I was asked for a report of counterfeits for the evening on eBay...
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We'll see if anything gets done with these:
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are all of those in counterfeit holders?
it would have been easy to collect a mass of them from the many forumites.
spreadsheet software has the sorting function. it is possible to remove duplicate entries. i would hope a long list would get their attention
Let me know when you have it done.
Mine was a 15 minute search and I got restless...
Here's a spreadsheet anyone can add to:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-XyySvdIc97bBVphxvXROySvkihet5QzMMGFHhwD-yg/edit?usp=sharing
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@burfle23, @PeakRarities, @MsMorrisine - you and others on the front line have my deep respect. I started a thread eBay Fakes (and what can I do about them?) and saw more negativity than I expected to see. Ranging from, "why do you have to do anything about it?" to "It's an impossible problem to solve, and if you're going to solve it you have to solve it for all sellers, not just eBay." (Dear god it hurt my head to just type that.)
Looking for trends, I searched the forum to get a count of specific threads dedicated to the problem. See chart below. The distribution didn't tell me anything, but I have a theory that it speaks more to how we are responding to (or ignoring) the issue at any given point in time than it speaks to the actual progression and prevalence of bad numismatic metal on eBay.
If there are any Excel chores that arise from the sheet linked above I'd be happy to help out.
Sadly, as I mentioned in my other thread, I was told a local Secret Service agent would contact me. Yesterday passed without that contact happening. I'm going to give that another day and then pester them some more.
My (infrequently updated) hobby website Groovycoins.com
https://www.ebay.com/itm/376216727602 you may have this one already
https://www.ebay.com/itm/376216790782 you may have this one already
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_blrs=recall_filtering&_ssn=hd.collectibles&store_cat=48789159018&store_name=hdcollectiblesstore&_oac=1 not in holders but seller admits they are copy coins
do you want the plated bullion?
Who asked?
http://ProofCollection.Net
https://www.ebay.com/str/fengrongxian?_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l170197
counterfeits in counterfeit holders
https://www.ebay.com/itm/388567209735
https://www.ebay.com/itm/388567407014
https://www.ebay.com/itm/388567339848
https://www.ebay.com/itm/177181833528
What is the dead give away, the missing PCGS in the lower right hand corner?
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Authentic:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/127045501251
Counterfeit:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/388567209735
you can also read burfle's articles
Thanks for your time, level of patience and effort that you have made with this.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Thanks; I had not seen a 1915-S Barber or 1927-S Peace until now. Having a hard time seeing the "S" on the Barber though
Congrats everyone, these are gone or ended. Great job.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
I still want to know who asked for the report.
http://ProofCollection.Net
eBay responded to this report. @burfle23 posted it in a related thread. I took the liberty of re-posting here for convenience.
Source: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13922681/#Comment_13922681
I made the links in the spreadsheet clickable. For those that don't correctly resolve in column B, I added a Column C formula to create a working hyperlink (redundant in most cases when Column B has a well formed URL).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-XyySvdIc97bBVphxvXROySvkihet5QzMMGFHhwD-yg/edit?usp=sharing
My (infrequently updated) hobby website Groovycoins.com
The current state of the forum:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
i know you've been rejected, but these are from this morning
counterfeit chinese coins & a few between the sellers use the same pics
https://www.ebay.com/itm/226808364821 They Describe It as a Replica - stolen picture - that's all I got
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326632022214 counterfeit holder, no nfc logo, and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/226808552255 counterfeit holder and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196623120460 counterfeit (barcode doesn't scan right), china coin is comical and They Describe It as a Replica
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196634442913 same bogus picture as the one 2 above - 226808552255 - counterfeit holder and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196634512233 counterfeit holder and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/197417929059 counterfeit holder and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/197185980200 NGC - counterfeit poorly printed label and coin doesn't match one on cert page
https://www.ebay.com/itm/197417992172 counterfeit holder, no nfc logo, and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/197415352368 counterfeit holder and coin does not match trueview
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196634396037 They Describe It as a Replica - that's all I got
Yep, eBay removed all 4; they made a special note on this one:
But, but, but that can’t be. According to others eBay never does anything and just ignores the problem. 😂😂
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Yes, I hear that they don't care because they are selfish. I also hear that I suck because I don't think it's such an easy problem to solve.
4 out of all listed in this forum is not a movement; maybe I did find a better channel to report these 4...
@burfle23 said: 4 out of all listed in this forum is not a movement; maybe I did find a better channel to report these 4
Do you want to be right or do you want to be honest?? My hunch, given all the evidence here, is that members would rather be right.
If we're honest with each other we can agree that counterfeits on eBay are a problem, but they have always been a problem.
Many members at this forum seem to think they are the last line of defense against this problem, that if they fail to stop eBay from listing such items altogether the Hobby will be adversely affected and in danger. Members here have always found counterfeits on eBay, they have always reported them and sometimes they are removed.
Thinking you can save us and the Hobby is a fool's errand. It is a huge problem with a complex solution and apparently no entity interested in solving it. Posting these things here, awareness of the problem, is probably the best any of us can hope for. I enjoy the entertainment value of it all but past that it doesn't affect me in the least, nor does it affect my involvement in the Hobby.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I have been updating PeakRarities 's internet list; items with no comment are still active as of 6-17.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-XyySvdIc97bBVphxvXROySvkihet5QzMMGFHhwD-yg/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Authentic can be seen but Counterfeit cannot be seen. The cop work must be working at least some of the time.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.