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1976 Topps Baseball complete set in PSA 9 condition.
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I just noticed there's a complete 1976 Topps Baseball set in PSA 9 condition for sale on EBAY. The asking price is 100K. The price seems high but I have no idea what something like this is worth. Does anyone have an opinion on what the value is?
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You could go 2 ways with this: First, you could research the value of each of the 660 cards included in the set to get a sensible idea of the true cumulative value. I'm assuming it's less than 100K. However, as described in the auction, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, which is hard to argue. Assembling a set of this magnitude in PSA 9 will take years to complete, as it did for the seller. You need to have a perspective on that fact. You can spend the 100K if only for the privilege of boasting that you have the entire set in MINT condition. And it would only take a moment to hit the Bid button.
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Wow.
I'd LOVE to have that set, but will never pay that much or spend the time and effort to get it any other way either. Just an awesome achievement with what is probably my all-time favorite set.
These days I'm not sure how long it would take to build that because getting 9s back on personal subs would be impossible.
Good comments and since I don't have an extra 100K lying around I won't be adding up 660 + cards value. I was out of the hobby for over two decades and have no idea if sets like this come up for sale that much and if they do, is the cost usually more than the value of every card or less?
It would be nice to see the set put up for auction to see what the value really is as I seriously doubt the set will sell for 100K. The set will sit there on EBAY for ample months and the true value will remain a mystery.
Its that wonderful world of no or next to no comps so hard to say. I'm assuming we have not had a lot of 1976 Topps complete sets all in PSA 9 sold in the last couple years. Even if we had, I'd say hard to comp because this one has a nicer Brett this one a nicer Ryan this one a nicer Jackson. That Brett might be a 7 or 8 today so weigh that in.
Just takes one human being with a lot of interest and disposable cash to blow all the projections and estimates out of the water.
I would think that an Auction House would be a better venue than eBay for this set, or any, with 660 cards all graded. The seller could probably negotiate a low or no seller premium.
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Makes sense. I'm thinking his 100K price is insane and he is only willing to sell it if someone wants to pay a crazy price. If it was put up for auction he would have to sell it and it would probably go for at least 40% lower than what he wants for it.
In other words the set is really not for sale unless someone wants to pay a crazy price for it.
I couldn't find the set listed..
Too bad the set registries are sort of over with the pricing and grading standards. The seller missed the window on crazy set prices.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186943821484
Here ya go.
To those interested, the set includes the Traded Series, so add that in. They also have an option for Best Offer.
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I wonder how many of the cards are off center, have printing defects, and would not receive a 9 if submitted today? A serious buyer would have to review all 660 cards plus the traded cards one by one to come up with an offer.
If pre 2022 grading i reckon no less than 50% would range from 2-8s today. Submitter dependant if course.
Yeah if you are going to buy the card not the flip then you need to review each card .That said most who have a 100k to fork over on a non blue chip item are those for whom 100k means nothing.
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Just saw a listing on Heritage's next big auction for the #7 Registry 1984 Donruss set and it's estimated to pull $40K.
The $100K for this might not be too far off.
It's a subtle attraction to be able to fork over such price for a set of cards. Personally, I'd rather do the process of collecting one-by-one with thorough analysis of each. But, I've aged out of that part of the hobby and it's aged out of me with elevated pricing. I remember busting several vending boxes from the '76T issue some 20 years ago, and even then I knew how tough assembling this could be. The mint cards wren't exactly pouring out, but there were plenty to justify doing it and grading the best pulls. Again, this seems rather distant now.
So, it doesn't seem out of the question for someone who REALLY wants it to pay an inflated price so they can own something rare.
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Is the 84 set all PSA 10's?
I was just looking at that today too. Remember many years ago people were so foaming at the mouth over that set. The Greg Gagne the Diamond King variations with the Steel vs. Steele spelling that could send the price through the roof. Chris Chambliss was like 500 and then I got one and it sold for about 75. 😂
But then think there was such excitement and so much unopened product that most cards eventually had a POP of 40 to 100. Think 4 Sharp Corners must have had a new case delivered to them every day.
I did love that set but sold off a lot of it recently for not much money. It may not get to 40K. A lot of my 10s went for about 12 to 15 dollars.
For 100K I'd much rather have the early 70s sets with the top cards in PSA 7 and 60s sets with the top cards in PSA 6 (to match the decade) and then 50s sets with the top cards in, take a guess
That has been my dream my whole adult live to be able to do those 60s Topps sets if my ship were to ever somehow, someway, someday come in.
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VCP average for the base 1976 set in all PSA 9 is $51,708.14 based on average price. The traded set has a VCP avg of $1,549.01. Since I'm down to needing 7 upgrades to complete the base set in PSA 9+, I won't be bidding. I do think the set is worth a premium due to the difficulty in building sets these days due to scarcity of new submissions. I don't know that 2x is warranted.
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Quite the accomplishment, congrats! Commons or HOFs needed of the 7 upgrades?
Thanks mintonlypls. The Torre and Brett are the HOFers that need upgraded from 8 to 9. Not sure I want to spend the $10k it takes to get a Brett PSA 9 these days.
Sure, a PSA 9 set is cool....but unless one has money to blow on "Stuff" why not spend a fraction of the cost of this set and find a raw mint set that is just as beautiful, wont require you to build a storage locker for and is likely easier to sell when the time comes. I just dont get spending this kind of money on a baseball card set.
Looks like almost all 10s. Sweet set of cards there for sure. For those of us at a certain age, that set was THE thing to have in the 80s. I have some but I never really got into trying to complete it.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-cards/sets/1984-donruss-baseball-psa-graded-complete-master-set-689-5-current-finest-on-psa-registry-/a/50078-80909.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515
I agree.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Except that there are certain cards within the set which almost demand locating a PSA 9 example because a comparative raw example is very difficult to find. I could circle the planet and have virtually no chance at finding a card #35 Tony Oliva in mint condition. They all must be hiding in a cave.
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You can also include a Joe Torre. There's only 21 PSA 9's out there.
I saw this cello pack ( wink wink ) listed on ebay, I am about to pull the trigger but I am waiting to see if the price drops below 24,000 $$ before backing up the brinks truck..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/177207620933?_skw=cello+pack&itmmeta=01JY51NHQ7KV17BX6BVXKPJDC9&hash=item294265b545:g:y8YAAOSwAwRg2rfH&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1efTqSl/3cZA/KEWHYG+cqs1Q1I9Q745e5kFnRbZDAn0jcCsKdfAkqcF977ZoUOdbxeGrGxc+7FjRcL8o5wHUWsVZMw0qqfaiWWkATdF9L2P9RvIEYBqqOqV1m+kINwAwN/ACZf1b5rC5gtLlAKrsVZ8VY1FMTve2yh1jzp+i6pNuwobG+qA+1dkwErBRkqENUgWtzBLIfWG0MiHRDZ1XZV33fMscDm57XfIh89UZqpIXQjznUzeGpSCyxiOxDBe70G/EdRkX9kZytVRAHuzL9kF2uAUCSoefmXUOFlE8zHWg==|tkp:Bk9SR9ic1qHxZQ
Wow what a complete scam.
I tried to email him and he's not taking emails. Big surprise.
Along with the 25K Seaver cello, the "Also Viewed" has cellos of
Ryan on front and Brett on front for much less. Are these cellos legit??
Baseball Fun Packs are simply reassembled garbage disguised as something unique. The reality is there are enough dumb folks out there to fulfill the need for these shady sellers to continue offering this garbage on eBay. They're even worse than the bogus Christmas racks. Shame.
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No.
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And many of those 9s are awful...such as...
Hey, there could be a Pete Rose RC in there.
What's the giveaway?
Several years ago I opened a vending and got (what I thought) a nice Oliva. Unfortunately, I sat on it and didn't send it in for grading until about a year ago. I think it came back a 6! Super bummer.
I looked at the Brett pack with Schmidt(?) on the back. Is that the one you saw? It's rewrapped. Lousy job. Pretty easy to tell from how the cellophane looks. The folds are miserable and it looks like someone resealed it with a hot iron. The Ryan pack which I think you referred to appears to have some type of leakage inside which has stained the card. The seller claims that the stains are on the wrapper, which is damaged and broken at the top corners. The reverse looks resealed, but I'm not 100% certain about that. I wouldn't go near it anyways.
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Don't feel too bad. All my vending pulls were genuine duds.
I've looked at some of the 9's sold in the recent years, and they'd all be a 6 today. The Oliva is a true bear. I'd love to see a recently graded gem, but I doubt that'll happen.
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Is the Oliva in true mint condition harder to find than the Torre?
I see on VCP history that 2019 was a good year to get a PSA 9 Torre. Only 2 others have sold since then. I think they're equally difficult, and realistically almost unattainable now.
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Seems like a bargain compared to this one:
https://ebay.us/m/ZXrfIs
Wow, there's a name I haven't seen in a while. There are alot of entertaining threads on these forums involving bubblebathgirl.
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I have noticed bubblebathgirl has a lot of nice cards for sale. What's the story with his business? Why are the prices requested so crazy? There's been a 79 PSA 9 Eckersley for sale for well over a year at an insane price. Recent comps have sold for under 1K and he continues to ask $3,500. In fact he has had ample cards for sale for over a year at 4-5X what they are worth.
Any information about him would be appreciated.
For many years as far back as I remember in this forum, the BBG phenomenon was a popular topic of interest. It's been this person's intent to dominate the 1979 Topps Baseball set, for whatever reason. Some of his cards do sell at their inflated prices or those negotiated. Looks like a dozen have sold on eBay since the end of May. I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about the comps. He's sitting on a goldmine, or in this instance, a bathtub full of riches.
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I get the business model. Listings are free and they can be up forever. If he can sell some at twice what others do then that means he doesn't have to make as many sales. Sometimes collectors want what they want when they want and are willing to pay up.
I know lots of folks that do this in other businesses with their rates.
To me, the Torre is definitely tougher in PSA 9. Most are plagued by print defects like the Brett 2nd year card. Here's a PSA 9 Oliva I own. I've gotten a few 9 Oliva's in my submissions over the years. PSA 8 is the best I ever got on the Torre.
Nice card. I see a lot of fish eyes (not sure if that's the correct term) on 1975 and 1976 Topps baseball cards like the one on your card. If submitted today would PSA penalize a card for having a fish eye? Do you think the Oliva example above would receive a 9 if submitted today?
Thanks. It was graded in early 2024. They usually don't downgrade a card for a fisheye.
I thought they did downgrade for the fisheye. I could of sworn it was talked about on here a while back.
Of all the 48 HOFer base cards, counting the 10 ATAS, I honestly think Torre is the hardest to find in a nice clean and nicely centered 8 or 9.
Here is my Oliva 8.. I would kill for a Torre 8 that looked like this.
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
Looks like a 10