Edited for comment: Several bids with several days remaining. Just because it doesn't make sense doesn't mean it won't make $.
Slabbed 70. Remains to be seen what the price is on those. Depends on the yield of 70s is. If it's 2 out of 3 and the 69s are selling for less than 2700, could be tough to make any money.
Edited for comment: Several bids with several days remaining. Just because it doesn't make sense doesn't mean it won't make $.
Slabbed 70. Remains to be seen what the price is on those. Depends on the yield of 70s is. If it's 2 out of 3 and the 69s are selling for less than 2700, could be tough to make any money.
Here are a few that sold Buy It Now.
FDOI is a different beast.
Not a lot of money to be made at $3300. That's under $3000 net before you include slab costs. And if you have to submit 3 to get 2 70s, you're going to lose money on the 69. And that's at the peak of the pricing...
Not a lot of money to be made at $3300. That's under $3000 net before you include slab costs. And if you have to submit 3 to get 2 70s, you're going to lose money on the 69. And that's at the peak of the pricing...
Not a lot of money to be made at $3300. That's under $3000 net before you include slab costs. And if you have to submit 3 to get 2 70s, you're going to lose money on the 69. And that's at the peak of the pricing...
I agree!
Nonetheless, price notwithstanding, I really like the design of this coin.
Edited for comment: Several bids with several days remaining. Just because it doesn't make sense doesn't mean it won't make $.
Slabbed 70. Remains to be seen what the price is on those. Depends on the yield of 70s is. If it's 2 out of 3 and the 69s are selling for less than 2700, could be tough to make any money.
Here are a few that sold Buy It Now.
FDOI is a different beast.
Have to call BS on those sales . Coins not even shipped yet and seller claims he got COAs #1 and #2 and they both graded 70.
Read the fine print. Full details say COA NUMBERS MAY VARY.
Why are they allowed to lie in the listing then disclaim in the details. Like Magic Mike
Says “ the internet is like the Wild West”
🫢
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
Have to call BS on those sales . Coins not even shipped yet and seller claims he got COAs #1 and #2 and they both graded 70.
Read the fine print. Full details say COA NUMBERS MAY VARY.
Why are they allowed to lie in the listing then disclaim in the details. Like Magic Mike
Says “ the internet is like the Wild West”
🫢
Title says Presale on the middle one, this is allowed via eBay.
From the U.S. Mint:
ABPP participants can have their orders shipped up to five days in advance of the United States Mint’s official on-sale date to allow time for receipt and grading in advance of the normal ordering process.
I can only assume they send in 10 to get graded in hopes of some getting a 70 and they give the buyer's these. Someone who is a dealer may correct me.
Have to call BS on those sales . Coins not even shipped yet and seller claims he got COAs #1 and #2 and they both graded 70.
Read the fine print. Full details say COA NUMBERS MAY VARY.
Why are they allowed to lie in the listing then disclaim in the details. Like Magic Mike
Says “ the internet is like the Wild West”
🫢
Title says Presale on the middle one, this is allowed via eBay.
From the U.S. Mint:
ABPP participants can have their orders shipped up to five days in advance of the United States Mint’s official on-sale date to allow time for receipt and grading in advance of the normal ordering process.
I can only assume they send in 10 to get graded in hopes of some getting a 70 and they give the buyer's these. Someone who is a dealer may correct me.
They presell based on an educated guess on the yield of 70s. But I doubt those are ABPP sellers. They would usually slab them as "Advanced Release"
If you like the gold but placed an order, why not cancel and just place a new order when the price is lower due to lower gold spot price?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@HalfDime said:
It look like they added more inventory to the 1 ounce medal, it is now at over 62k left. It is probably 100k total.
The nine most popular Dc characters:
Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
The Flash (usually Barry Allen or Wally West)
Green Lantern (commonly Hal Jordan or John Stewart)
Aquaman
Joker
Harley Quinn
Nightwing (Dick Grayson)
Green lantern and Nightwing will be a tough sell down the road.
🤣. Tertiary characters down the road? Superman is a tough sell today!
They are either going to rethink mintages, pricing and their mutual goals for the program, or the whole thing is going to be a huge bust. At the volumes today, and what they will certainly be in the future if nothing changes on the mintage and/or pricing front, it might not make economic sense from the Mint's perspective to continue, assuming they have an ability to escape.
If they can manage the production wisely it does not have to be a bust. They can do a better job of cultivating higher demand versus supply. They are in control of the fate of the program, emphasize the demand side of the equation not supply. The numbers are miniscule anyway concerning gov budgets. It does not move the needle, so keep people hungry for product to solidify values, reputation, future interest.
@NJCoin said:
They are either going to rethink mintages, pricing and their mutual goals for the program, or the whole thing is going to be a huge bust.
Next year we get flooded with many products due to 250th anniversary, and the next three comics will probably be released late in the year with very low mintages. Next year could be another 2008 event.
2008 is the year the mint flooded the market with so many collector products that sales for individual products crashed. Fractional gold buffalo, fractional platinum eagles, etc.
They adjusted 2009 to mostly one ounce products as a result.
I’m getting the feeling this superhero series is going to play out like the first spouse gold coins. High mintages for the first few, then trail off into very small mintages. Barb Bush had a max mintage of 2000 ms and 3000 pf iirc and that couldn’t sell out.
Rising gold spot price bolstered the spouse coins where I believe all of them (raw or 70s or whatever) are worth exactly the same now.
Spot gold is going to have to rise again considerably to make the superhero coins winners.
@grote15 said:
If you like the gold but placed an order, why not cancel and just place a new order when the price is lower due to lower gold spot price?
Are you sure you don't just get charged the price at release?
Are you sure the Mint will allow you to reorder a canceled order?
@fathom said:
If they can manage the production wisely it does not have to be a bust. They can do a better job of cultivating higher demand versus supply. They are in control of the fate of the program, emphasize the demand side of the equation not supply. The numbers are miniscule anyway concerning gov budgets. It does not move the needle, so keep people hungry for product to solidify values, reputation, future interest.
Actually, no. They have a partner with whom they signed a licensing agreement. Based on 10K gold, using that pricing grid, 25K2.5 ounce silver, and unlimited 1 ounce silver.
Lower mintages mean lower licensing fees. Would have to be renegotiated. As would lower pricing.
DC might not care about anything, other than getting its share of whatever sells, since it has no manufacturing or marketing expenses here. Doubtful the Mint would want to give DC a higher share of the premium on a lower mintage, so I really can't wait to see what happens going forward.
I was always surprised at how aggressive they were being with the gold pricing, but honestly thought 25K silver medals at $275 would be winners. It might just be that the US Mint missed the boat by 15 years on superheroes, and that the moment has passed. In which case there might not be anything they can do to get people excited over 9 sets of coins and medals over 3 years at the premiums DC and the Mint expect to make the program worth their while.
Actually they can tell DC how they would like to market, and convince them this is the best way to move forward and DC can accept that scenario and have a relationship or walk away.
Are you guys sure gold price will go lower not higher in next year? it might go 4K next year. If you buy this gold coin just for $100 profit in short term then go cancel your order as you like. However, if you like the coin and can hold for a longer time then forget about the short term up and down.
@fathom said:
Actually they can tell DC how they would like to market, and convince them this is the best way to move forward and DC can accept that scenario and have a relationship or walk away.
Exactly! It might be worth noting, though, that DC is not in the coin business, and the Mint likely approached them with the brilliant idea, given how successful similar programs have been with foreign mints, rather than the other way around.
They likely got DC interested with the monster licensing fee they promised. If that's not going to materialize, is DC going to be interested in diluting the value of their intellectual property for a fraction of what was offered and accepted?
Or will they walk away? Or will they stick the Mint with a steaming pile of you know what? TBD, but my bet is on DC not caring how the coins do in the secondary market. Or if they sell at all. They probably only care about getting their share of the $1,000 premium per coin they were promised.
Lowering that to help the Mint sell more would likely be of no interest to them, although that WOULD be the way to go to save the program. But their money is in movies, comic books, and whatever else they sell. Not gold coins.
@jt88 said:
Are you guys sure gold price will go lower not higher in next year? it might go 4K next year. If you buy this gold coin just for $100 profit in short term then go cancel your order as you like. However, if you like the coin and can hold for a longer time then forget about the short term up and down.
Next year? They are talking about this past week.
NO ONE should be buying this coin to profit from the move in the price of gold. Gold would have to hit $5400 to break even.
you buy it for 4710, then you get hit for 4710 when it ships
Bingo.
Upon ordering, your CC gets a "pending" charge to make sure the CC is legit. Then the charge drops off, then comes back just before it's shipped.
@MsMorrisine said:
i haven't ordered from the mint in a long time, but cancellations happened before you hung up the phone. it's that fast
I ordered this one, knowing gold will hit $5,420 before my youngest grandchild reaches retirement age in 65 years. I’ll be cancelled and expired much sooner. But maybe it can be traded for a loaf of bread,by then.
you buy it for 4710, then you get hit for 4710 when it ships
Bingo.
Upon ordering, your CC gets a "pending" charge to make sure the CC is legit. Then the charge drops off, then comes back just before it's shipped.
Idk. I'm not sure whether that proves anything. If you buy gas, they ping the card for $75 and then charge the actual gas purchase.
Seems to me the Mint should have considered the issue of shifting prices. They don't care if gold goes up or down because they hedge their holdings. However, they have to know that a sliding bullion price risks cancelation and reordering. Unless the block reordering, of course.
There's been so few of these pre-orders that I don't really know.
Subscriptions charge the price at release, but that is a little different because they ask you to confirm the purchase 7-10 days before the purchase.
you buy it for 4710, then you get hit for 4710 when it ships
Bingo.
Upon ordering, your CC gets a "pending" charge to make sure the CC is legit. Then the charge drops off, then comes back just before it's shipped.
Idk. I'm not sure whether that proves anything. If you buy gas, they ping the card for $75 and then charge the actual gas purchase.
Seems to me the Mint should have considered the issue of shifting prices. They don't care if gold goes up or down because they hedge their holdings. However, they have to know that a sliding bullion price risks cancelation and reordering. Unless the block reordering, of course.
There's been so few of these pre-orders that I don't really know.
Subscriptions charge the price at release, but that is a little different because they ask you to confirm the purchase 7-10 days before the purchase.
I get your point, but in the end - the confirmation email that's sent after the initial order was placed is what sets the price in stone, pre-order/re-order or not. My CC still shows the full amount as pending. But, it hasn't been 3 business days yet. I'll check back in a few days and see if something changes. That's right, I ordered one because it's such a Hot coin lol... Anyway...
The L&B Gold pre-sale was released in early Feb of '24 when spot was at $2034. They didn't ship until mid May - 3 months later when spot was at $2417, $400 more. Despite the rise in spot and the Pricing Grid increases, the coin remained the same price as it was on day one as stated on the confirmation email...
And if you cancel and it takes 5 days to process and gold goes up to $3500 by the time you reorder?
Does anyone know whether the price charged is the price at the date of shipping on a pre-order?
Yes. The price charged is the price on the invoice when you check out. Not when they ship. This is usually not an issue because they usually ship within a day of accepting an order.
Also, keep in mind, they only reprice once per week. Not every day based on the ups and downs in the spot market. It's based on a formula that looks at the average over the past week, where the price was the last time they set it, and where it is on the day before the reset.
Also, with this monstrosity, it isn't going to be a 1:1 adjustment. The price of the coin will go up or down $40 (on a half ounce coin) for every $50 move up or down in the spot price of gold. They are literally marking up every $50 move in gold by $30.
@grote15 said:
If you like the gold but placed an order, why not cancel and just place a new order when the price is lower due to lower gold spot price?
Are you sure you don't just get charged the price at release?
Are you sure the Mint will allow you to reorder a canceled order?
Yes. The price you are charged is the price you order at. You can play the game as many times as you want until they get tired and cut you off. Which is unlikely on something that costs them nothing since the order is still in "processing."
This is on them for taking pre-orders on something they reprice weekly. Not sure why their pants were on fire to open orders two months before they were ready to go (likely due to wanting to space out the release calendar, which is kind of pointless if they aren't ready to ship), but this is the result.
Also, the usual scenario for items like this is that the item quickly sells out, which is what I am sure they anticipated here. In which case, cancellations chasing $40 or $80 wouldn't be a problem if people actually wanted to keep the item. Which they would in the case of a sell out.
No, this is an exception to the general rule. A wildly overpriced product, not close to a sell out, subject to weekly price adjustments for two months. It's going to result in a lot of cancellations. Likely with not nearly as many reorders as they would like.
@GRANDAM said:
Does anyone know what the licensing fee will be that DC will get for these coins?
No one has seen the contract, but it is likely quite high, given that the silver one ounce with no mintage limit sells for $135 when ASEs with a mintage limit sell for $91. Also when you consider that the pricing grid for the gold is unlike anything the Mint employs for any other gold product, with the already significant base premium being marked up by 60% for every $50 move in the spot price of gold. Resulting in a $2000 mark up on $3400 gold.
The $1,000 difference between that and what they usually charge likely represents what DC is taking ($500 per half ounce coin at $3400 gold) . Same with the $45 dollar difference between a one ounce Superman medal and a one ounce burnished ASE.
@GRANDAM said:
Well, then hopefully the Gold Sacagawea Dollar will be a lower price than Superman,
It will be. There is a grid that they publish, and you can tell exactly what it will be. It will be in line with everything else they sell that doesn't have a DC licensing fee attached to it. Around $500 less than Superman.
@grote15 said:
If you like the gold but placed an order, why not cancel and just place a new order when the price is lower due to lower gold spot price?
Are you sure you don't just get charged the price at release?
Are you sure the Mint will allow you to reorder a canceled order?
You are charged the price point at which you place the order. Cancellations are instant over the phone and there's nothing preventing you from placing a new order later on (if you wish to do so). .
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Canceled my gold & silver. I don't see myself buying any in this series. I wanted to get one of the silver ones just because it's a cool subject and a neat design, but it's just too high over spot.
My dad would have loved these. He was born in 1931 and was a prolific collector of comic books and baseball cards since he was very young. He begged my grandmother to leave his collection alone when he went off during the Korean War. She threw them all out thinking that a grown man did not need such things. He is like me and kept stuff meticulous. I can only imagine what his collection would be worth today - not to mention the sentimental value. Ugh.
@Raufus said:
Canceled my gold & silver. I don't see myself buying any in this series. I wanted to get one of the silver ones just because it's a cool subject and a neat design, but it's just too high over spot.
My dad would have loved these. He was born in 1931 and was a prolific collector of comic books and baseball cards since he was very young. He begged my grandmother to leave his collection alone when he went off during the Korean War. She threw them all out thinking that a grown man did not need such things. He is like me and kept stuff meticulous. I can only imagine what his collection would be worth today - not to mention the sentimental value. Ugh.
Same here. I really thought the silver was going to be a winner at only 25K, and I got excited for a minute when it looked like the Mint might be short striking the gold.
At this point, you don't need to be a genius to see that these are just overpriced dogs, notwithstanding the attractive design and undoubtedly popular subject matter. They are expensive for what they are, and the public simply has no interest.
Lot of hype last year when the program was announced, hitting a new demographic and opening the floodgates to a whole bunch of other commercial endeavors for the Mint. The Nice Gang privys were a commercial success, although at a totally different price point.
Let's see if the new Mint director, coming from the mass market numismatic world, can do something with this. Because, clearly the public has no interest in $5400 per ounce gold, or $110 per ounce silver featuring the Man of Steel.
It will be interesting to see how low some of the final numbers are for some of the gold in this series, especially if gold stays so high. I wonder if way down-the-line, whatever is the lowest 1 or 2 will see substantial appreciation because the subject matter is very popular and some final numbers could be really low.
I had a nice conversation with Porsche at the US Mint canceling my order for the Gold Superman. I've decided to wait till August 21 and purchase the American Liberty 2025 High Relief Gold Coin. My grand daughter likes sunflowers and, ultimately, all my coins and medals will be left to her.
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Here are a few that sold Buy It Now.
FDOI is a different beast.
Not a lot of money to be made at $3300. That's under $3000 net before you include slab costs. And if you have to submit 3 to get 2 70s, you're going to lose money on the 69. And that's at the peak of the pricing...
I agree!
Nonetheless, price notwithstanding, I really like the design of this coin.
Have to call BS on those sales . Coins not even shipped yet and seller claims he got COAs #1 and #2 and they both graded 70.
Read the fine print. Full details say COA NUMBERS MAY VARY.
Why are they allowed to lie in the listing then disclaim in the details. Like Magic Mike
Says “ the internet is like the Wild West”
🫢
Title says Presale on the middle one, this is allowed via eBay.
From the U.S. Mint:
ABPP participants can have their orders shipped up to five days in advance of the United States Mint’s official on-sale date to allow time for receipt and grading in advance of the normal ordering process.
I can only assume they send in 10 to get graded in hopes of some getting a 70 and they give the buyer's these. Someone who is a dealer may correct me.
They presell based on an educated guess on the yield of 70s. But I doubt those are ABPP sellers. They would usually slab them as "Advanced Release"
If you like the gold but placed an order, why not cancel and just place a new order when the price is lower due to lower gold spot price?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Dipset512 is correct about the middle one. I assumed most people would realize this without expanding my post to boring proportion. 😎
🤣. Tertiary characters down the road? Superman is a tough sell today!
They are either going to rethink mintages, pricing and their mutual goals for the program, or the whole thing is going to be a huge bust. At the volumes today, and what they will certainly be in the future if nothing changes on the mintage and/or pricing front, it might not make economic sense from the Mint's perspective to continue, assuming they have an ability to escape.
If they can manage the production wisely it does not have to be a bust. They can do a better job of cultivating higher demand versus supply. They are in control of the fate of the program, emphasize the demand side of the equation not supply. The numbers are miniscule anyway concerning gov budgets. It does not move the needle, so keep people hungry for product to solidify values, reputation, future interest.
Next year we get flooded with many products due to 250th anniversary, and the next three comics will probably be released late in the year with very low mintages. Next year could be another 2008 event.
unfamiliar. elaborate?
2008 is the year the mint flooded the market with so many collector products that sales for individual products crashed. Fractional gold buffalo, fractional platinum eagles, etc.
They adjusted 2009 to mostly one ounce products as a result.
I’m getting the feeling this superhero series is going to play out like the first spouse gold coins. High mintages for the first few, then trail off into very small mintages. Barb Bush had a max mintage of 2000 ms and 3000 pf iirc and that couldn’t sell out.
Rising gold spot price bolstered the spouse coins where I believe all of them (raw or 70s or whatever) are worth exactly the same now.
Spot gold is going to have to rise again considerably to make the superhero coins winners.
Are you sure you don't just get charged the price at release?
Are you sure the Mint will allow you to reorder a canceled order?
Actually, no. They have a partner with whom they signed a licensing agreement. Based on 10K gold, using that pricing grid, 25K2.5 ounce silver, and unlimited 1 ounce silver.
Lower mintages mean lower licensing fees. Would have to be renegotiated. As would lower pricing.
DC might not care about anything, other than getting its share of whatever sells, since it has no manufacturing or marketing expenses here. Doubtful the Mint would want to give DC a higher share of the premium on a lower mintage, so I really can't wait to see what happens going forward.
I was always surprised at how aggressive they were being with the gold pricing, but honestly thought 25K silver medals at $275 would be winners. It might just be that the US Mint missed the boat by 15 years on superheroes, and that the moment has passed. In which case there might not be anything they can do to get people excited over 9 sets of coins and medals over 3 years at the premiums DC and the Mint expect to make the program worth their while.
Actually they can tell DC how they would like to market, and convince them this is the best way to move forward and DC can accept that scenario and have a relationship or walk away.
Are you guys sure gold price will go lower not higher in next year? it might go 4K next year. If you buy this gold coin just for $100 profit in short term then go cancel your order as you like. However, if you like the coin and can hold for a longer time then forget about the short term up and down.
Exactly! It might be worth noting, though, that DC is not in the coin business, and the Mint likely approached them with the brilliant idea, given how successful similar programs have been with foreign mints, rather than the other way around.
They likely got DC interested with the monster licensing fee they promised. If that's not going to materialize, is DC going to be interested in diluting the value of their intellectual property for a fraction of what was offered and accepted?
Or will they walk away? Or will they stick the Mint with a steaming pile of you know what? TBD, but my bet is on DC not caring how the coins do in the secondary market. Or if they sell at all. They probably only care about getting their share of the $1,000 premium per coin they were promised.
Lowering that to help the Mint sell more would likely be of no interest to them, although that WOULD be the way to go to save the program. But their money is in movies, comic books, and whatever else they sell. Not gold coins.
Next year? They are talking about this past week.
NO ONE should be buying this coin to profit from the move in the price of gold. Gold would have to hit $5400 to break even.
gold 3332.25 kitco
looks like room to cancel for right now
And if you cancel and it takes 5 days to process and gold goes up to $3500 by the time you reorder?
Does anyone know whether the price charged is the price at the date of shipping on a pre-order?
you buy it for 4710, then you get hit for 4710 when it ships
i haven't ordered from the mint in a long time, but cancellations happened before you hung up the phone. it's that fast
Does anyone know what the licensing fee will be that DC will get for these coins?
@MsMorrisine said:
Bingo.
Upon ordering, your CC gets a "pending" charge to make sure the CC is legit. Then the charge drops off, then comes back just before it's shipped.
I ordered this one, knowing gold will hit $5,420 before my youngest grandchild reaches retirement age in 65 years. I’ll be cancelled and expired much sooner. But maybe it can be traded for a loaf of bread,by then.
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Idk. I'm not sure whether that proves anything. If you buy gas, they ping the card for $75 and then charge the actual gas purchase.
Seems to me the Mint should have considered the issue of shifting prices. They don't care if gold goes up or down because they hedge their holdings. However, they have to know that a sliding bullion price risks cancelation and reordering. Unless the block reordering, of course.
There's been so few of these pre-orders that I don't really know.
Subscriptions charge the price at release, but that is a little different because they ask you to confirm the purchase 7-10 days before the purchase.
I get your point, but in the end - the confirmation email that's sent after the initial order was placed is what sets the price in stone, pre-order/re-order or not. My CC still shows the full amount as pending. But, it hasn't been 3 business days yet. I'll check back in a few days and see if something changes. That's right, I ordered one because it's such a Hot coin lol... Anyway...
The L&B Gold pre-sale was released in early Feb of '24 when spot was at $2034. They didn't ship until mid May - 3 months later when spot was at $2417, $400 more. Despite the rise in spot and the Pricing Grid increases, the coin remained the same price as it was on day one as stated on the confirmation email...
They hit your card for full amount ? They hit mine for $5.95 which is the postage I think.
Canceled my order for the Superman Slug.
.....First Strike with Flag.
Might buy a graded one ouncer....
Do you have to call the Mint to cancel?
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I did, took about 3 minutes.
Yes. The price charged is the price on the invoice when you check out. Not when they ship. This is usually not an issue because they usually ship within a day of accepting an order.
Also, keep in mind, they only reprice once per week. Not every day based on the ups and downs in the spot market. It's based on a formula that looks at the average over the past week, where the price was the last time they set it, and where it is on the day before the reset.
Also, with this monstrosity, it isn't going to be a 1:1 adjustment. The price of the coin will go up or down $40 (on a half ounce coin) for every $50 move up or down in the spot price of gold. They are literally marking up every $50 move in gold by $30.
Yes. The price you are charged is the price you order at. You can play the game as many times as you want until they get tired and cut you off. Which is unlikely on something that costs them nothing since the order is still in "processing."
This is on them for taking pre-orders on something they reprice weekly. Not sure why their pants were on fire to open orders two months before they were ready to go (likely due to wanting to space out the release calendar, which is kind of pointless if they aren't ready to ship), but this is the result.
Also, the usual scenario for items like this is that the item quickly sells out, which is what I am sure they anticipated here. In which case, cancellations chasing $40 or $80 wouldn't be a problem if people actually wanted to keep the item. Which they would in the case of a sell out.
No, this is an exception to the general rule. A wildly overpriced product, not close to a sell out, subject to weekly price adjustments for two months. It's going to result in a lot of cancellations. Likely with not nearly as many reorders as they would like.
No one has seen the contract, but it is likely quite high, given that the silver one ounce with no mintage limit sells for $135 when ASEs with a mintage limit sell for $91. Also when you consider that the pricing grid for the gold is unlike anything the Mint employs for any other gold product, with the already significant base premium being marked up by 60% for every $50 move in the spot price of gold. Resulting in a $2000 mark up on $3400 gold.
The $1,000 difference between that and what they usually charge likely represents what DC is taking ($500 per half ounce coin at $3400 gold) . Same with the $45 dollar difference between a one ounce Superman medal and a one ounce burnished ASE.
Yes. You can't cancel anything online with them.
Well, then hopefully the Gold Sacagawea Dollar will be a lower price than Superman,
It is... but still expensive.
It will be. There is a grid that they publish, and you can tell exactly what it will be. It will be in line with everything else they sell that doesn't have a DC licensing fee attached to it. Around $500 less than Superman.
You are charged the price point at which you place the order. Cancellations are instant over the phone and there's nothing preventing you from placing a new order later on (if you wish to do so). .
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Canceled my gold & silver. I don't see myself buying any in this series. I wanted to get one of the silver ones just because it's a cool subject and a neat design, but it's just too high over spot.
My dad would have loved these. He was born in 1931 and was a prolific collector of comic books and baseball cards since he was very young. He begged my grandmother to leave his collection alone when he went off during the Korean War. She threw them all out thinking that a grown man did not need such things. He is like me and kept stuff meticulous. I can only imagine what his collection would be worth today - not to mention the sentimental value. Ugh.
Same here. I really thought the silver was going to be a winner at only 25K, and I got excited for a minute when it looked like the Mint might be short striking the gold.
At this point, you don't need to be a genius to see that these are just overpriced dogs, notwithstanding the attractive design and undoubtedly popular subject matter. They are expensive for what they are, and the public simply has no interest.
Lot of hype last year when the program was announced, hitting a new demographic and opening the floodgates to a whole bunch of other commercial endeavors for the Mint. The Nice Gang privys were a commercial success, although at a totally different price point.
Let's see if the new Mint director, coming from the mass market numismatic world, can do something with this. Because, clearly the public has no interest in $5400 per ounce gold, or $110 per ounce silver featuring the Man of Steel.
It will be interesting to see how low some of the final numbers are for some of the gold in this series, especially if gold stays so high. I wonder if way down-the-line, whatever is the lowest 1 or 2 will see substantial appreciation because the subject matter is very popular and some final numbers could be really low.
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The expected in-stock date is Fri Sep 19 2025.
That's almost two months for cancellations to come.
I’m going down with the ship.
I had a nice conversation with Porsche at the US Mint canceling my order for the Gold Superman. I've decided to wait till August 21 and purchase the American Liberty 2025 High Relief Gold Coin. My grand daughter likes sunflowers and, ultimately, all my coins and medals will be left to her.