINION,

GRADE THE GRADING SERVICES, A=GREAT, B=GOOD, C=AVERAGE, D=ACCEPTABLE, E=UNACCEPTABLE X=NO OPINION,

GRADE THE GRADING SERVICES, A=GREAT, B=GOOD, C=AVERAGE, D=ACCEPTABLE, E=UNACCEPTABLE X=NO OPINION, 6 votes

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