Questionable Color
pmh1nic
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First, I will take zero offense if the consensus is the coins are questionable color. The point of the thread is trying to understand the reasons some find the color on the coins questionable. Is it the colors, how the colors are distributed or some other indicator? There are folks on the forums that know the science behind the how and why toning occurs. I’m not one of them. I’ve had both of these coins in the exact same condition for 25 years so whatever occurred happened before I got them.
Anyway, here are the best pictures I could get from different angles. Let me know what you think and why.
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dunno
my question is: how do they have that much wear and that much color?
how were they stored when you got them?
From those images, both coins look like they've been messed with, and I'm not sure with what.
The toning on the quarter seems reasonable.
The pale blue on the dime obverse seems a bit questionable..
A coin can tone on its 2nd or third skin. Silver remains reactive even after being messed with.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
ok,but are they QC?
It's hard to say for sure but they look retoned over an old dip or cleaning. Hence "questionable" and not strictly "AT" or "environmental damage" etc
that pic is like what we need but it is slightly out of focus and overlit
and i guess there's a new question: have they been polished/cleaned?
Not by me and apologize for the poor photos.
They were purchased from what was then a very active dealer in NY (Martin Rubenstein Coins in Bay Shore). They had been around for decades but since closed shop a few years ago. If the name sounds familiar the Coin Guy on YouTube mentions them as the starting place for him buying coins back in the 1970's. I purchased the coins from Rubenstein's sometime in the 1990's as you see them today.
i have my opinions but am inexperienced with stuff that's not pr70dcam first strike.
i'll withhold them and see if others agree
AT IMO
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They look like they probably were cleaned/polished a long time ago and then they retoned, some look more polished underneath the toning than others though. I think a lot of coins that old were cleaned back when that was fashionable and then the bare metal tones quicker after that. Much better looking retoned then when you see them freshly cleaned or polished and blast white.
Mr_Spud
Any clues as to how the AT was accomplished?
My understanding is some colors are not conducive to say storage in an album or the distribution of colors don't follow a natural pattern.
saying "how the AT was accomplished" implies intent and effort. it is also possible that it was cleaned and simply recolored while it sat
This is true, especially if they are in an album or a Kraft envelope.
Agree with the general consensus so far, no intentional AT, just cleaning and natural secondary/tertiary toning, particularly on the dime. The cleaning is the real issue, not the retoning which actually helps with the eye appeal/value. Hard to tell on the quarter with the photos provided , could potentially be market acceptable.
Cleaned and recolored to hide cleaning.
Old cleaning. Unintentional secondary toning that probably isn't market acceptable.
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