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New cherry pick - 1950 Proof half UPDATE COINS ARE BACK WITH ME

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 29, 2025 1:40PM in U.S. Coin Forum

It may warrant a Cameo designation.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice, where'd you pick that one up?

    Collector, occasional seller

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the cent.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it's there for CAM.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FlyingAl.

    I have previously made two 1950 Cameo Proof Half dollars (a PF65CAM and a PF64CAM). They are these coins:

    PF65CAM

    PF64CAM (I was very surprised this coin straight graded)

    The 1950 half shown above is one that I am on the fence on (will it or will it not receive a Cameo designation).

    In hand the coin looks much better than in my cell phone photos. The fields are Cameo worthy (deeply mirrored). The frost on the reverse is Cameo worthy (thick and even). The frost on the obverse is not as heavy as the reverse frost. That weakness, plus my previous experience with PCGS grading frosty Proof Franklins causes me to sit on the fence.

    As for the numerical grade for this half dollar, I think it may warrant a PF64 (due to the presence of pesky hairlines).

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the lack of frost on LIBERTY holds it back...but, it's just a pic.

    good luck!

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • 56morgan56morgan Posts: 45 ✭✭✭

    What does Flying Al get if it does not CAM?

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @56morgan said:
    What does Flying Al get if it does not CAM?

    A nice, crisp, imaginary high five.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,164 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks like it may have a few minor hairlines on the reverse.
    Still a nice one. I will guess PR64 CAM.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it. Congrats.
    Jim


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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    FlyingAl.

    Friendly wager accepted.

    On top of me giving you an imaginary high five (in the event you are correct and the half dollar does not receive a Cameo designation) I will also provide additional consideration to you that is not imaginary, specifically this Brilliant 1962 PF67 half dollar:


    Sounds like we have a deal. :smile:

    I'll go ahead and allow you to include the number of coins to to cover your shipping costs as well, so it truly is free images (i.e. if your shipping costs to me and back are $40, you can add 4 more coins in the package for free images).

  • lermishlermish Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:

    I happened to be at the right place and the right time, resulting in me being able to purchase the sets. :)

    For those looking to cherrypick, this is the key! Better to be lucky than good most of the time.

    chopmarkedtradedollars.com

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are better photos of the half and cent. Next week they will be submitted for grading.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TTT.

    Today I sent coins from the three OGP 1950 proof sets to PCGS for grading. I sent 2 half dollars, 1 quarter, 3 dimes, 2 nickels and 2 cents. Looking forward to see grade results and photos.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Best of luck!

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2025 3:27PM

    Based on your results in the past and some of my results recently I will offer an assessment. Also, it is based on the images and presumes you will be dipping it.

    Maywood: PR65+Cam.
    PCGS: PR64.

    Whatever the grade, when the TrueViews show you will be disappointed. Whoever is doing the photos at PCGS has a problem with white balance and seems to persistently flood the lighting unnecessarily. JMHO.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maywood.

    Hope springs eternal.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coins have been received by our host and are in the system :)

    Always a relief to learn that the shipment to our host went smoothly.

  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭

    Good luck on your results!

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully it gets the DCAM to end all DCAMs.

    God comes first in everything I do. I’m dedicated to serving Him with my whole life. Coin collecting is just a hobby—but even in that, I seek to honor Him. ✝️

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭✭✭

    good luck I think it will. Hell just the mirrors make it way better than many 50s

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hoping for good results for you.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TTT.

    My submission of ten of the 1950 proof coins (with 6 other coins) has moved into Encapsulation as of today. :)

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,121 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the Obverse holds it back from a cameo designation. And showing glamour shots to judge a cameo is impossible.
    The reverse of this Franklin held it back from cameo..............

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭

    Nice coin @winesteven

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice

    Investor
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to throw out a guess of PR66+, not sure about Cam or not.
    I'm assuming the photos aren't hiding anything, I can see a little bit of "stuff" going on in the left obverse field, likely from rubbing against the cello pouch. From here it doesn't look like enough to bring it down to 65, but again, I'm assuming the photo is highlighting it, not hiding it.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    TTT.

    My submission of ten of the 1950 proof coins (with 6 other coins) has moved into Encapsulation as of today. :)

    grades posted yet?

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not yet.

    I expect that the 16 coin order will move to QA by Wednesday and that grades may possibly post by this coming Friday.

    It is always a treat to see the grading process coming to the finish. The anticipation of seeing the grades post increases the closer that you get to the finish line, with your mind hoping/speculating/wishing that the coins will meet or exceed your personal assigned grades/designations.

    When the grades finally post and you learn of them you will either be disappointed, satisfied, or ecstatic. I like the ecstatic feeling. :)

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    David Hall used to say ownership frequently adds one or two points. In my case, sometimes 3 points ++++ so not very often I am ecstatic with new grades :(

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ownership can also add a Designation :)

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I may be just as excited as @SanctionII to see how these grade out.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Not yet.

    I expect that the 16 coin order will move to QA by Wednesday and that grades may possibly post by this coming Friday.

    It is always a treat to see the grading process coming to the finish. The anticipation of seeing the grades post increases the closer that you get to the finish line, with your mind hoping/speculating/wishing that the coins will meet or exceed your personal assigned grades/designations.

    When the grades finally post and you learn of them you will either be disappointed, satisfied, or ecstatic. I like the ecstatic feeling. :)

    I had an order in encapsulation for over two weeks recently.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grades popped this evening.
    1 1 57221602 6691 1950 50C PR64 USA
    2 1 57221603 6691 1950 50C PR64 USA
    3 1 57221604 5982 1950 25C PR66 USA
    4 1 57221605 5996 1964 25C PR68 USA
    5 1 57221606 5996 1964 25C PR68 USA
    6 1 57221607 5225 1950 10C PR67 USA
    7 1 57221608 5225 1950 10C PR67 USA
    8 1 57221609 5225 1950 10C PR66 USA
    9 1 57221610 5239 1964 10C PR68 USA
    10 1 57221611 5239 1964 10C PR68 USA
    11 1 57221612 4182 1950 5C PR67 USA
    12 1 57221613 4182 1950 5C PR66 USA
    13 1 57221614 3359 1950 1C, RD PR66RD USA
    14 1 57221615 3359 1950 1C, RD PR65RD USA
    15 1 57221616 3383 1958 1C, RD PR67RD USA
    16 1 57221617 83386 1959 1C, CAM PR66CA USA

  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Grades popped this evening.
    1 1 57221602 6691 1950 50C PR64 USA
    2 1 57221603 6691 1950 50C PR64 USA
    3 1 57221604 5982 1950 25C PR66 USA
    4 1 57221605 5996 1964 25C PR68 USA
    5 1 57221606 5996 1964 25C PR68 USA
    6 1 57221607 5225 1950 10C PR67 USA
    7 1 57221608 5225 1950 10C PR67 USA
    8 1 57221609 5225 1950 10C PR66 USA
    9 1 57221610 5239 1964 10C PR68 USA
    10 1 57221611 5239 1964 10C PR68 USA
    11 1 57221612 4182 1950 5C PR67 USA
    12 1 57221613 4182 1950 5C PR66 USA
    13 1 57221614 3359 1950 1C, RD PR66RD USA
    14 1 57221615 3359 1950 1C, RD PR65RD USA
    15 1 57221616 3383 1958 1C, RD PR67RD USA
    16 1 57221617 83386 1959 1C, CAM PR66CA USA

    aw no cam that sucks

    God comes first in everything I do. I’m dedicated to serving Him with my whole life. Coin collecting is just a hobby—but even in that, I seek to honor Him. ✝️

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One cam, hiding in the very last line. Still sucks :-(

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow not what I expected

    Many happy BST transactions
  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 27, 2025 5:50AM

    @SanctionII, I guess that means I win the kewpie doll with my grade assessment. The only surprise left is the level of your disappointment with the images.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wowza, that's quite the results list. I find it hard to believe there's only one CAM in that group knowing Sanction's eye.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PR64 on that half?... those images must have really been hiding things.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 27, 2025 1:16PM

    Trueview photos of all 16 coins have posted. All 16 photos do not show how the coins look in hand. Oh well................. :s

    1950 half - This photo does show the deeply mirrored fields and hairlines (which I previously mentioned and opined that the grade likely would be a PF64). The reverse frost is CAM worthy. The obverse frost is not as good as the reverse frost. In hand the obverse frost I think is CAM worthy. This coin looks much better in hand and it looks much better than another such coin that our host graded as a PF65CAM (which is shown on CoinFacts; and which is shown below the newly graded half).

    PF65CAM???? :o:o:o:o

    1950 cent - In hand this coin looks CAM worthy and looks much better than is shown in the photo.

    The other coins in this order I think graded properly, though I thought this 1958 cent warrants a CAM (it looks much better in hand) .

    Also, this 1959 Cent that graded PF66CAM is interesting to compare to these two other 1959 proof cents I made.

    PF66CAM

    PF67DCAM

    PF66RD

    P.S. have fun with your coins.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some real wonky grades there.

    Lovely coins, not so much lovely grades!

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seeing these coins kind of makes me think there should be a CL designation for Cameo Like (the way we have PL)

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII, just an observation.

    In another page one thread about CAC someone mentioned that CAC photography is much better than PCGS. Coupled with the fact that GC now has Phil, it seems apparent that there is competition among the major TPG's/auction houses for the best coin photographers. Understanding that, it's hard to compare one TrueView with another and it's becoming evident to me that the only true, accurate assessment/comparison is in-hand.

    I submit far less than I once did and less than you, but my opinion of the imaging at PCGS is the same. That's why I also stated along with my PR64 grade from PCGS that you'd be disappointed by the images. Since the other TPG's and auction houses seem to currently have the better coin photographers it doesn't seem worthwhile to spend money for PCGS imaging. That will work against a seller at auction where the TrueViews can be used.

    I'm considering, as I once did with Mark Goodman, to have my images done by a forum member.

    --- this post has not been approved by @MFeld.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin

  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭

    That is not what I was expecting.

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