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First Spouse Gold OGP question
Raufus
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Hi Folks,
Hi , accidentally mixed up the outer sleeves for some of the First Spouse coins.
Does anyone know of a resource that lists the product codes for these? For example, Jefferson's Liberty proof is X02.
I figured this information would be easy to find. However, it is surprisingly difficult.
Thanks for any information!
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i do google searches like this: first spouse gold "x02"
then hunt for evidence
if the sleeves are off and the boxes are out, remember not only do the sleeve and coas need to match, the wooden boxes changed one or two times and you need to get the right box. you might match boxes by process of elimination or by boxes of the same year
This is a longer method, but you can search eBay listings to see if sellers mention the code.
There were some threads here in the past that might offer some general guidance, like this:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/989005/us-mint-product-item-codes-updated-sep-2019
give some product codes and i can help you search
at least 2 times for at least 3 different boxes
Hi MsM and U1,
Thanks for your replies!
I'd spent about an hour w/every conceivable search to include ebay before posting my question in case I was missing something obvious. This included "images" of the coins, OGP for the coins, sleeves, etc.
The labels with the codes are on the top side of the sleeves. They don't appear in many photos.
I was very surprised that searches like "what was the US Mint product code for xxx gold first spouse" didn't yield anything (nor did a ton of other searches).
I'm only looking for those for the liberties.
What I've found so far, that I think is correct is:
Jefferson Proof: X02, Unc: X06
Jackson Proof: X21
Van Buren: X24 but not sure if that's proof or unc
I want to confirm that the above is correct and want to find out about Buchanan as well.
I think that the Buch. Proof is X66
I think that the Buch Unc is X67
I think that van Buren Proof is X26
I think that Van Buren Unc is X24
I think that Jackson Unc is X22
Thanks so much for any help and or conformation.
I would have been much more careful to not mix them up had I known how hard that they'd be to match.
Thanks!!
before i start, i tried my own search and the info is urprisingly limited
one place that was always faithful was the coin newswires - coinnews ? coinworld numismatic news
they don't show up in searches anymore. perhaps someone with subscriptions can search
now
on to me hunting
Andrew Jackson's Liberty (X21) - Proof - https://libertycoin.com/2008-w-us-first-spouse-gold-1-2-oz-proof-10-andrew-jacksons-liberty-us-fs-g10-08-w-ajl-pf/
Andrew Jackson's Liberty (X22) - Unc - https://libertycoin.com/2008-w-us-first-spouse-gold-1-2-oz-bu-10-andrew-jacksons-liberty-us-fs-g10-08-w-ajl-bu/
Jefferson's Liberty (X02) - Proof - https://libertycoin.com/2007-w-us-first-spouse-gold-1-2-oz-proof-10-thomas-jeffersons-liberty-us-fs-g10-07-w-tjl-pf/
Jefferson's Liberty (X06) - Unc - https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/102647-suspended-vs-on-hold
2007 was the first year of the series and the first and only year of the wooden box & plastic capsule combination
the capsule is essentially exactly like a direct fit capsule. starting in 2008 and after the capsule changed to a different type where the sidewalls are thick, the height is much higher and the lid has a raised ridge on the top. the 2nd type capsule is far from the sleek 2007 version.
as the capsule is a different diameter and thickness, the 2007 boxes have a shallow recess for the smaller diameter capsule, the 2008 and later capsules will not fit in it
Thanks so much!
Unfortunately, none of these (or other pics) show the white sticker on the sleeve with the stock number.
the stock number is in the text above the pictures
Product codes for Spouse coins from 2015 or later can be found on the usmint website https://www.usmint.gov/about/production-sales-figures/cumulative-sales. Jq1-Jq8 for 2015 coins
"2007 was the first year of the series and the first and only year of the wooden box & plastic capsule combination
the capsule is essentially exactly like a direct fit capsule. starting in 2008 and after the capsule changed to a different type where the sidewalls are thick, the height is much higher and the lid has a raised ridge on the top. the 2nd type capsule is far from the sleek 2007 version.
as the capsule is a different diameter and thickness, the 2007 boxes have a shallow recess for the smaller diameter capsule, the 2008 and later capsules will not fit in it"
...
They also made this 4 coin box in 2007 and discontinued it along with the capsule size. The sleek '07 capsule was too slippery though. It slipped out of your fingers and the box too easily. That's why they changed it I think.
I made several Liberty Subsets(PF & MS) from various raw and slab crack outs and sold them on the bay. The set looks good with all 4 coins inside. I swapped the '08 & '10 Lib capsules with the smaller '07 capsules so everything fit in the box. It was a fun project while the Libs were 'hot'...Still have a PF & MS set, and a few of those boxes.
The '08 Jackson below, I put it in an '07 capsule. The Cleveland coin & capsule is there for scale.
An optical illusion makes the Cleveland coin look larger than the Jackson coin, but it's not, it's lower...
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Van Buren's Liberty (X23) - Proof - wayback machine
Van Buren's Liberty (X24) - Unc - wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20081217003812/http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&identifier=8500
Buchanan's Liberty (X66) - Proof - wayback machine
Buchanan's Liberty (X67) - Unc - wayback machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20101001114512/http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&categoryId=46002&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=20738&top_category=20738
the stock numbers are at the top of each post
they are in bold
i found the stock numbers for all 4 Proof Liberties and all 4 Unc Liberties
i'll wake up late tomorrow
pm me if you need more help
Amazing!!!
Thank u!!!!
Its that 3 character (1 letter. 2 number) code that i couldn't find.
I didn't know about the Way Back Machine!
I've got to learn about that.
When I Googled US Mint product codes or stock numbers it never came up w the 3 character codes on the stickers on the sleeves that u found.
Thank u SO much!!!
Thank u!!!!