@Rc5280 said:
The low-ish product limit of 90k(OGP) is enticing, and it's working. A sellout is coming imo.
However, the page below is interesting, and concerning? The reported 61k were sold before they were released to the public on 5/20.
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On the page below(an fyi), two minutes into the release on drop day, they had approx 28,000 OGP coins remaining in stock. The math is getting interesting on this one.
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I wouldn't get too deep into conspiracy theories here. The 5/18 report reflects subscriptions, Advance Release sales, and whatever they allow the Big Boys to commit to in advance that are not designated Advance Release. Very consistent with 28K being available at release, or 2 minutes after.
Also not inconsistent with 6K being available a week after release. If they only sold 20K in a week, there is no reason to think a ton of them sold in the first 2 minutes after release.
Subscriptions worked. 90K is the right number. So they didn't get slammed at release, most who wanted them got them in advance, and the few that remain will sell through because they don't look like dogs. Win-win-win for all involved.
I wouldn't get too deep into conspiracy theories here. The 5/18 report reflects subscriptions, Advance Release sales, and whatever they allow the Big Boys to commit to in advance that are not designated Advance Release. Very consistent with 28K being available at release, or 2 minutes after.
Also not inconsistent with 6K being available a week after release. If they only sold 20K in a week, there is no reason to think a ton of them sold in the first 2 minutes after release.
Subscriptions worked. 90K is the right number. So they didn't get slammed at release, most who wanted them got them in advance, and the few that remain will sell through because they don't look like dogs. Win-win-win for all involved.
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I'm not a Mint conspiracy guy, nor a Mint basher, it's not worth it to me.
But the 61k sales report prior to drop-day just seemed high to this outsider looking in.
The std OGP product limit of 90k is a good thing, and refreshing.
However the bulk 40 trays for the AP's are not a part of that OGP 90k limit. There is no mintage limit on these coins.
There are less than 18,000 of the OGP product left.
And just 67 bulk 40 trays(no OGP packaging) that are left(2680 coins).
My calculations have the overall mintage(so far) at 105,000 pcs.
I think they should stop there.
Don't read too much into those numbers. I was tracking the 2025 Kennedy Half P-D Roll Sets. Looked like they were headed for sell out and suddenly the inventory increased by about 4000. To trust that number I just posted, you'd have to be sure that the mint make the full quantity available in their system.
Don't read too much into those numbers. I was tracking the 2025 Kennedy Half P-D Roll Sets. Looked like they were headed for sell out and suddenly the inventory increased by about 4000. To trust that number I just posted, you'd have to be sure that the mint make the full quantity available in their system.
Same here on the Kennedy's, I saw that. I didn't grab a screenshot on drop day, so perhaps they didn't put the full quantity down, as you suggest.
The FL $1 Space Shuttle Rolls had run out a few days ago, and haven't returned. I think they're gone. The Bags are not far behind with 80% gone.
Thanks for the .gov/demandware link several weeks back, much appreciated.
Looking back to the 2018-W, the price was $46.95.(silver spot was $13.97 to $17.52)
I would believe the 2025-W should go dark very soon, even at $91 a pop.(silver spot currently $33.12.)
Looking back to the 2018-W, the price was $46.95.(silver spot was $13.97 to $17.52)
I would believe the 2025-W should go dark very soon, even at $91 a pop.(silver spot currently $33.12.)
Adding the issue price at release for the subject years: 2019 - $46.95 2020 - $54.00 2021 - $67.00 2022 - $67.00 2023 - $76.00 2024 - $76.00 2025 - $91.00
Looking back to the 2018-W, the price was $46.95.(silver spot was $13.97 to $17.52)
I would believe the 2025-W should go dark very soon, even at $91 a pop.(silver spot currently $33.12.)
@Goldbully said:
Does anyone know how many of these coins are still available from the Mint?
Mint shows 21,596.
24 hours later Mint shows 21,157.....that's a whopping 439 ASE sold.
I might have to change my 'sold out' horizon to the end of summer if this slow sale trend continues. 🥱
Nah. At that pace, with all the new exciting stuff coming out, starting next week with the Army privy, these are not going to sell out at all. The only good news is that the mintage will be around 70K, not 90K. Plus whatever they sold in the 40 coin trays, which I believe does not go into the count.
24 hours later Mint shows 21,157.....that's a whopping 439 ASE sold.
I might have to change my 'sold out' horizon to the end of summer if this slow sale trend continues. 🥱
Nah. At that pace, with all the new exciting stuff coming out, starting next week with the Army privy, these are not going to sell out at all. The only good news is that the mintage will be around 70K, not 90K. Plus whatever they sold in the 40 coin trays, which I believe does not go into the count.
Yes, sir.
The bulk trays get a separate item number (i.e., 25EG040 (bulk trays) vs. 25EG (individually packaged)).
As of the 5/26/25 report, the Mint had sold 308 trays (i.e., 12,320 coins in bulk packaging).
Looks like another overpriced, overproduced widget that will drift towards melt value over the years. I originally was set to suck up 2 of them but decided against it. Glad I held off. I can see PCGS First Strike 70’s selling for less than $100 in the coming months or years.
24 hours later Mint shows 21,157.....that's a whopping 439 ASE sold.
I might have to change my 'sold out' horizon to the end of summer if this slow sale trend continues. 🥱
Nah. At that pace, with all the new exciting stuff coming out, starting next week with the Army privy, these are not going to sell out at all. The only good news is that the mintage will be around 70K, not 90K. Plus whatever they sold in the 40 coin trays, which I believe does not go into the count.
Yes, sir.
The bulk trays get a separate item number (i.e., 25EG040 (bulk trays) vs. 25EG (individually packaged)).
As of the 5/26/25 report, the Mint had sold 308 trays (i.e., 12,320 coins in bulk packaging).
Nah. At that pace, with all the new exciting stuff coming out, starting next week with the Army privy, these are not going to sell out at all.
Yep, Superman, Batman, & Wonder Woman all match wits against the Mighty Minters!! Then there's that Army privy...and the Morgan/Peace dollar RP set....
Nah. At that pace, with all the new exciting stuff coming out, starting next week with the Army privy, these are not going to sell out at all.
Yep, Superman, Batman, & Wonder Woman all match wits against the Mighty Minters!! Then there's that Army privy...and the Morgan/Peace dollar RP set....
Totally agree! Although the superheroes are not exactly what I was thinking of. The military proofs, with limits of 100K on something they never did before, with far lower proof mintages than they usually have, are what I was thinking of.
75K 75th anniversary ASEs, are what I was thinking of. Those go for between $300-400 right now. 100K at $105 will be sell outs and winners. Probably taking some attention away from 90K burnished ASEs that they make every year.
@Goldbully said:
Does anyone know how many of these coins are still available from the Mint?
Mint shows 21,596.
24 hours later Mint shows 21,157.....that's a whopping 439 ASE sold.
I might have to change my 'sold out' horizon to the end of summer if this slow sale trend continues. 🥱
11 hours later the new countdown......20,198.
959 ASE's sold.......that's a little more encouraging. 😎
edited to add: New Mint total....20,385......187 returns?? 😂
I'm sorry, but it's over. 25% of the total mintage remaining 2 weeks after the on sale date indicates it's not selling out. Not when the remaining number is in the tens of thousands, and when lots of other interesting, similar items will be coming down the pike, starting next week.
I always liked the burnished ASEs, and had high hopes for this one after they placed a reasonable mintage limit on it, and after seeing interest in the privy bullion versions. But having the bulk trays not count towards the mintage limit was a bit of a head fake that places actual total sales closer to the announced 90K mintage limit.
Given they still have 20K single coins available for sale, plus a theoretically unlimited number in 40 coin trays, these are done. They won't be selling 1K per week for the next 20 weeks. They will be sitting this time next year, just like the 2024s are today.
It is what it is. Time to move our attention to the Army privy proof next week.
Perhaps these sales will be a barometer for the Mint as far as supply versus demand at the price level. Looks like a mintage of 60k would have the flippers salivating....
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
Perhaps these sales will be a barometer for the Mint as far as supply versus demand at the price level. Looks like a mintage of 60k would have the flippers salivating....
Depends on the coin. For the burnished ASE, apparently not, since, even at that level, demand would barely exceed supply. OTOH, the military proofs look like winners at 100K.
It seems like people are interested in new product, like the FH and the bullion ASEs with privys, and are tired of the same old same old, like the burnished ASE. TBD, but I do have a feeling the Army privy is going to be a quick sell out, even with a higher mintage, higher price, and lower HHL as compared to the burnished ASE.
@NJCoin was right, too many other attractive Mint bullion issues on the horizon to consider this coin.
There could be nothing planned for the rest of the year and it still wouldn't sell out. It's not a popular offering. It takes them 2 or 3 years to sell out.
@NJCoin was right, too many other attractive Mint bullion issues on the horizon to consider this coin.
There could be nothing planned for the rest of the year and it still wouldn't sell out. It's not a popular offering. It takes them 2 or 3 years to sell out.
Not so sure about that, since 90K is around the number they sold last year, and is significantly below historic sales.
You might be right, because interest might simply be waning. But 500K bullion coins with a privy sold out, and retail at a premium, in 2025, so it's not crazy to have expected them to be able to sell 90K burnished ASEs at less than double the price the bullion privys go for.
That said, they did not sell 90K. It's not unreasonable to conclude that the issuance of 4, count 'em 4, proof ASEs with privys in the coming few months might have had something to do with that.
Very nice, and selling very, very well.
They've been on sale for one week, not bad.
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Those numbers seems very impressive, but is this similar to sales from past ASE Unc(burnished) issues?
Looking forward to some modern experts chiming in.....oh, @NJCoin.
Yes, it is similar. Interest has been waning in recent years, but final sales have never been this low. Also, they never had a 90K cap on them before. With only 6K to go, they will likely sell out at some point. I'm a little surprised they didn't get snapped up at noon last Wednesday, but it is what it is.
As others have noted, the stars this year are going to be the armed services privy proofs. 100K for a proof with a one-time only unique privy. HHL of 3. Get ready.
At $91 a pop + shipping I pass, esp. since 2022, 2023 and 2024 versions are still available.
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I wouldn't get too deep into conspiracy theories here. The 5/18 report reflects subscriptions, Advance Release sales, and whatever they allow the Big Boys to commit to in advance that are not designated Advance Release. Very consistent with 28K being available at release, or 2 minutes after.
Also not inconsistent with 6K being available a week after release. If they only sold 20K in a week, there is no reason to think a ton of them sold in the first 2 minutes after release.
Subscriptions worked. 90K is the right number. So they didn't get slammed at release, most who wanted them got them in advance, and the few that remain will sell through because they don't look like dogs. Win-win-win for all involved.
@NJCoin
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I'm not a Mint conspiracy guy, nor a Mint basher, it's not worth it to me.
But the 61k sales report prior to drop-day just seemed high to this outsider looking in.
The std OGP product limit of 90k is a good thing, and refreshing.
However the bulk 40 trays for the AP's are not a part of that OGP 90k limit. There is no mintage limit on these coins.
There are less than 18,000 of the OGP product left.
And just 67 bulk 40 trays(no OGP packaging) that are left(2680 coins).
My calculations have the overall mintage(so far) at 105,000 pcs.
I think they should stop there.
17833 available right now.
Don't read too much into those numbers. I was tracking the 2025 Kennedy Half P-D Roll Sets. Looked like they were headed for sell out and suddenly the inventory increased by about 4000. To trust that number I just posted, you'd have to be sure that the mint make the full quantity available in their system.
http://ProofCollection.Net
Same here on the Kennedy's, I saw that. I didn't grab a screenshot on drop day, so perhaps they didn't put the full quantity down, as you suggest.
The FL $1 Space Shuttle Rolls had run out a few days ago, and haven't returned. I think they're gone. The Bags are not far behind with 80% gone.
Thanks for the .gov/demandware link several weeks back, much appreciated.
Can someone confirm this or add to it?
American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin
Year 2020 and earlier - none available
2021 - PL: 175,000 - none available
2022 - PL: 160,000 - available(limited quantity)
2023 - PL: None - available
2024 - PL: None - available
2025 - PL: 90,000 - available
Looking back to the 2018-W, the price was $46.95.(silver spot was $13.97 to $17.52)
I would believe the 2025-W should go dark very soon, even at $91 a pop.(silver spot currently $33.12.)
Adding the issue price at release for the subject years:
2019 - $46.95
2020 - $54.00
2021 - $67.00
2022 - $67.00
2023 - $76.00
2024 - $76.00
2025 - $91.00
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There are a bunch of prior years available on the secondary, if that what you're asking?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=American+Eagle+One+Ounce+Silver+Uncirculated+Burnished+Coin&_sacat=0&_from=R40&rt=nc&Certification=Uncertified&_dcat=177653
Also, looking back in '08-09 - when I bought a few of these ⇊ they were $37.95ea for 6 $1 coins, with one of them being an ASE Burnished...
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Look at the 2024-W....only a matter of time before the 2025-W is gone.
Sure...a day...a week...a year. Just a matter of time.
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Lots of 2024-W Burnished still in stock.
The 2025-W Burnished, with a cap at 90k(for OGP) is getting thin. Give it "a matter of time", and it's a goner.
https://www.coinnews.net/2025/05/28/us-mint-sales-2025-w-uncirculated-silver-eagle-debuts-with-83941-sold/
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Does anyone know how many of these coins are still available from the Mint?
Mint shows 21,596.
http://ProofCollection.Net
Whew, lots left, I just might pick me up the 50% mark-up Palladium Eagle!
24 hours later Mint shows 21,157.....that's a whopping 439 ASE sold.
I might have to change my 'sold out' horizon to the end of summer if this slow sale trend continues. 🥱
Nah. At that pace, with all the new exciting stuff coming out, starting next week with the Army privy, these are not going to sell out at all. The only good news is that the mintage will be around 70K, not 90K. Plus whatever they sold in the 40 coin trays, which I believe does not go into the count.
Yes, sir.
The bulk trays get a separate item number (i.e., 25EG040 (bulk trays) vs. 25EG (individually packaged)).
As of the 5/26/25 report, the Mint had sold 308 trays (i.e., 12,320 coins in bulk packaging).
Source: https://www.usmint.gov/about/production-sales-figures/cumulative-sales
Looks like another overpriced, overproduced widget that will drift towards melt value over the years. I originally was set to suck up 2 of them but decided against it. Glad I held off. I can see PCGS First Strike 70’s selling for less than $100 in the coming months or years.
Thank you for this information! There is also seemingly no limit for the trays, correct?
Not sure about 2025, but some prior years have had 'product limits' on trays.
Found this example via google (i.e., search term = "American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin Bulk Tray").
Yep, Superman, Batman, & Wonder Woman all match wits against the Mighty Minters!! Then there's that Army privy...and the Morgan/Peace dollar RP set....
Thanks! I guess it really doesn't matter, given that they have 20K singles still available.
Totally agree! Although the superheroes are not exactly what I was thinking of. The military proofs, with limits of 100K on something they never did before, with far lower proof mintages than they usually have, are what I was thinking of.
75K 75th anniversary ASEs, are what I was thinking of. Those go for between $300-400 right now. 100K at $105 will be sell outs and winners. Probably taking some attention away from 90K burnished ASEs that they make every year.
11 hours later the new countdown......20,198.
959 ASE's sold.......that's a little more encouraging. 😎
edited to add: New Mint total....20,385......187 returns?? 😂
I'm sorry, but it's over. 25% of the total mintage remaining 2 weeks after the on sale date indicates it's not selling out. Not when the remaining number is in the tens of thousands, and when lots of other interesting, similar items will be coming down the pike, starting next week.
I always liked the burnished ASEs, and had high hopes for this one after they placed a reasonable mintage limit on it, and after seeing interest in the privy bullion versions. But having the bulk trays not count towards the mintage limit was a bit of a head fake that places actual total sales closer to the announced 90K mintage limit.
Given they still have 20K single coins available for sale, plus a theoretically unlimited number in 40 coin trays, these are done. They won't be selling 1K per week for the next 20 weeks. They will be sitting this time next year, just like the 2024s are today.
It is what it is. Time to move our attention to the Army privy proof next week.
walk, do not run, to buy a coin from those that are left
At this point there are 20,039 remaining.
Gonna be a long summer, especially with all the special ASE's coming up per @NJCoin.
Perhaps these sales will be a barometer for the Mint as far as supply versus demand at the price level. Looks like a mintage of 60k would have the flippers salivating....
Well, just Love coins, period.
Depends on the coin. For the burnished ASE, apparently not, since, even at that level, demand would barely exceed supply. OTOH, the military proofs look like winners at 100K.
It seems like people are interested in new product, like the FH and the bullion ASEs with privys, and are tired of the same old same old, like the burnished ASE. TBD, but I do have a feeling the Army privy is going to be a quick sell out, even with a higher mintage, higher price, and lower HHL as compared to the burnished ASE.
Uggh passing in all the privies now after the V75.
Let’s see how they do.
Well, just Love coins, period.
19,925 remain as of 6:06pm EST.
19,430 remain as of 8:30pm EST.
That's 495 ASE's sold in the past two days.
@NJCoin was right, too many other attractive Mint bullion issues on the horizon to consider this coin.
There could be nothing planned for the rest of the year and it still wouldn't sell out. It's not a popular offering. It takes them 2 or 3 years to sell out.
Not so sure about that, since 90K is around the number they sold last year, and is significantly below historic sales.
You might be right, because interest might simply be waning. But 500K bullion coins with a privy sold out, and retail at a premium, in 2025, so it's not crazy to have expected them to be able to sell 90K burnished ASEs at less than double the price the bullion privys go for.
That said, they did not sell 90K. It's not unreasonable to conclude that the issuance of 4, count 'em 4, proof ASEs with privys in the coming few months might have had something to do with that.
At $91 a pop + shipping I pass, esp. since 2022, 2023 and 2024 versions are still available.