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A genuine (vintage) Clark Gruber & Co. item for less than $5.

dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 22, 2025 10:02PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Yes, they are out there. I found and bought this on the internet recently. The total cost with shipping was less than $5.
However, a realistic value on something like this is not very high, perhaps about $30.

The stamp is in pretty nice condition and undamaged. Too bad it is not still affixed to the original document, whatever that was.
Often, the worst enemy of stamps is stamp collectors.

First Issue Revenue stamp, 5-cent Inland Exchange, Scott # R27c.
Round cancel "Clark Gruber & Co. - AUG 4 1863".

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  • pcgsregistrycollectorpcgsregistrycollector Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gimme Gimme

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey, that's pretty cool.
    Nice find !

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice pickup!

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool. Reminds me of how I had a Panama-Pacific Exposition postcard (complete with a 1915 airplane in the sky!), since I couldn't afford one of the octagonal fifties.


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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Way cool to see

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool!
    What business were they doing in August of 1863, having sold the Mint to the Feds? Assay Office?

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  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 311 ✭✭✭

    Nice

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool! As i’m sure you know there are philatelists that collect only cancellations, i find this part of the hobby way more interesting than stamps themselves.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A quick peek discloses that CG operated as a bank after they sold the mint then dissolved in 1864. (One of their bank notes would be a nice adjunct,). Perhaps a philatelist could chime in.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just found that a CG note sold last month on GC for $187k. Yikes.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    are you sure you should not post your stamp and related questions at the Stamp forum?
    this is mainly a numismatic forum. coins etc....

    The history of Clark Gruber is of great interest to numismatists. Do your homework.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    are you sure you should not post your stamp and related questions at the Stamp forum?
    this is mainly a numismatic forum. coins etc....

    Really.

    I think you are nitpicking. This is tangentially coin related and there might be three people on the stamp forum every year.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    are you sure you should not post your stamp and related questions at the Stamp forum?
    this is mainly a numismatic forum. coins etc....

    You're kidding, right?

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool!

  • Coins3675Coins3675 Posts: 311 ✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    are you sure you should not post your stamp and related questions at the Stamp forum?
    this is mainly a numismatic forum. coins etc....

    This is a numismatic related item

  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry people...
    I had NO idea who this Clark Gruber person is!!!
    I thouht the OP was posting about a stamp..
    sorry for not knowing.

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  • Rc5280Rc5280 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭

    @YQQ said:
    Sorry people...
    I had NO idea who this Clark Gruber person is!!!
    I thouht the OP was posting about a stamp..
    sorry for not knowing.

    You did nothing wrong.

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,834 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The stamp has a limited value- the cancellation which looks nearly complete and reasonably clear and centered on the stamp creates value. I am not certain what that value is but it could be more than $30.

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  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can someone explain why Clark Gruber has cancelled a stamp? In 1863 they appear to have been operating as a bank. Did firms pre-cancel back then?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oldabeintx said:
    Can someone explain why Clark Gruber has cancelled a stamp? In 1863 they appear to have been operating as a bank. Did firms pre-cancel back then?

    It's a revenue stamp that was required to be placed on certain documents by the businesses themselves. They had to "cancel" the stamp once affixed. Many businesses would have just pen-canceled the stamp but CG obviously had a rubber stamp made.

    The revenue stamps were a form of taxation by the government.

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good eye! Very cool

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @oldabeintx said:
    Can someone explain why Clark Gruber has cancelled a stamp? In 1863 they appear to have been operating as a bank. Did firms pre-cancel back then?

    It's a revenue stamp that was required to be placed on certain documents by the businesses themselves. They had to "cancel" the stamp once affixed. Many businesses would have just pen-canceled the stamp but CG obviously had a rubber stamp made.

    The revenue stamps were a form of taxation by the government.

    Thank you. Learned something today.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's great to have associated pieces to go with the coins. Really brings them to life. Thanks for sharing

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