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1884 and 1885 Three cent nickels -Proof or circulation strike?

rec78rec78 Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 3, 2025 10:03PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Hello, I have these two 3 cent nickels an 1884 and 1885 are these proof or circuation strike coins and how did you determine what you think they are? Please comment below.









I have had these for many years (about 40). I would like to know the die markers if any for determining a proof. Thanks in advance for your comments. Bob.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2025 10:18PM

    Virtually impossible to tell when they are new and perfect, so there is no hope on circs.

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  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 245 ✭✭✭

    Each of your coins are from dies that were used to strike both proof and circulation coins. There is no 100% agreed upon way to tell the difference.

    Thankfully PCGS has figured out the secret to these... which is to assume less risk by just calling them proofs and still collect grading fees.

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are they graded XF?
    Slab shots?

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 596 ✭✭✭

    I guess you disagree with the grading service, right?

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TrickleCharge said:
    Each of your coins are from dies that were used to strike both proof and circulation coins. There is no 100% agreed upon way to tell the difference.

    Thankfully PCGS has figured out the secret to these... which is to assume less risk by just calling them proofs and still collect grading fees.

    Ok, Thanks for pointing this out. I was confused but your answer explains everything.

    @4Redisin said:
    I guess you disagree with the grading service, right?

    Think that they are both circulation strikes but TrickleCharge explained the reason.


    The price difference between Proof and Circulation strike is enormous. I will most likely break them out and send them to NGC or ANACS.
    Thanks for everyone's comments. I am more knowledgeable on this issue now.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do what you gotta do, but you can save yourself some money by reading my comment above.

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If both types were struck from the same dies, how were they differentiated at the time they were struck? Were the proofs struck on different dates from the circulation strikes? Was the striking pressure different for each type? Or were they all struck in the same manner, with some sold to collectors and some released to circulation?

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  • 4Redisin4Redisin Posts: 596 ✭✭✭

    I should think that Proof is the default grade for these coins in any condition at any TPGS unless the coin SCREAMS OUT "I AM A MINT STATE STRIKE". Therefore, don't waste your money. They are what they are.

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Do what you gotta do, but you can save yourself some money by reading my comment above.

    I did read it and respect it. But i still may gamble and send it to ANACS -It may be worth it.

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