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MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

These are quick cell phone shots but I wanted to get your thoughts on this one...
It's raw obviously.
It's clearly a 9 over 8 with 13 stars but that's all I really know.
I think it's original skin and would grade F15... Is there any chance of VF?
I will be sending it to PCGS very soon.
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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the coin makes VF and it looks more original than a high percentage of examples that I’ve examined.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,252 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also think it makes VF but am concerned it will be considered to have been burnished to bring out the high points.

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF i believe, and a fairly original example.

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    World67World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF, cleaned long ago and retoned.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strong coin.
    Original and a 20.
    15 on a really bad day.

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It faces up pretty well and it will probably grade, but It doesn't give me the honest originality impression. It sort of looks like it might have been a cleany white coin that got a bit of a "makeover". Perhaps some soot or ash applied to the surfaces, and burnished on the high points to give it the circ cam look. The high points, splotchy distribution of the "black", and the texture of the surfaces just give me the impression that it got a little bit of a makeover, but overall it presents fairly well and would be a great value coin for a vast number of collectors. I wouldn't be offended to see it in a 20 holder, but I wouldn't put my money on it beaning.

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    Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭✭

    VF, nice coin

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never owned one of this series, but I would feel it to be vf20 and original surfaces. This is a 200+ year old coin and I'm in love. Very nice pickup.
    Jim


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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will definitely get a 20, might even have a shot at 25. Nice coin!

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,578 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It will probably slab but I would doubt that it would CAC.

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    pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2025 3:10PM

    @golden said:
    It will probably slab but I would doubt that it would CAC.

    I'm not an expert but I disagree. I think it probably has a 50/50 chance of CAC'ing. I like the originality of the coin.

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice coin!
    I hope you get top grade for it.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all for the insight. PCGS will get the first shot at grading it next week. It's a keeper if all goes well. I've got my other example listed for sale currently.

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    alefzeroalefzero Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BB-141, 15 star reverse

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alefzero said:
    BB-141, 15 star reverse

    13 star?

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    pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭✭

    Ooh the 15 star reverse, my favorite. If I got back into collecting this would on my bingo card as the kids say.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pcgsregistrycollector said:
    It will definitely get a 20, might even have a shot at 25. Nice coin!

    Nailed it. B)
    I don't love the tru-view photos but I'm happy to have it straight graded. It's a keeper for me.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wonderful, so glad it received the VF-25 grade. I have seen far worse TV's, so I would be satisfied with this one in today's PCGS photography. Congrats.
    Jim


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    TypekatTypekat Posts: 757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin!
    Love the hair detail and that ‘circ cameo’ look.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 21, 2025 6:07PM

    Congrats on the grade but I’m not a fan of the TV.

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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm glad for you that it straight graded. :) I'm not bothered by the TV, but I admit this sort of coin is not in my wheelhouse, so I have no experience with what one should look like.

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