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GRADE THE GRADING SERVICES, A=GREAT, B=GOOD, C=AVERAGE, D=ACCEPTABLE, E=UNACCEPTABLE X=NO OPINION,

KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
edited August 30, 2025 8:32PM in U.S. Coin Forum

ANACS, CACG, NGC, PCGS, ICG, OLD CAC STICKER, NEW CAC STICKER.
Grade them on 1 Authentication, 2 Attribution accuracy, 3 Consistency, 4 Guaranteed Grade/Authenticity/Variety Attribution" 5 Customer Service, 6 Grading Accuracy, 7 Grader Staff Experience. 8 Market acceptability, 9 Turnaround Example #11, XYZ Grading Co. 1B, 2B, 3A, 4D, 5C, 6X, 7E, 8C. 9.C
GRADE AS FEW OR MANY AS YOU'D LIKE, DON'T WANT YOUR OPINION PUBLIC? DIRECT EM ME, I'LL ADD YOU ANONYMOUSLY AFTER POLLING IS DONE

GRADE THE GRADING SERVICES, A=GREAT, B=GOOD, C=AVERAGE, D=ACCEPTABLE, E=UNACCEPTABLE X=NO OPINION,

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This thread must be timed for the long weekend🫢

    No opinion, but this one shows promise.
    @FlyingAl Grading - A

  • KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    How so? Anything positive to add? Just trying to get some keys tapping over the weekend. J.P.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    can't last long on tuesday

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    plus it's a public pll

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  • KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2025 8:22PM

    PLL?
    POLL?
    There is a way to reply anonymously. I am interested to find out what board members think. I assume most everyone would. Rail or praise.

  • KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    Listen, I am grounded for the next few days with a minor medical condition. I rarely engage on these boards and would like to get a buzz going. If it's not your cup of tea to rap with a guy with 50 years in the biz, move on then. Otherwise hit me with your best shot. J.P.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    can sympathize i've been sick a few days now. about all i can do the past few months has been this due to some kind of brain fog(no covid ever)

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d be around a B for each one…some used to be A but customer service or extended grading times has knocked them back one.

  • KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2025 9:27PM

    All right, I'll get this party started
    . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9.
    ANACS - . A A B A A B A C B
    CACG - . X X X C A B B B B
    NGC - A B B A C B C B B
    PCGS - A B B A C A C A B
    ICG - B B X X B C C D B
    CAC - B B X B B C B B B
    SEGS - B A X C X X B X B
    (ANA)CS A A C B B C B C C

    1 Authentication, 2 Attribution accuracy, 3 Consistency, 4 Guaranteed Grade/Authenticity/Variety Attribution" 5 Customer Service, 6 Grading Accuracy, 7 Grader Staff Experience. 8 Market acceptability, 9 Turnaround.
    As always, my personal experience and continued high opinion and respect to our host.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    I clicked on one only just to see how the poll worked. I’m about coins.

  • KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KOYNGUY said:
    I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

    I appreciate the effort...but it is ludicrously complex and unintelligible.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your poll is too messy, Should have simplified it.

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    SEGS should be E all the way across. They are NO LONGER a feasible or even remotely authentic grading service as of several years ago. Do a google search for "SEGS KDC NJ" and youll find plenty of supporting info.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2025 8:46AM
    CACG

    @KOYNGUY said:
    How so? Anything positive to add? Just trying to get some keys tapping over the weekend. J.P.

    One, it violated the forum rules by asking us to potentially trash a TPG.

    Also "CAC" is not a "grading service".

    But, mostly, it's NOT A POLL!

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @KOYNGUY said:
    I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

    You haven't. You created a poll that allows you to choose a grading service not rate them.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @lermish said:

    @KOYNGUY said:
    I'm not quite sure I've done it correctly either. My first. J.P.

    I appreciate the effort...but it is ludicrously complex and unintelligible.

    I disagree. The "poll" is very simple. It allows you to choose a single grading service. Of course the question is different than the poll...

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2025 6:58AM

    PCGS or NGC only for me! If it has a CAC sticker, that’s a bonus!!

    ANACS-C
    CACG-A, E &X (too strict and overpriced and unfeasible for my NGC registry set).
    NGC-B
    PCGS-B
    ICG-D
    CAC 2007-2022-A
    CAC 2022-DATE-A
    SEIGS-E
    ANA ANACS-C

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2025 6:56AM

    I expect a $100 Visa gift card for taking any poll requiring more than 50 answers.

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 6,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2025 7:20AM

    I predict the results will be skewed by voters misintrepreting the ranking system because of the complexity the instructions. It happens frequently where I work where we sometimes do panel testing of new flavored chewable dietary supplements when someone thinks a 1 is the best and 5 is the worst, but it’s really supposed to be 5 is the best and 1 is the worst and it makes the results skewed.

    My preferences for slabs is PCGS, older is cooler and the coin has already stabilized in terms of any amateur restoration/conservation efforts by the submitter that was done incorrectly (the coin already would have “turned bad” by now if they attempted to doctor it), but newer PCGS that has an appealing Trueview and chip is also cool but then you gotta look more carefully for any “tells” indicating amateur restoration. Next is NGC for me, followed by old ANACS. Any others I would just go by the coin and do my own assessment and ignore the grade, except for CACg. For CACg, I only ever purchased 1 and then I cracked it out and put the coin into an album. I trusted the CACg and also wouldn’t feel the need to over-examine for amateur doctoring, but I’m too heavily invested in PCGS and NGC mentally and for my Registry sets, and I’m comfortable in purchasing even raw coins using my own judgement, so don’t feel much motivation to want to pay extra for the convenience of not having to assess the coin myself (which I believe is CACg’s greatest benefit, as in collectors know CACg is stricter for screening out potential problem coins).

    Mr_Spud

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm glad that you used the teacher grading of our current school systems.

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CAC 2022-DATE

    how r we suposed to do et with da pol

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    But, mostly, it's NOT A POLL!

    it's a poll. opinions sought from multiple people

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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 748 ✭✭✭✭

    The most important thing about the larger TPG’s for me at least is making sure that the coin is genuine. As far as grading goes, I get it that grading is not an exact science, but clearly there is inconsistency with the graders when I read that people send in coins multiple times in order to get it in the “right holder”. Years ago a guy offered me a graded MS-66 1922 Peace dollar. It was graded by one of the big boys. He got upset with me when told him that I’m not interested in the coin after I pointed out the one inch long tooling along the outline of the eagles back. His argument was that it has to be a 66 because that was the grade on the holder. I couldn’t sell it in clear conscience because of it.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,102 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i have a preference for moderns, but it's different than classics. i don't like one for dmpl/pl and can/dcam designations. so, there's that for grading accuracy

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  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KOYNGUY said:
    How so? Anything positive to add? Just trying to get some keys tapping over the weekend. J.P.

    Speaking only for myself, it is not a good poll simply because no objective criteria are given for grading them.

    Different people like different things in a TPG.

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    But, mostly, it's NOT A POLL!

    it's a poll. opinions sought from multiple people

    What i meant is that it's not a forum poll because it's not using the polling option.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    @jmlanzaf posting a coin on the PCGS forums was most certainly NOT on my 2025 bingo card... :lol:

  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    Wrong forum ;)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    Wrong forum ;)

    Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    Wrong forum ;)

    Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

    I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    Wrong forum ;)

    Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

    I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

    Lol. The only "wrong forum" posts i ever comment on are the BST ones.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    Wrong forum ;)

    Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

    I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

    Lol. The only "wrong forum" posts i ever comment on are the BST ones.

    The joke was more about how you can be quick to point out mistakes, which is actually a good thing here. I sorta see you like a direct and rough around the edges version of @MFeld . Sorry if I upset you, that wasn't my intention.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CACG

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TrickleCharge said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PeakRarities said:
    I voted when I saw @jmlanzaf had voted too, so now he can no longer claim that nobody ever agrees with him on the forum.

    Lol.

    I also posted a coin this week. I thought of you when I did it because you say I never do.

    Wrong forum ;)

    Yes. Which is why I rarely post coins on the forum...

    I was just channeling my inner @jmlanzaf . I'll let it slide this time... just don't let it happen again.

    Lol. The only "wrong forum" posts i ever comment on are the BST ones.

    The joke was more about how you can be quick to point out mistakes, which is actually a good thing here. I sorta see you like a direct and rough around the edges version of @MFeld . Sorry if I upset you, that wasn't my intention.

    I'm not upset. I took your comments as being good natured.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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