Grade this Poor Boy!! I got this from a cull lot. LOL, for the Low Ball collectors.
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can you tell if it is a 92 or 93?
That is the question. If you can't, it is both ungradeable and not for low ball collectors.
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93 I believe, that's what I was told
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Were you also told it was a proof?
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Why would it be ungradable? Looks like a Poor-1 to me. Also, some low-ball collectors would enjoy owning this coin even without its date.
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Since, in this case, the design includes more than one date, if the date can’t be determined, I don’t think the coin could be (professionally) graded. It would be different if the Columbian half was produced with only one date. But I still think low-ball collectors could enjoy the coin.
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A few weeks ago, someone posted a dateless well-worn Peace Dollar in an ANACS slab. They graded it Poor-01 with ND where the date would have been.
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In that case, if ANACS is consistent, they should grade the Columbian half. I was thinking about PCGS when I answered but I could be wrong.
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Just because a grading service won't slab a coin doesn't mean it can't be graded.
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That depends upon the context of the discussion and how you define “graded”. When posters on a coin grading company’s website refer to a coin being “graded” it’s typically with respect to a coin receiving either a straight or detail grade (not a grade and refusal to encapsulate the coin).
But sure, taken literally, a grading company (or for that matter, anyone else) could “grade” a coin (edited) without encapsulating it.
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In your last sentence, did you mean "without"? Of course, I'm taking the term "grading" literally since it has a specific meaning that has nothing to do with slabbing. Coins were graded long before the slabbing companies came along and raw coins are still being graded.
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I did mean “without” and have corrected that - thank you.
When the term “grading” is used literally, as you stated, it need not have anything to do with slabbing. But when used on a grading company's forum and with respect to “Low Ball” collectors, for many of us, encapsulation is part of the “grading” discussion.
I believe that many low-ball collectors require that the coins be professionally graded in order for them to count.😉
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I'm not a lowball collector and I think it's pretty cool
Collector, occasional seller
Thanks! I snagged it out of a cull lot.
I was so happy to see it!!
I wish we can determine the year appropriately.
Unable to read the date...
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Basal State is the lowest grade on the Sheldon scale, correct?
It circulated 50 plus years I would wager.
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The asking price is only $400 for a no date not graded Columbian. lol😝😝😝
Basal state coins are not collected by lowball collectors. They want PO1 coins that are graded. Even if its cool looking now its worth melt.
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I can't decide if that is more or less ridiculous than the $50 "cullish" peace dollar or $60 holed Peace dollar.
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With those price tags, you should change your name to coinmuseum
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The Columbian is reasonable in the context of those two other beauties!
I thought these hardly circulated at all. Doubt pocket circulation would cause that much wear. Artificial wear IMHO.
There are some lowball collectors that collect these and out them in type set books. They like picking them up for near melt.
Here is link to an eBay ANACS (ND) Morgan
https://ebay.com/itm/335248353952?_skw=morgan+lowball+no+date&itmmeta=01K33WTDE3ZPRX18CGRR3TJ0TT&hash=item4e0e5beaa0:g:cp8AAOSw2qZlxDtq&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1fZn%2BFVVBkPbklQRn0C6%2BxAUQXC%2FgwQH4fq53sDrs9IpF%2FJ4mejwOp6qkl9v7nfDGE4oJ8FqqD1LMZExfYsSZA6I7nB%2BEeYxZcxS%2FhwOVJWwJiiYS9wPPpW13J%2BAXnj5p0ePfnkcEfNIBKfPl7iTJgT4Xj84YgxFEuDP8JBWYuVPP9HxcKJ0lxRlUuqMwAEbcXm5gCHDqSHnFo30KnVLn97htYQ5wMcUvbBGQk9u4DudIBJICIgjdsQtKBLcjnELx8%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5rX6fyYZg
Looks natural to me. Probably a pocket piece.
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Buying at melt is almost the definition of not being of collector interest.
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I carried a Morgan XF pocket piece that had hairlines for over 6 months and nothing. I have a peace dollar on my car key chain for over 30 years, and my Dad for over 10, and it went from AU+ to VF despite every day usage. How do folks get these pocket pieces worn down without waiting many, many years.
There is a difference between carrying a coin in your pocket for many years and a coin that circulated. A 'pocket-piece' will sometimes take on a smooth almost polished looks with hairlines while a heavily circulated coin will take on a more natural appearance, such as the OP's Columbian half.
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It takes many years. I have a friend who has carried an Ike since the early 70s. It looks like that Columbian.
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